Monday, December 5, 2011

Re: [fast5] Re: Breaking Plateau - Heather/ a bit OT



PGX is really convenient, and easy to find. I don't know that a person needs all that much konjac ... the PGX people are marketing it as a "weight loss tool" which, well, maybe it can help, but I don't think that is the main use for it. Esp. when a person is doing Fast-5. 


The konjac powder plain is cheaper, per dose, but it is more work to deal with. If you are comfortable with filling gel-caps (it is easy, actually) then you can make your own caps, or mix it with food or water. 

Anyway, I've done both, depending on the need. Kinda like the difference between "loose tea" and "tea bags".

Now, for the true DIYers ... I got my first konjac corm, to plant next spring! Grow your own! The plant itself is really an interesting plant, and said to be easy to grow.



On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:07 AM, beth_orsi <emocpa@yahoo.com> wrote:
great recommendation Heather!!  I've been taking just 1 PGX Ultra Matrix Plus,(includes an herbal blend and coconut oil) before breakfast, (at 3:00 p.m.) and I'm very happy with the improvements in my digestion and bloating.  It says to build up to the recommended dose of 3-6 soft gels per meal... but I don't know... I think if I continue to have good results... I'll stick to the one soft gel, maybe 2.

Thanks again... hope others will try it also!

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> Thanks.. I will see if I can find Konjac at Super Supp.. tomorrow.
>




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Re: [fast5] Re: Question about konjac



Here is one way to look at it: Konjac kind of "wraps up" whatever is eaten with it. However, the konjac itself is digested. So whatever it has wrapped up, will be digested too. Something similar happens when you take sups with food, esp. greasy food.


It doesn't hurt anything to take konjac twice a day either. If a person has stomach problems, I'd recommend it. I was having issues with ulcers ... the gastro found them during an endoscope, but didn't actually prescribe anything for the ulcers ... except prilosec, which I don't agree with as a cure for ulcers. Anyway, I had read that konjac kills h-pylori so that's about when I started taking konjac with each meal. Seems to have worked, at least, I don't have stomach issues anymore (How can one tell if the ulcers go away? I didn't know I had them to begin with, but I was having some stomach pain on occasion, now I don't).

Anyway, I didn't get any issues at all with taking konjac more often. I don't think there is any downside risk to experimenting with it. It's a bit expensive, but a very small quantity is used at one time (I think one tsp. makes a package of konjac noodles: it is very concentrated).


On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Nancy <bbarndogz@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for your response Heather. I was thinking along that line concerning konjac and asorbtion...that it might just stretch digestion out, which, sure sounded good to me. I was a bit concerned about sups and meds though. Armour is taken on an empty stomach any way, but most of the sups I take are with food. Makes sense to me (& also a lot easier) to just be able to take konjac with my sups instead of food...from a Fast 5 stand point and also the fact that I'm up by 6am and never feel hungry in the morning until around 10 or 11 any way.

Thanks again,
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[fast5] Re: Looking for advice please

I agree Armour is excellent. I used it for about 7 years and it kept my tsh low as in below 1. I have Hashimoto's.. and it looks like my antibodies attacked my thyroid full board. When my thyroid gave out on me altogether recently and my tsh went up to 103!! :( my doctor refused to let me stay on Armour. He switched me to Levoxyl at 100 mg. In one more week I'll go up to 200 mg. I'm thinking once my tsh is at normal.. I will ask to go back to Armour and if he doesn't allow it... I will just have to find another doc.

Synthroid, (Levothyroxine) is T4 only and I know some have found great benefits (including myself) of adding T3. Armour has both T4 and T3. If you are on Levothyroxine, you could add T3 with the drug called Cytomel. I know of some that actually take both Cytomel and Armour with great results. For me, when I was on Armour and Cytomel my tsh went down way to low, so I was actually hyperthyroid. I think I will ask if I can add Cytomel to the Levothyroxine until I'm able to go back to Armour again.

RE: gluten free... YES if your thyroid is sick at ALL... try gluten free. I had a friend suggest this about 4 years ago... MAN do I wish I would have taken that advice!! I guess the ingestion of wheat will increase these antibodies that attack the thyroid. I've been gluten free for the past 5 months and it sure has help with my over all health... although it's too late for my thyroid. When it's gone... it's gone for good.

RE: weight loss... I was able to lose 30 lbs over the past year... even with a non functioning thyroid. I plan on losing another 10 lbs... and I'm fine with losing it very slow and stable with fast 5.. because the goal of course is to be a total of 40 lbs lighter for the rest of my life. I lost the first 30lbs through diet, (low carb and now gluten free) and exercise, (mainly strength training) With fast 5 I feel as though I can add back some carbs that I really miss.. like rice, fruit and potatoes. This has been great... I can't believe how much I enjoy my meals.. (I usually have one large meal at breakfast and a smaller meal b4 my eating window closes).. I have been losing only a half a pound a week and some weeks nothing. I'm hoping once I get my thyroid levels in order to lose more like a lb a week. I'm just happy to not be gaining at this point, especially through the holidays.


>
> Your endo's response to you switching to a natural thyroid replacement
> is a typical one. I was on Synthroid for 3 yrs. I NEVER felt all the
> way normal on synthetics. He then decided to switch me to the generic
> brand, Levoxyl. I kept asking him about natural replacements but he
> wouldn't hear of it. He said they were too difficult to regulate and
> didn't work good enough. Most doctors do try and persuade their
> patients to NOT want to switch to a natural replacement. Not only is
> about 89-98% of the research being done in med schools today funded by
> big pharma, doctors also get a lot of kickbacks for prescribing certain
> meds....Armour and other natural replacements are not included in those
> kickbacks because they aren't owned by the big drug companies. They
> can't patent natural...well, at least for now any way. Monsanto's hard
> at work on that as I write, but that's a whole other rotten topic:-(
>
> Any way, although I felt somewhat better on the synthetics, I did not
> feel all the way normal until I found a doctor that would prescribe
> Armour for me and there was NOTHING "tricky" about switching. Sorry
> but, that's a bunch of hogwash;-) They just start you out at a low
> dose, maybe about 30mgs, then check your symptoms and blood work and
> raise your dose accordingly. Synthetic T4 only meds do NOT convert into
> an adequate amount of T3, leaving you with symptoms that neither you OR
> your uninformed doctor realize are related to inadequate treatment.
> [Eliminating gluten was another key to healing my very sick thyroid.]
>
> >>"The current rash I have is concentrated around my waist and
> mid-torso. Has been itching for some months now (I forget how long),
> and though I've tried hydro-cortisone cream applied topically, it
> lessens the itch but doesn't seem to take it away or end the rash.
>
> If anyone has ideas, I'd be grateful to hear them. I am not diabetic or
> even pre-diabetic (I had the glucose tolerance test early this year -
> the one that lasts for HOURS - and it showed very clearly that my blood
> sugar was in the absolutely normal range.) So it shouldn't be that."<<
>
> I am no expert but, from my experience and research most any form of
> skin interruption, as in, acne, rashes, hives, psoriasis, and etc., is
> just our body's way of detoxing. When your liver is over loaded, say,
> from the loads of toxins we're subjected to these days or a poor diet,
> it can't function properly, then, other organs can't function properly
> as well and the body uses the skin as another form of detoxing.
>
> Nancy
>


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[fast5] Re: Breaking Plateau - Heather/ a bit OT

great recommendation Heather!! I've been taking just 1 PGX Ultra Matrix Plus,(includes an herbal blend and coconut oil) before breakfast, (at 3:00 p.m.) and I'm very happy with the improvements in my digestion and bloating. It says to build up to the recommended dose of 3-6 soft gels per meal... but I don't know... I think if I continue to have good results... I'll stick to the one soft gel, maybe 2.

Thanks again... hope others will try it also!

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> Thanks.. I will see if I can find Konjac at Super Supp.. tomorrow.
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[fast5] Re: Question about konjac

Thanks for your response Heather. I was thinking along that line concerning konjac and asorbtion...that it might just stretch digestion out, which, sure sounded good to me. I was a bit concerned about sups and meds though. Armour is taken on an empty stomach any way, but most of the sups I take are with food. Makes sense to me (& also a lot easier) to just be able to take konjac with my sups instead of food...from a Fast 5 stand point and also the fact that I'm up by 6am and never feel hungry in the morning until around 10 or 11 any way.

Thanks again,
Nancy

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Sunday, December 4, 2011

Re: [fast5] Question about konjac



Actually when they have done studies, konjac had no effect on overall absorption of nutrients. In earlier studies, it was thought that konjac interfered, because they looked at how much absorption had taken place after, say, 1-2 hours of digestion. But later when they looked at the entire digestive tract, it seems all the food was digested. And in some cases, more thoroughly absorbed than if there was no konjac, because the digestive enzymes had longer to work on the food.


So what happens is: the konjac "spreads out" digestion over a longer bit of the gut. This is good for the gut ... less stress on it. Also it means you feel full longer and your blood sugar doesn't rise so much.

In terms of meds though, I guess it would depend. It might be like taking a "slow release" version of whatever it is. I DO take konjac with my morning vitamins ... that way they don't irritate my stomach, and I kind of think it's better for vitamins to be absorbed over a longer period anyway. For actual medications though, the situation is more complicated.



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:52 PM, <bbarndogz@aol.com> wrote:


I finally bought some konjac last week.  now I'm having a hard time remembering
to take it! ...does it help the memory too? lol Just kidding!

I read a lot about it before buying it and one of the things I read (I read so
much I can't remember where) was that someone said it should be taken within 1 hr before or 2 hrs after supplements or any meds because it can interfere with absorption.
Just wondering if anyone here has ever heard of this before? I take Armour in the morning without food, wait about a half hr to an hr, then take a few other sups that require food. Trying to take konjac in between away from any sups would make a bit of a complicated morning! I haven't started Fast 5 yet. I know when I do this won't be a big deal, but I'm curious to know if konjac really does interfere with absorption?

Nancy







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[fast5] Question about konjac



I finally bought some konjac last week.  now I'm having a hard time remembering
to take it! ...does it help the memory too? lol Just kidding!

I read a lot about it before buying it and one of the things I read (I read so
much I can't remember where) was that someone said it should be taken within 1 hr before or 2 hrs after supplements or any meds because it can interfere with absorption.
Just wondering if anyone here has ever heard of this before? I take Armour in the morning without food, wait about a half hr to an hr, then take a few other sups that require food. Trying to take konjac in between away from any sups would make a bit of a complicated morning! I haven't started Fast 5 yet. I know when I do this won't be a big deal, but I'm curious to know if konjac really does interfere with absorption?

Nancy




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