Saturday, December 3, 2011

[fast5] Re: Looking for advice please

>>" 54, in generally excellent health, but 40 pounds overweight and
obviously this is my first health concern. I do take Synthroid daily
(at low levels – 50 and 75 mcg) and am interested in the recent
discussion about switching to natural. What my endocrinologist says
usually is that given that I alternate, one day on 50 mcg and one day
on 75, it might be trickier for me to switch to a generic brand of
Synthroid or another medication altogether. However, will bring it up
at my next appointment, now that I hear what's going on with people on
the list."<<

Your endo's response to you switching to a natural thyroid replacement
is a typical one. I was on Synthroid for 3 yrs. I NEVER felt all the
way normal on synthetics. He then decided to switch me to the generic
brand, Levoxyl. I kept asking him about natural replacements but he
wouldn't hear of it. He said they were too difficult to regulate and
didn't work good enough. Most doctors do try and persuade their
patients to NOT want to switch to a natural replacement. Not only is
about 89-98% of the research being done in med schools today funded by
big pharma, doctors also get a lot of kickbacks for prescribing certain
meds....Armour and other natural replacements are not included in those
kickbacks because they aren't owned by the big drug companies. They
can't patent natural...well, at least for now any way. Monsanto's hard
at work on that as I write, but that's a whole other rotten topic:-(

Any way, although I felt somewhat better on the synthetics, I did not
feel all the way normal until I found a doctor that would prescribe
Armour for me and there was NOTHING "tricky" about switching. Sorry
but, that's a bunch of hogwash;-) They just start you out at a low
dose, maybe about 30mgs, then check your symptoms and blood work and
raise your dose accordingly. Synthetic T4 only meds do NOT convert into
an adequate amount of T3, leaving you with symptoms that neither you OR
your uninformed doctor realize are related to inadequate treatment.
[Eliminating gluten was another key to healing my very sick thyroid.]

>>"The current rash I have is concentrated around my waist and
mid-torso. Has been itching for some months now (I forget how long),
and though I've tried hydro-cortisone cream applied topically, it
lessens the itch but doesn't seem to take it away or end the rash.

If anyone has ideas, I'd be grateful to hear them. I am not diabetic or
even pre-diabetic (I had the glucose tolerance test early this year -
the one that lasts for HOURS - and it showed very clearly that my blood
sugar was in the absolutely normal range.) So it shouldn't be that."<<

I am no expert but, from my experience and research most any form of
skin interruption, as in, acne, rashes, hives, psoriasis, and etc., is
just our body's way of detoxing. When your liver is over loaded, say,
from the loads of toxins we're subjected to these days or a poor diet,
it can't function properly, then, other organs can't function properly
as well and the body uses the skin as another form of detoxing.

Nancy


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[fast5] Re: Thyroid

"Were you gluten-free and was your thyroid balanced before you tried
Fast-5?"
 Amy


Hi Amy,
I've worked towards balancing my thyroid for many yrs. It wasn't until
I found Armour about 6-7 yrs ago that I finally found some real relief.
The final missing piece to my puzzle was finding out that gluten was at
the root of my health problems. Now I'm off gluten and going to try
fast 5, hopefully, help heal my digestion.

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Thursday, December 1, 2011

[fast5] Re: Breaking Plateau - Heather/ a bit OT

Thanks.. I will see if I can find Konjac at Super Supp.. tomorrow.

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> The bloating doesn't go away for everyone. Usually by the time people get
> diagnosed, their digestion is in pretty bad shape too. Fast-5 really helped
> me with that. The other thing that helped was konjac with meals. Konjac
> helps the bacteria in your gut produce butyrate, which is the stuff that
> keeps the gut happy (and helps prevent gut cancer). It also helps food
> digest more thoroughly. You can buy it online ... sometimes it's called
> "glucomannan", and it is also in PGX pills. It's pricey, but a little bit
> goes a long way. I take 1/4 tsp a day, often first thing in the morning to
> help buffer any pills I need to take.
>
> And yes, I DO wish I'd known this like 40 years ago. My life would have
> been far different.
>
>
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Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Re: [fast5] Re: Breaking Plateau - Heather/ a bit OT



The bloating doesn't go away for everyone. Usually by the time people get diagnosed, their digestion is in pretty bad shape too. Fast-5 really helped me with that. The other thing that helped was konjac with meals. Konjac helps the bacteria in your gut produce butyrate, which is the stuff that keeps the gut happy (and helps prevent gut cancer). It also helps food digest more thoroughly. You can buy it online ... sometimes it's called "glucomannan", and it is also in PGX pills. It's pricey, but a little bit goes a long way. I take 1/4 tsp a day, often first thing in the morning to help buffer any pills I need to take.


And yes, I DO wish I'd known this like 40 years ago. My life would have been far different.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM, beth_orsi <emocpa@yahoo.com> wrote:
My advice is to go gluten free b4 it's too late.  I've been gluten free for about 5 months and my horrible digestion symptoms have gone a way.  Although... it's too late for my thyroid.  It's completely dysfunctional at this point with no coming back.  When I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 10 years ago my tsh was 9.  Just recently I had my blood tested and it climbed to a tsh of 103.. showing my thyroid was no longer working.  and of course I had been having my digestion problems b4 I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's..  I can't help but think about how my health would be like today if I would have gone gluten free when I first had the digestive problems so long ago.  I've been working real hard at a new eating plan for life and exercise.  over the last year I've lost 30 lbs even with a dysfunctional thyroid.  I neglected to have my tsh tested for way too long.  while it's great that I still managed to lose 30 lbs.. I can't help but think of how much easier it would have been with a working thyroid or adequate thyroid hormone.  and I'm positive I would have felt much better.  I'm working on getting my thyroid hormone up to the max, (it must be done gradually) and I'm hoping to lose an additional 10 lbs and have my hair grow back.. :(.  my hair has thinned a bit at the part.  The other problem I've had is that even with a gluten free diet and being on a somewhat low carb diet I still have stomach bloating.. which I also hope to have go away once I'm able to be at the max thyroid hormone level.  I guess with a non functional thyroid you are not able to digest adequately.  What I've heard from others that have gone gluten free is that their stomach bloating goes away pretty quick.
 
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[fast5] Re: Looking for advice, please

Bless you for the long thoughtful answer, Heather! I love this group!

Will definitely try aloe. Should have thought of it earlier.

And will look at celiac.com to get more info. I'm thinking that having decided to do this -- I'm not brave enough to start during the holidays. Early January gives me time to prepare.

I talked to someone today about a test for gluten sensitivity. She says it's just a blood test. Will look for that too.

As for the rest, I will re-read your post several times and absorb the advice slowly. It's all good, and I know will help me.

Will be sure to let you know how it goes!

Susan

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> Well you've been through a lot, for sure! Congrats on coming through it all!
>
> I can't say for sure about your skin stuff, obviously. Some people who go
> gluten free do have amazing changes. For myself, I had a nerve cut in my
> jaw, due to some surgery I'd had a decade or more before. It made part of
> my face numb, which wasn't a huge deal and I didn't think about it too
> much. A year or so after I went GF though, the area started tingling and a
> lot of the nerves appear to have come back. I also stopped getting adult
> acne.
>
> As for scars on the skin ... The thing that I know helps me is raw aloe. I
> have a plant (several now: they multiply!) and I pick one leaf, then use
> pieces of that leaf for a week or so. Just slather it on. It's gooey, but
> it just sort of evaporates or soaks in and disappears. I had a 2nd degree
> burn on my wrist that wasn't healing ... I put the aloe on it, and by the
> next day it was partially healed and after a week it was *gone* with no
> scar at all. It seems to promote healing in the skin (and in the gut I
> guess: some people have it in smoothies).
>
> Vitamin K is said to be good too: it comes in a cream.
>
> For other grains: wheat/barley/rye are the "gluten" grains. Spelt and some
> of those "old versions" of wheat are still wheat, and give the same
> reaction. But corn, rice, soy, buckwheat, quinoa, millet, teff, etc ...
> they are ok. Oats are basically ok except that they are usually mixed with
> wheat in the field, so you have to buy special "gluten free oats".
>
> Many of the foods you buy though, have gluten sort of "snuck in" where you
> don't expect it. Like in sushi, surimi is made with wheat usually. Soy
> sauce has wheat. Many or most "chip" foods have wheat. So the good news is:
> if you go gluten-free, you won't eat nearly as much junk food!
>
> A lot of the newer "gluten free" brands of foods are also doing a better
> job of making "healthy snack", since they are aiming for the health-food
> crowd. Mary's Gone Crackers is a nice cracker (and you can take them with
> you to parties). There are a few versions of nut/fruit bars that are good,
> and Mrs. Mays' products are just really tasty (and healthy). There are
> decent gluten-free versions of pasta, bread, and cookies these days though,
> you just have to look for them. General Mills is making a whole line of
> foods gluten free (Gluten-free Bisquick, brownie mix, cakes, rice crispies,
> rice chex). I made an outstanding (if I do say so myself) cornbread stuffed
> goose for Thanksgiving.
>
> There is one caveat about going gluten free though. Some people go "mostly
> gluten free" and they feel better, and do fine, even though they don't
> bother with the little bits of gluten that are in soy sauce or beer. Other
> people have a kind of super-reaction ... after eating sandwiches and pasta
> for decades, suddenly, after they stop eating those foods, they start
> reacting to tiny amounts of the stuff. That hyperreactivity, for me, lasted
> about 3 years. It got so I had my daughter feed the chickens, because I was
> inhaling chicken feed and having a reaction. I don't seem to have that now,
> it went away. But for some people it sticks around. It is a very weird
> thing and made me feel a little crazy back then: no one was talking about
> "gluten" at all, and everyone thought I was just being a bit hypochondriac
> for avoiding it. But if I ate it, even a little bit of it, I got very, very
> sick for a few days.
>
> By husband and daughter though, mostly don't eat gluten (it's not allowed
> in the house, period, even for the cat). Small amounts though don't bother
> them. Large amounts, like, say, a plate of lasagna, make them stick to
> their stomach (my daughter just "tosses her cookies" so to speak :-)
>
> www.celiac.com has a ton of information about all this. The thinking these
> days is that "celiac" is just the tip of the iceberg, and there are a lot
> more people who react badly to wheat, but don't have celiac. They are
> designing tests to check for this. If you can get a celiac test, it's way
> better to get it, before going wheat-free. If you are in the 1% that really
> has classic celiac, it is way important to do stuff to heal the gut, but
> the tests will show negative if you aren't eating wheat.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Susan Sloate <susan@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello, all --
> >
> > I'm one of the lurkers on this list, but I read every post and am amazed
> > at the breadth of knowledge here - and your kindness in passing it on!
> >
> > I'm now back on Fast 5 after about 7 months off (my mistake) I gained
> > about 10 pounds! But my divorce had just been finalized, so I cut myself a
> > little slack.) Naturally I feel a million percent better on Fast 5 - and
> > last year got through all the holidays, from Thanksgiving to New Year's,
> > without going off once, and still thoroughly enjoyed the eating (and didn't
> > gain an ounce, which is a real feat during those weeks).
> >
> > I've been really learning from the recent posts about gluten and seriously
> > wondering whether I should go off it myself to see what kind of difference
> > there is. But I have a specific question I'm hoping someone can answer -
> > all your ideas are welcome:
> >
> > I'm 54, in generally excellent health, but 40 pounds overweight and
> > obviously this is my first health concern. I do take Synthroid daily (at
> > low levels – 50 and 75 mcg) and am interested in the recent discussion
> > about switching to natural. What my endocrinologist says usually is that
> > given that I alternate, one day on 50 mcg and one day on 75, it might be
> > trickier for me to switch to a generic brand of Synthroid or another
> > medication altogether. However, will bring it up at my next appointment,
> > now that I hear what's going on with people on the list.
> >
> > What troubles me, though, is that on my arms, legs and torso there are
> > lots of marks left over from rashes or skin issues that cropped up long ago
> > and generally went away, but the marks themselves remain. They don't itch,
> > aren't raised and aren't anything like skin tags; they're right IN my skin,
> > and are really nothing but souvenirs of skin issues I've had in the past.
> > They're not very pretty to look at, and obviously I'd like them to go away.
> >
> > They've had plenty of time to heal but have not disappeared.
> >
> > My question to you is: Could there be some nutrition-related thing that's
> > keeping them from disappearing, as they ordinarily should?
> >
> > The current rash I have is concentrated around my waist and mid-torso. Has
> > been itching for some months now (I forget how long), and though I've tried
> > hydro-cortisone cream applied topically, it lessens the itch but doesn't
> > seem to take it away or end the rash.
> >
> > If anyone has ideas, I'd be grateful to hear them. I am not diabetic or
> > even pre-diabetic (I had the glucose tolerance test early this year - the
> > one that lasts for HOURS - and it showed very clearly that my blood sugar
> > was in the absolutely normal range.) So it shouldn't be that.
> >
> > But if I'm eating something that's perpetuating this - and I eat HORRIBLY,
> > I'll be the first to tell you - I'm the world's worst junk-food junkie - so
> > would really appreciate your suggestions.
> >
> > It's very inspiring to read the stories here of people feeling so much
> > better just by doing Fast 5 and changing things in their diets and
> > supplements. I wonder if you realize how much help you're giving those of
> > us who are usually silent? I know for me, reading these posts is what keeps
> > me doing Fast 5, even if I have yet to get it right in terms of WHAT I eat
> > – at least the WHEN I eat part is being taken care of properly.
> >
> > Also, if we're going to go gluten free - can we eat other grains like rye,
> > or is that also a problem?? (And how about things like corn chips - does
> > that count as gluten free? A friend of mine cut out wheat but continued to
> > eat potatoes, rice and things like Fritos. Felt a million percent better,
> > and she had lots of health issues.)
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for your ideas ... looking forward to hearing from you!
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>


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[fast5] Re: Breaking Plateau - Heather/ a bit OT

My advice is to go gluten free b4 it's too late. I've been gluten free for about 5 months and my horrible digestion symptoms have gone a way. Although... it's too late for my thyroid. It's completely dysfunctional at this point with no coming back. When I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 10 years ago my tsh was 9. Just recently I had my blood tested and it climbed to a tsh of 103.. showing my thyroid was no longer working. and of course I had been having my digestion problems b4 I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's.. I can't help but think about how my health would be like today if I would have gone gluten free when I first had the digestive problems so long ago. I've been working real hard at a new eating plan for life and exercise. over the last year I've lost 30 lbs even with a dysfunctional thyroid. I neglected to have my tsh tested for way too long. while it's great that I still managed to lose 30 lbs.. I can't help but think of how much easier it would have been with a working thyroid or adequate thyroid hormone. and I'm positive I would have felt much better. I'm working on getting my thyroid hormone up to the max, (it must be done gradually) and I'm hoping to lose an additional 10 lbs and have my hair grow back.. :(. my hair has thinned a bit at the part. The other problem I've had is that even with a gluten free diet and being on a somewhat low carb diet I still have stomach bloating.. which I also hope to have go away once I'm able to be at the max thyroid hormone level. I guess with a non functional thyroid you are not able to digest adequately. What I've heard from others that have gone gluten free is that their stomach bloating goes away pretty quick.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "artofthefire" <bbarndogz@...> wrote:
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> >
> > I've given a lot of thought to whether this is "OT" or not ... I'm not sure
> > either. For those of us who have a major problem with gluten, gluten is
> > THEN dietary issue that messes us up. It's not the only issue, but it needs
> > to be said, because it is a problem for a lot of people and like you say,
> > it takes decades for it to be found (hopefully this is changing).
>
> I do think it's on topic here. When I think of the YEARS gluten has had a chance to destroy my body it makes me cringe. I'm thankful the word is getting out there so others don't have to go through the same frustrations.


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Well you've been through a lot, for sure! Congrats on coming through it all!


I can't say for sure about your skin stuff, obviously. Some people who go gluten free do have amazing changes. For myself, I had a nerve cut in my jaw, due to some surgery I'd had a decade or more before. It made part of my face numb, which wasn't a huge deal and I didn't think about it too much. A year or so after I went GF though, the area started tingling and a lot of the nerves appear to have come back. I also stopped getting adult acne.

As for scars on the skin ... The thing that I know helps me is raw aloe. I have a plant (several now: they multiply!) and I pick one leaf, then use pieces of that leaf for a week or so. Just slather it on. It's gooey, but it just sort of evaporates or soaks in and disappears. I had a 2nd degree burn on my wrist that wasn't healing ... I put the aloe on it, and by the next day it was partially healed and after a week it was *gone* with no scar at all. It seems to promote healing in the skin (and in the gut I guess: some people have it in smoothies).

Vitamin K is said to be good too: it comes in a cream.

For other grains: wheat/barley/rye are the "gluten" grains. Spelt and some of those "old versions" of wheat are still wheat, and give the same reaction. But corn, rice, soy, buckwheat, quinoa, millet, teff, etc ... they are ok. Oats are basically ok except that they are usually mixed with wheat in the field, so you have to buy special "gluten free oats".

Many of the foods you buy though, have gluten sort of "snuck in" where you don't expect it. Like in sushi, surimi is made with wheat usually. Soy sauce has wheat. Many or most "chip" foods have wheat. So the good news is: if you go gluten-free, you won't eat nearly as much junk food!

A lot of the newer "gluten free" brands of foods are also doing a better job of making "healthy snack", since they are aiming for the health-food crowd. Mary's Gone Crackers is a nice cracker (and you can take them with you to parties). There are a few versions of nut/fruit bars that are good, and Mrs. Mays' products are just really tasty (and healthy). There are decent gluten-free versions of pasta, bread, and cookies these days though, you just have to look for them. General Mills is making a whole line of foods gluten free (Gluten-free Bisquick, brownie mix, cakes, rice crispies, rice chex). I made an outstanding (if I do say so myself) cornbread stuffed goose for Thanksgiving.

There is one caveat about going gluten free though. Some people go "mostly gluten free" and they feel better, and do fine, even though they don't bother with the little bits of gluten that are in soy sauce or beer. Other people have a kind of super-reaction ... after eating sandwiches and pasta for decades, suddenly, after they stop eating those foods, they start reacting to tiny amounts of the stuff. That hyperreactivity, for me, lasted about 3 years. It got so I had my daughter feed the chickens, because I was inhaling chicken feed and having a reaction. I don't seem to have that now, it went away. But for some people it sticks around. It is a very weird thing and made me feel a little crazy back then: no one was talking about "gluten" at all, and everyone thought I was just being a bit hypochondriac for avoiding it. But if I ate it, even a little bit of it, I got very, very sick for a few days.

By husband and daughter though, mostly don't eat gluten (it's not allowed in the house, period, even for the cat). Small amounts though don't bother them. Large amounts, like, say, a plate of lasagna, make them stick to their stomach (my daughter just "tosses her cookies" so to speak :-) 

www.celiac.com has a ton of information about all this. The thinking these days is that "celiac" is just the tip of the iceberg, and there are a lot more people who react badly to wheat, but don't have celiac. They are designing tests to check for this. If you can get a celiac test, it's way better to get it, before going wheat-free. If you are in the 1% that really has classic celiac, it is way important to do stuff to heal the gut, but the tests will show negative if you aren't eating wheat.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Susan Sloate <susan@susansloate.com> wrote:
Hello, all --

I'm one of the lurkers on this list, but I read every post and am amazed at the breadth of knowledge here - and your kindness in passing it on!

I'm now back on Fast 5 after about 7 months off (my mistake) I gained about 10 pounds! But my divorce had just been finalized, so I cut myself a little slack.) Naturally I feel a million percent better on Fast 5 - and last year got through all the holidays, from Thanksgiving to New Year's, without going off once, and still thoroughly enjoyed the eating (and didn't gain an ounce, which is a real feat during those weeks).

I've been really learning from the recent posts about gluten and seriously wondering whether I should go off it myself to see what kind of difference there is. But I have a specific question I'm hoping someone can answer - all your ideas are welcome:

I'm 54, in generally excellent health, but 40 pounds overweight and obviously this is my first health concern. I do take Synthroid daily (at low levels – 50 and 75 mcg) and am interested in the recent discussion about switching to natural. What my endocrinologist says usually is that  given that I alternate, one day on 50 mcg and one day on 75, it might be trickier for me to switch to a generic brand of Synthroid or another medication altogether. However, will bring it up at my next appointment, now that I hear what's going on with people on the list.

What troubles me, though, is that on my arms, legs and torso there are lots of marks left over from rashes or skin issues that cropped up long ago and generally went away, but the marks themselves remain. They don't itch, aren't raised and aren't anything like skin tags; they're right IN my skin, and are really nothing but souvenirs of skin issues I've had in the past. They're not very pretty to look at, and obviously I'd like them to go away.

They've had plenty of time to heal but have not disappeared.

My question to you is: Could there be some nutrition-related thing that's keeping them from disappearing, as they ordinarily should?

The current rash I have is concentrated around my waist and mid-torso. Has been itching for some months now (I forget how long), and though I've tried hydro-cortisone cream applied topically, it lessens the itch but doesn't seem to take it away or end the rash.

If anyone has ideas, I'd be grateful to hear them. I am not diabetic or even pre-diabetic (I had the glucose tolerance test early this year - the one that lasts for HOURS - and it showed very clearly that my blood sugar was in the absolutely normal range.) So it shouldn't be that.

But if I'm eating something that's perpetuating this - and I eat HORRIBLY, I'll be the first to tell you - I'm the world's worst junk-food junkie - so would really appreciate your suggestions.

It's very inspiring to read the stories here of people feeling so much better just by doing Fast 5 and changing things in their diets and supplements. I wonder if you realize how much help you're giving those of us who are usually silent? I know for me, reading these posts is what keeps me doing Fast 5, even if I have yet to get it right in terms of WHAT I eat – at least the WHEN I eat part is being taken care of properly.

Also, if we're going to go gluten free - can we eat other grains like rye, or is that also a problem?? (And how about things like corn chips - does that count as gluten free? A friend of mine cut out wheat but continued to eat potatoes, rice and things like Fritos. Felt a million percent better, and she had lots of health issues.)

Thanks to everyone for your ideas ... looking forward to hearing from you!

Susan


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