Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle

Monday, April 4, 2011

Re: [fast5] Re: Invitation

One hint I learned from the Warrior Diet (which is similar in practice, though not in philosophy!). Eating RAW fruits and vegies really doesn't affect your insulin so much. So if you are "in a group" where eating seems socially mandatory (and you don't want to discuss "religion" :-) ... eat raw fruits and vegies. There are usually plates of broccoli, celery, etc. at these gigs, and salads. Plates of shrimp even. People may assume you are "on a diet", but usually they are too polite to ask. (depends on your relatives!). It's probably over 5 calories, but it won't upset your system or throw off your weight loss, in my experience. Do try to avoid the "dip" though ... that stuff is bad on several levels, or salads with mayo-looking stuff on them.

Another trick, for social events where "drinking" seems mandatory: tip the bar person well, and have them serve you a series of fizz waters in nice "cocktail" glasses, with a twist of lemon or a few olives or whatever. I actually love fizz water with a twist of lemon anyway, but that makes it look like I'm "drinking". I actually learned this from an old family story. A relative was in a rather high-pressure job, where finding out stuff from the opponent was a good thing to do. At parties, they served LOTS of liquor, esp. when he was host! But he himself didn't drink: he went around with a cocktail glass, always, but it was filled with a "mocktail". It is a very good thing to make the barkeep your friend ... you can just plop down your glass and say "another round! And one for my pal here!" and they'll remember what you are "drinking".

(And if you are into industrial espionage or finding out family secrets, just act a little loopy while you are doing it. It is really amazing how forthcoming people are when they are a few sheets to the wind, and you are not).

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:09 PM, foxchyck <foxeye@jungle-fire.com> wrote:

Heh, isn't it just? Lately when people ask me what I'm doing that has made me lose so much weight, I often reply with some variation of "Sorry, I don't like to discuss religion". *chuckle*

I'm going to a family event in a few days, and I am absolutely terrified that it won't be easy to slip under their radar and keep eating the way that I am happiest with. *cross fingers*

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> That's a good term, "food evangelism".

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[fast5] Re: Invitation

Heh, isn't it just? Lately when people ask me what I'm doing that has made me lose so much weight, I often reply with some variation of "Sorry, I don't like to discuss religion". *chuckle*

I'm going to a family event in a few days, and I am absolutely terrified that it won't be easy to slip under their radar and keep eating the way that I am happiest with. *cross fingers*

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> That's a good term, "food evangelism".

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[fast5] Re: Appetstat

Heather's post about appestat reminded me of a quote from Dr. Bert that I found at the Fast-5 site. Here's the link: www.fast-5.com/content/hams-progress-report-and-success-story#comment-621

This little gem was buried in someone's thread and was just too good not to share!

(Dr. Bert's response to a person who was worried that they weren't eating enough calories.)

Dated 3/15/2011:

Title:
Let your "appestat" count the calories

"One of the many reasons the Fast-5 way of eating has been successful for many people is that the extended interval between eating gives the body a chance to measure how much energy it has stored in the form of fat and adjust the appetite accordingly, much like a thermostat gauging the temperature -- such that some people call it the "appestat."
It sounds like that is happening now for you. Your body is realizing you are carrying an excess reserve of energy (fat/fuel) of over 300,000 calories. It is using that fuel now and telling you that you don't need to eat as much as you think you do. You can trust your appetite -- it's worked for millions of years for animals and hundreds of thousands of years for humans, making sure we eat enough to survive. It's dealt with famines and sporadic food supplies, but until recently, it never had to deal with people eating an excess of food three times a day.

You're giving your body the chance to work like it should. It will take time -- a pound per week is a good, steady pace. Faster loss than that is fine, but consider anything above a pound per week to be icing on the cake.

Best wishes to you for your success."

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:

> Paying more attention to my appestat, and to what I WANT to eat,
> and to what truly tastes good, makes all the difference for me. Actually
> tracking food is probably a good thing for many people, and it
> sure appeals to the scientist in me. Doesn't work well for us
> to get easily obsessed with numbers though!

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[fast5] Re: Is diet soda slowing me down?

I think the keys words here are "CAN be". I know that for me, I wouldn't have made it in my early weeks without my Lime Diet Coke before my window opened. I think it's an individual thing whether or not limbic hunger is stimulated. Of course, I need to note that I've never had more than one or two 12 oz. cans in a day. I drink LOTS of regular water in addition to the flavored calorie-free water I drink throughout the day.

Recently, I bought a glucometer because I was curious as to whether I would have an insulin response to the artificial sweetener in my soda when in a fasted state. There was none. No spike at all. I've also noticed that, for me, I've felt no increase in appetite after drinking the soda, but instead an actual decrease in my appetite. That's just me, though. My experiment of one.

Now that I'm into my 13th week, I find that I'm naturally drinking diet soda less and less...but that doesn't mean I'm giving it up completely, unless my tastes change. Personally, I think there is too much hype about diet soda and the seemingly endless list of everything else that is supposedly "bad" for you. I prefer to travel my own path of moderation. Everyone knows themselves best and should do what feels best for their own bodies.

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[fast5] Re: Is diet soda slowing me down?

I find that salty food makes me crave sweet drinks.
It helps me to eat less salt, then I don't need the sweet drinks.

Restaurant food is usually too salty for me, I use less salt when I cook at home.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Lovellsjl@... wrote:
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> From what I have read both caffeine and artificial sweeteners in excess can be appetite stimulants. I think if you are drinking a lot of diet soda it could be slowing down your weight loss. Try drinking a lot of water instead and taking walks also helps suppress the appetite naturally.
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> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...>
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 4:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Is diet soda slowing me down?
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> Well, 2 lbs is just a little below one pound a week, which is generally a good rate.
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> Keep in mind that when you lose "weight", you ideally want most of the weight lost
> to be fat. Fat doesn't actually weigh very much: it's like styrofoam for the
> body. A lot of what you see on the scale during "weight loss" is the water
> that is lost along with the fat.
>
>
> It can take 5 weeks or so for the body to adjust to a new way of eating too,
> at which point your appestat will change, and you'll start wanting to eat
> differently probably. You may find you really don't want or need the diet
> sodas even. I used to drink a LOT of diet sodas, but these days I can't
> stand them, and neither can my family (we had to toss out like half
> a case of them that had been in the cupboard for years).
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>
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> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rhonda <rbarrett1968@...> wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> This is my 3rd week doing Fast 5 and not noticing a whole lot of weightloss.I have lost 2 lbs so far and that is good but is it supposed to be that slow? Could it be the diet soda I am drinking outside my window?
>
> I don't follow any certain diet during my window,just eat whatever I want and make sure I stop when I am full but not stuffed.
>
> Does it take a while before your body starts dropping weight?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rhonda
>

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Sunday, April 3, 2011

Re: [fast5] Re: Invitation

I agree they provide a good service, and I've used them occasionally. Their

main service though, is calorie-counting, and I'm not sure how I feel about

that. When I get into counting calories, I tend to get obsessive about it

and stop paying attention to the food itself. I went for years drinking

protein drinks and making shakes and all that for the sake of

"calories", and also obsessing over the number on the scale. I did

get very skinny! But too skinny, I think now. And I was not healthy.

My skin and hair were dry, I had rosacea, I had very little saliva or

tears, was cold all the time, weak fingernails, and my teeth were

sort of looser in my mouth. Also I HAD to eat every 3 hours or I

got weak and woozy.

These days I'm 20 years older, and not that skinny, but way, way

healthier. My skin and nails are in great shape, even though I do

gardening and wash dishes a lot and don't use hand cream. My

joints are better. And I'm the only person in the family to NOT

have osteoporosis (my Dexa scores show nice strong bones) or

low thyroid, and my cholesterol etc. is better.

Paying more attention to my appestat, and to what I WANT to eat,

and to what truly tastes good, makes all the difference for me. Actually

tracking food is probably a good thing for many people, and it

sure appeals to the scientist in me. Doesn't work well for us

to get easily obsessed with numbers though!

If Sparkpeople works for you, it makes sense to use it. Different

people really do need different things.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Sam <samdgood@yahoo.com> wrote:

you said "Personally too, I dislike Sparkpeople because of all

the ads, and their emphasis on certain kinds of foods"

i would like to say, i have checked out a few sites that i could join that are similar. they wanted me to pay or they have ads on them. i checked out spark people because of the post here and i really like it. i don't pay attn to the ads because i know they are the reason the site is free to me. i'm not trying to change your mind, just wanted to give my opinion. which is that spark people is a great site with easy to use trackers, lots of support, great motivational tools, etc.

i love fast 5 and one important thing i love about it is the flexibility. i choose my window and i choose the foods i eat. i enjoy reading about others ideas and opinions which makes this a good group.

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Re: [fast5] Is diet soda slowing me down?

From what I have read both caffeine and artificial sweeteners in excess can be appetite stimulants. I think if you are drinking a lot of diet soda it could be slowing down your weight loss. Try drinking a lot of water instead and taking walks also helps suppress the appetite naturally.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: [fast5] Is diet soda slowing me down?

Well, 2 lbs is just a little below one pound a week, which is generally a good rate.

Keep in mind that when you lose "weight", you ideally want most of the weight lost

to be fat. Fat doesn't actually weigh very much: it's like styrofoam for the

body. A lot of what you see on the scale during "weight loss" is the water

that is lost along with the fat.

It can take 5 weeks or so for the body to adjust to a new way of eating too,

at which point your appestat will change, and you'll start wanting to eat

differently probably. You may find you really don't want or need the diet

sodas even. I used to drink a LOT of diet sodas, but these days I can't

stand them, and neither can my family (we had to toss out like half

a case of them that had been in the cupboard for years).

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rhonda <rbarrett1968@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi!

This is my 3rd week doing Fast 5 and not noticing a whole lot of weightloss.I have lost 2 lbs so far and that is good but is it supposed to be that slow? Could it be the diet soda I am drinking outside my window?

I don't follow any certain diet during my window,just eat whatever I want and make sure I stop when I am full but not stuffed.

Does it take a while before your body starts dropping weight?

Thanks!

Rhonda

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