Saturday, May 1, 2010

RE: [fast5] Re: How do you know...



YES – that is great. Then I would just go by how you feel and how you look to yourself. If you are happy with your size why worry about weight. I think you said you want to get down to a size 30” waist pants. I think that’s a great goal.

 

Are you familiar with Dr. Harris’ blog www.palenu.com?

 

From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RickS
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:37 AM
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Hi K-

That's probably a good idea, me thinks. And you make a good point that muscle weighs more than fat. My problem is that I've never been this light in the last 30 years so I really have NO clothes to go by! :) Awesome, right? ;)

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kristina Carlton" <kristina.carlton@...> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
>
>
> I would ignore the scale for the simple fact that by volume muscle weighs
> more than fat. The scale could go up from muscle gain but your clothes might
> fit better because pound for pound muscle just takes up less space. Go by
> how you feel, how you look, and how your clothes fit. As long as my jeans
> fit the way I want them to and I am as lean as I want to be (which I am not
> yet) I don't care what the scale says. Initially when you have a bit more to
> lose like you did I think weighing yourself can be a good gauge, but when
> you get as close as you are now I think the scale can be deceiving. I have
> weighed 138 lbs and I have weighed 132 lbs and my clothes fit the same. I
> much prefer fitting into my clothes at the higher weight because to me that
> means I am leaner. J
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Kristina

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[fast5] Re: How do you know...

OK, I have to share something that just happened. My wife has been constantly saying that maybe I shouldn't get "too thin", and that was one of the reasons I started this post. But she just came into my office and said, "You know I've been thinking... I think you look MUCH better like this than you did when you had big arms and big legs and could bench 315lbs."

WooHoo! Success!!

Rick Stewart
The happy skinny guy

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[fast5] Re: I recently realised...

I LOVE this post! It's so nice to see F5 give someone not only health and a better body, but also peace of mind. This is the main reason why I'll likely eat this way for the rest of my life. Go Kirsten!

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten" <wildduck@...> wrote:
>
> ... that I have not been this relaxed about eating since before my first diet 20 years ago. Before Fast5/intermittant fasting, I binged, I restricted, I counted calories, I weighed myself twice daily, I thought about little else etc etc all the negative stuff dieting brings. Now I eat whatever I want, however much I want and thoroughly enjoy it. I don't think much about food beyond preparing a nice meal every evening (and dessert every evening too!) I feel freed. I don't weigh myself any more. I don't know if I've lost or gained and don't *really* care (at one point a couple of months ago I did try to actively lose weight but my heart just wasn't in it and I'm reasonably lightweight anyway so I quit). I feel little hunger during the day. I can't quite remember when I began Fast5/IF but I do remember I was doing it at Christmas so that's at least 4 months now. (I do a one-meal-a-day variant in a 1-2 hour window.) And I *love* enjoying my food and then thinking "good, that's me fed for the next 24 hours!" :) I love not having to worry about breakfast/lunch/snacks/when will I get a chance to feed myself tomorrow/what will I eat.
>
> Just wanted to share!
>
> Just put a lovely pork/root veg stew in the oven and have choc fudge cake & vanilla ice cream ready for afters. Really looking forward to it.
>
> /Kirsten
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[fast5] Re: How do you know...

Hi K-

That's probably a good idea, me thinks. And you make a good point that muscle weighs more than fat. My problem is that I've never been this light in the last 30 years so I really have NO clothes to go by! :) Awesome, right? ;)

-Rick


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kristina Carlton" <kristina.carlton@...> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
>
>
> I would ignore the scale for the simple fact that by volume muscle weighs
> more than fat. The scale could go up from muscle gain but your clothes might
> fit better because pound for pound muscle just takes up less space. Go by
> how you feel, how you look, and how your clothes fit. As long as my jeans
> fit the way I want them to and I am as lean as I want to be (which I am not
> yet) I don't care what the scale says. Initially when you have a bit more to
> lose like you did I think weighing yourself can be a good gauge, but when
> you get as close as you are now I think the scale can be deceiving. I have
> weighed 138 lbs and I have weighed 132 lbs and my clothes fit the same. I
> much prefer fitting into my clothes at the higher weight because to me that
> means I am leaner. J
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Kristina


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[fast5] Re: How do you know...

F5V-

My weight loss has not slowed one bit. It's been pretty fast and steady, which is why I feel like I need to moderate my loss at some point and figure out when enough is enough. The only time my loss slows is when I eat rice or whole grains. So my carb consumption is limited at this point to fruits, vegetables, and tubers.

Wow, thanks for the reminder of the goal weights in the F5 book. It says that I should be 106+ 6lbs for every inch over 5 feet. That would put me at 166lbs. That means I'm AT goal weight for being healthy. Though my BMI is just at the top end of the healthy spectrum (24.7) and most doctors charts say I could still stand to lose 5-10 more.

Like I said though, the weight is just falling off so I'm thrilled to actually see if I can get into the middle of the BMI scale and be right in the middle of the doctor's weight/height charts. I've NEVER been able to do this before and Fast-5 is making it possible. Yay Dr Bert!

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, fast5vegan <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a lot of the same questions, so thanks for posting them! I think my ideal weight is probably about 12 pounds away, but these last pounds are a lot harder to take off than the first 30. Has your weight loss slowed? Are you going by the recommendations in the book for your target weight? Looking forward to hearing your progress. Your posts are always really informative and helpful. Thanks for that.
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "RickS" <rstewart@> wrote:
> >
> > when you've reached your perfect weight?
> >
> > I'm at a loss and never had to explore this before. I'm down from 204lbs to 166lbs at 5'10". My goal has been to get to about 160 and wear 30" pants. But I'm afraid the mindset that got me to this weight won't want to stop at 160. I guess I'll know once I get to 160. It was so exciting to hit 189, then 179, then 169. Why not 159?? I know plenty of guys who are my height and weigh between 155 and 160. The other thought is to ignore the scale and just get down to a weight that looks and feels healthy. But then there's always a pocket of adipose here or there that should go away and without a number I'm sort of at a loss to know when to stop. Height/weight charts say I should be 151-163 so that's what I'll go by.
> >
> > I guess the biggest issue is the amount of resistance I'm getting from other people!! So many folks think I'm getting too small and so I just hear all day long, "You're not going to get any smaller are you?" I'm not emaciated and I can't see my lower abs in the mirror yet so I'm going to keep going until I hit 159-160 or until I can see my lower abs.
> >
> > Any words of advice ??
> >
> > -Rick Stewart
> >
>


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[fast5] Re: How do you know...

Thanks Jennifer-

Currently planks are a "core" part of my training regimen. :) Usually three sets of a minute to a minute and a half. I do pullups, pushups, handstands, and planks. And I commute 150-200 miles per week on my bike. AND I walk for an hour each day at lunch. What else does one do with an hour or free time every day? ;) And virtually all of these shenanigans are done in a fasted state. Funny I'm never hungry until I eat. :)

-Rick


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, gremlinpugs <gremlinpugs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rick
>
> I am a little late to the show as you have been given some great advise already. Congratulations on all that you have already achieved. Way to go!
>
> Basically, how you feel and fit into your clothes is a good gauge of whether you are at weight or not. If you feel fit, healthy, happy and your clothes are fitting the way you want, then you are probably right were you need to be weight wise. On the other hand, if you really need some numbers and want to spend the money, get a fitness profile done. I get one monthly as it is included as part of my gym membership.
>
> Basically, the profile shows you body fat versus lean muscle mass, flexibility, BMR, BMI, and other important factors that make up a healthy person. In my case, the profile compares me to all women in my age group and some other factors. The lower you body fat and higher your lean muscle the healthier you tend to be. But becareful not to go anorexic.
>
> Once you lose the right amount of body fat, you will have extra skin because it was stretched. A lot of people go to plastic surgeons to get that extra skin removed (a belly tuck he he he). At any rate, you can also try just toning up your muscle. This doesn't mean heavy weight lifting. It can be done doing martial arts, sports, aerobic activity, fixing up your house, walking the dog, etc. Toning and building those abs you want doesn't necessarily mean doing a lot of weight lifting and crunches any more.
>
> One of the exercises I use for my ABS is called the plank. You probably know about this. There are different plank position each geared to working your abs, lower and upper, glutes, lower back, etc. You would think just lying on the floor holding your body in position would be easy, well it is not. You are suppose to hold each position for one minute. I am still working on getting past 3 sets of 30 seconds each. Yet I am seeing some results. I also do a lot of cardio and other toning exercises.
>
> Some weight lifting is useful, but light weights with lots of repetition. This is what tones the body and creates the shapes. you only need the heavier stuff if you want to bulk up and build more muscle.
>
> Hope this helps. Keep up the great work. I hope to get there one day.
>
> Sincerely
> Jennifer Lupo, D.M.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: RickS <rstewart@...>
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 3:18:05 PM
> Subject: [fast5] Re: How do you know...
>
>
> I like your point about buying new clothes and inventing a new look. I'm waiting until I can comfortably fit in a 30" waist before I buy any new pants.
>
> Bruce Lee has always been a personal hero of mine. He was incredibly powerful, but in a very compact package. And I want that Brad Pitt midsection from Fight Club. That's the look I'm going for. I don't want to look big anymore. I just want to be a healthy and strong me.
>
> I've spent most of my adult life TRYING to look bigger through weight lifting. But I've reached a point lately where I've really internalized the fact that that mentality is sold to us by marketers trying to sell supplements. I've lived almost 44 years and have never been in a fight. At some point a man needs to put his defenses down and realize that most people are good and most are not looking for a fight. Why be so big? I guess I'm just questioning the nature of perception and why people perceive each other in certain ways.
>
> Yup, my window is coming up soon, can you tell? :)
>
> -Rick
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups. com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I'd go by how you feel, and how fit you are. Your body has an inner meter
> > for how big it wants to be. It can "tweak" your appetite and your metabolism
> > to reach that weight. Eating many meals, it wanted to be bigger. Now it
> > wants to be smaller.
> >
> > If you eat more food, what will happen? My guess is one of the following:
> >
> > 1. The meter will go back to wanting to be your old weight, and you will be
> > 204. OR
> > 2. Or, you will be stuck counting calories to get to some arbitrary weight
> > you decide you ought to be.
> >
> > If you eat more than what you feel like eating, you will be uncomfortable.
> > And the extra calories will likely just be fat.
> >
> > So, if you really want to "weigh more", you can probably do that by working
> > out. Guys can gain a fair bit of extra muscle. I'm not sure that the extra
> > muscle does more than make one look bigger though. You can get really strong
> > without the bloated muscles. Monkeys and chimps are way stronger than men,
> > and they look skinny.
> >
> > As for the pockets of adipose tissue: your body uses them. Getting rid of
> > all of them isn't healthy at all. Doing hard workouts does get rid of many
> > of them or at least hides them though: the people I know who joined
> > competitive swimming clubs look real good in their suits!
> >
> > If you feel you "look small" though, I'd look into your clothing choices.
> > Roosters and lions make themselves look big by adding a big ruff of feathers
> > or fur: so do male humans in many cultures. My kids always "grow a year"
> > when I buy them new clothes to replace the ones they grew out of.
> >
> > If you look at male fashions, you'll see that historically, a lot of the
> > clothing is about making the guy look bigger. The typical American clothing
> > that is popular right now, a tee shirt over jeans, shows off one's abs but
> > also makes a person look smaller.
> >
> > But a nice sports jacket makes any guy look wider in the shoulders and also
> > way more classy (even when it's worn over a tee shirt, and with jeans!).
> > Hats do amazing things too. Hey, you got a nice bod now, show it off! You
> > probably need a new wardrobe now anyway, with all that fat gone. So go to a
> > nice store that has people to give you advice, and try on some good clothes.
> > Get "a look" that is one class up from where you feel comfortable. Chances
> > are people will stop saying "you are so skinny" and start saying "Wow. You
> > look great!".
>


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Re: [fast5] Re: Hey! I'm new!



Hey patricia. Not a problem. I actually keep a food journal (old habits). As soon as I get a chance, I will pull a few days out for you. Note I follow a pretty healthy food choice. Lots of fruits and veggies. No real dairy and limited animal proteins.

I don't like meat, dairy tends to make me sick so that leaves fish, fruit, veggies, whole grains, etc. :)

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From: "patricia_59@ymail.com" <patricia_59@ymail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:58:50 -0000
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Subject: [fast5] Re: Hey! I'm new!

 

Hey Jennifer! Nope my Doctor is old school!!He lives this lifestyle except his window is much smaller, he usually eats one meal at night and not that much either!!! He's doctor dragon breath! LOL!! I have lost 1.5 pounds as of this morning, so that's good!! I am however a little concerned about the eating window, I'm pushing the time to 5to 10 gradually. I seem to be fine eating a decent meal but really hesitate to eat later on in my window even if I feel hungry. If you have the time I would love to see a sample menu that you ate. I'm keeping track of my calories and the last 3 days have been between 1100 and today was the highest at about 1400. Thank you!

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, gremlinpugs <gremlinpugs@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Patricia, Welcome. I found if I use fresh ground cinnamon in the coffee it is pretty good. Cinnamon is good for blood pressure and your heart too. Not too much though, less than 1 teaspoon in order to avoid the calorie thing. :)
>
> You must have a relatively new doctor. I have one of the "old guard", believes in the six small meals/day. Made me go see a nutritionist and dietitian. Didn't do me much good as I still wasn't losing any weight or anything. Once I started fast-5 (about 1 full month now) I lost 10 lbs and 2 inches on my waist (current measurement). YIPPEEEE!
>
> Looking forward to hearing about your progress.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Jennifer Lupo, D.M.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "patricia_59@..." <patricia_59@...>
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 8:48:53 PM
> Subject: [fast5] Hey! I'm new!
>
>
> Just joinned yesterday and started my fast-5 last night at 10pm. I read the book today and am pretty familliar as my doc advocates this type of eating for overweight patients. He however allows no carbs during the day so a coffee with cream that I had this morning, which was the only thing I ate/drank, would have been allright with him, but not according to the Fast-5. Lessoned learned...tomorrow black coffee....ugg. I look forward to sharing my experiences and reading about yours......Patricia ..
>



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