Friday, December 24, 2010

[fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?

Hey, I like variety because I like the taste of things. I don't like to restrict anything from my diet, because then I crave it, and then it all goes to hell.

I don't have any health problems that would indicate cutting anything out of my diet. I have friends who have gone gluten-free, and I think - hey, good for them, but HELL if I'm going to do that. I can't STAND being so anal about what goes into my mouth, or doesn't. It actually makes me angry. So I don't do it, and I'm much happier. :-)

My only gripe about 'lack of variety' is that sometimes - man, that grapefruit sounds good. But I can't eat a grapefruit, AND the burger that also sounded good, AND the scrambled eggs, AND, AND, AND. I just don't have room in my stomach. So I'll eat the grapefruit etc. one night, the burger meal the next, and the eggs and bacon the next.


I love eggs for dinner, actually. I made stir-fry one night (which my hubby usually makes, as he's much better at cooking), and I remembered that my mom used to make a scrambled-eggs-and-rice dish that I loved, so I added some scrambled eggs to the rice and veggies - my kids LOVED it, told me it was 'better than Daddy's!' HA. So now it's kind of a staple around here. I love eggs in any form.


I have to laugh at the keeping chickens idea, though. I have friends that do that, my husband's family used to keep chickens and turkeys - and they do make good pets if you give them regular attention.

I just have less than NO desire to live that way. I'm a suburban girl, through and through - just stuck in the country, and not by my choice!

There are many ways to live - and isn't it nice to have the choice?

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@...> wrote:
>
> Variety is very much over-rated when you are following this eating style. Save money and time by only buying quantity discounted food that is TRULY good for you, not just what the "experts" say, such as Whole-Grain which probably would be best if NOBODY ate.
>
> Eggs, meats and cheese are good for the main meal, whatever the time. Vegetables every once in a while for Variety. Eating more than a meal or two a day is a sign you are striving for too much variety.
>
> Barnaby
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Swearingen" <kim@> wrote:
> >
> > You make a good point about variety taking a hit. The other night I made myself breakfast for dinner just because I missed breakfast foods! I went through the refrigerator and turned a lot of people food into chicken food simply because it would go bad before I'd get a chance to eat it if I didn't. Since I did this suddenly and cold turkey, there was no prep period or transition time to ready the fridge and pantry. I keep telling my kids to eat more but they all work and are in and out all the time and it just doesn't happen. Sorta like seeing empty space on refrigerator shelves. :-) I am going to go through the pantry and donate a lot of the nonperishible items in there, my daughter and her fiance moved in an incorporated their groceries into the pantry and we'll never eat all of it in a timely manner.
> >
> > I am wondering what others do about food selection. Does dinner sometimes mean bacon and eggs and toast or a sandwich or mostly dinner type foods, meats, salads, veggies? I'm trying to mix it up and after I get past Christmas will go back to very low sugar by making myself some sugar free baked goods for dessert. It has been miraculous to lose weight in the month of December for me!
> >
> > Merry Christmas everyone.
> >
> > Kim
> >
>


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[fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?

Why does cheese usually get such a bad rap? Cholesterol? Are all kinds of cheese are acceptable?

And why vegetables only every once in awhile? I love my veggies.

~Sandi

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@...> wrote:

> Eggs, meats and cheese are good for the main meal, whatever the time. Vegetables every once in a while for Variety. Eating more than a meal or two a day is a sign you are striving for too much variety.
>
> Barnaby
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Re: [fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?



Well, government fear mongering is sort of off topic, so I won't go there (there are some excellent books by pilots and the airline industry about *their* take on it, which is a lot more in depth than my take on it anyway). The airline industry is paranoid about the safety of their planes ... and rightly so, and their track record is actually really good ... but their viewpoint is a lot more nuanced and they are working for new rules.


As for bringing foods while travelling (which IS on topic I think!) I bring thermoses a lot, mainly non-spill beverage cups. I have them empty while going through "the line" and they always look inside (and have for years). Then on the other side I fill them up with water, coffee, etc. My main goal is just to have something that doesn't spill ... WHY they serve drinks in little plastic cups is beyond me. Also dried foods, like smoked salmon, jerky, protein bars, dried fruit, nuts, cheese, keep fine and are good travel foods in general. And you can bring dried soup and have the stewardess give you some boiling water for it.

As for eggs though, I do know something about those. We have chickens, and I tell you, eggs are one of the best foods. They have lecithin for one thing, that is really good for your heart and blood pressure. The kind of protein they have is one of the best sorts. There is no correlation between eating lots of eggs and any health problems ... the Japanese actually eat the most eggs per capita and they aren't exactly getting lots of heart attacks! If you are on a budget, eggs are about the best buy for good protein there is. They are quite filling too. Rats fed on an egg diet thrive just fine and appear to be resistant to Type 2 diabetes:


We've been eating more and more eggs, as we've learned better how to make good stuff with eggs. In most countries, eggs are NOT for breakfast, they are for dinner. Think frittata, quiche, pudding, custard. Or the Japanese and Koreans: an egg over easy, on top of rice (the yolk gets in the rice and though it sounds weird, it's wonderful: everyone in my family loves it). Also eggs in fried rice, egg omletty things in the middle of sushi rolls.

As for salmonella: salmonella is a real thing, and the chickens that got it in the egg were kept in some pretty awful conditions. I expect they will be inspected a whole lot better now. But in most places you can spend a little more, and get eggs from more local chickens that are probably treated pretty well (at least kept in a nice big clean barn). Better still, make a deal with your local "egg lady".

It's also way easier than you think to keep your own chooks ... mostly what they need is a kind of aviary with a sawdust floor. They will happily get rid of your kitchen scraps and weeds you pull up, and provide you with eggs and really good manure for your garden. They are way less work and space than a dog or cat, cheaper than a lizard, and if you raise them from chicks they are great pets.

Some people keep them in moveable pens too, and ours used to be loose and occasionally we let them out to de-bug the yard. But they like to be under cover (away from eagles) and to scratch in dirt rather than grass, and when the predators got too predacious we moved ours into a pen and they are actually laying more eggs and seem quite happy.


On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@gmail.com> wrote:
Best to throw away any kind of weight scale and use a tape measure to see your Real fat loss...or gain.

And Totally Ignore the supposed "Healthy Diet" that media always feeds us...High Carb-Low Fat.

Do the opposite of what "authorities" say so you attain lowered insulin levels from the Fasting AND the diet you eat.

And, whatever you do, don't carry your meal in a Thermos Bottle...or the "terrorists" will get you as in today's Christmas Eve "Booga-Booga".
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-issues-terror-alert-for-thermos-on-planes-74640

Anyone join me in declaring this Government fear-mongering, B.S.?

Barnaby


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Yes, Barnaby.  I'll throw in with you about the govt. fear-mongering BS.  Watching little kids flying with their families on their way to Disneyland get patted down is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while.  The 3 ounce shampoo containers, the confiscation of 4 ounce shampoo containers, all of it....nuts.
 
I also think the govt. is guilty of a grave disservice by letting the misinformation about a healthy diet continue.  I'm a big fan of the Weston Price foundation and have been eating plenty of good fats, coconut products, meats and have never had more energy.
 
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[fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?

Haha I didn't really think about that. But now that I do, I kinda miss the breakfast foods too. I think I will be making myself a nice hearty breakfast for dinner sometime soon!

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[fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?

Variety is very much over-rated when you are following this eating style. Save money and time by only buying quantity discounted food that is TRULY good for you, not just what the "experts" say, such as Whole-Grain which probably would be best if NOBODY ate.

Eggs, meats and cheese are good for the main meal, whatever the time. Vegetables every once in a while for Variety. Eating more than a meal or two a day is a sign you are striving for too much variety.

Barnaby


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Swearingen" <kim@...> wrote:
>
> You make a good point about variety taking a hit. The other night I made myself breakfast for dinner just because I missed breakfast foods! I went through the refrigerator and turned a lot of people food into chicken food simply because it would go bad before I'd get a chance to eat it if I didn't. Since I did this suddenly and cold turkey, there was no prep period or transition time to ready the fridge and pantry. I keep telling my kids to eat more but they all work and are in and out all the time and it just doesn't happen. Sorta like seeing empty space on refrigerator shelves. :-) I am going to go through the pantry and donate a lot of the nonperishible items in there, my daughter and her fiance moved in an incorporated their groceries into the pantry and we'll never eat all of it in a timely manner.
>
> I am wondering what others do about food selection. Does dinner sometimes mean bacon and eggs and toast or a sandwich or mostly dinner type foods, meats, salads, veggies? I'm trying to mix it up and after I get past Christmas will go back to very low sugar by making myself some sugar free baked goods for dessert. It has been miraculous to lose weight in the month of December for me!
>
> Merry Christmas everyone.
>
> Kim
>


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[fast5] Re: Breaking through a plateau?

Best to throw away any kind of weight scale and use a tape measure to see your Real fat loss...or gain.

And Totally Ignore the supposed "Healthy Diet" that media always feeds us...High Carb-Low Fat.

Do the opposite of what "authorities" say so you attain lowered insulin levels from the Fasting AND the diet you eat.

And, whatever you do, don't carry your meal in a Thermos Bottle...or the "terrorists" will get you as in today's Christmas Eve "Booga-Booga".
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-issues-terror-alert-for-thermos-on-planes-74640

Anyone join me in declaring this Government fear-mongering, B.S.?

Barnaby


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "flippetskater" <flippetskater@...> wrote:
>
> Hm. I should probably get out the manual for my scale and see if I can fix it - it's supposed to measure body fat, but it's been wonky for quite a long time. Maybe I would see some kind of change with that.
>
> 133 is actually still a ways from my goal - I'm only 5'1", and a rather small frame (my wedding ring is size 3 1/2, for reference). Ideally, I think I should be around 110. I was about 115 in college, and that was without exercise or watching my weight.
>
> Exercise is so hard for me right now - my house is only 700 square feet, so no room for any equipment - I work three jobs, so no time (or money) for a gym, and I'd do yoga or something in front of the TV, except my husband works night shift, so he's sleeping when the rest of us are awake, and any active movement shakes the whole house. :-( And we live on a country road that isn't very safe for walking or running. I've no desire to get hit by the milk truck, you know?
>
> Ah well. I'll keep going. I realize that a large chunk of the weight loss was water weight, etc. - and I don't really expect that high rate to continue, it's just disappointing to lose, essentially, three weeks of progress. I will go back to the salad/protein thing too - I was eating a lot of salad at first, simply because it tasted so good - I was craving avocado.
>
> That does seem to be a slight drawback to this plan - variety takes a (slight) hit. Previously, I'd have eggs and fruit for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch, then maybe salad and pasta for dinner. Now, it's like - choose ONE. And it's not like I can't have it all - I just can't have it all at one time!
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> >
> > If you are down to 133, you might be pretty close to your goal weight? If
> > so, I wouldn't worry about it much ... or get a scale that measures body fat
> > percentages. Especially I wouldn't worry about it during the holiday season.
> > People tend to *gain* weight this time of year, and you are slowly losing!
> >
> > What people have posted about plateaus though is mostly pretty
> > straightforward: eat healthier choices (start your meal with a salad,
> > protein), eat in a tighter window, get more exercise. None of which are easy
> > in the dead of winter, during the holidays, with kids around!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:59 AM, flippetskater <flippetskater@>wrote:
> >
> > > Or is this even a plateau?
> > >
> > > So, I started around Thanksgiving. By Dec 11, I was down to 133.4 - a loss
> > > of about 7 pounds. I felt a cold coming on (and posted here), so, with
> > > things to do and no time to be miserable, I broke fast and ate 'normally'
> > > for about three days (one day was a snow day here - and it's always a bit
> > > harder when I'm home with the kids).
> > >
> > > Due to that, the weight climbed again - I lost a week's worth of progress,
> > > and it's taken me until *today* to get back down to 133.4.
> > >
> > > I'm so discouraged and disappointed - I feel that if I just had stuck with
> > > it, I wouldn't have lost so much ground - that I was on a roll that I've
> > > completely lost. Since that third day, I haven't broken fast a bit - not
> > > even a taste of something. I haven't overstuffed myself during my window,
> > > either. It's a normal meal - totally what I would have eaten for dinner
> > > previously. I tallied up the calories for one of my meals out of curiosity
> > > - 1050 - and after that I made cookies with the kids, so I had two cookies
> > > and some milk - and I couldn't even finish the second cookie, because I was
> > > full.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what to do to get back on track. Part of why I'm doing this
> > > is because there *isn't* anything to count, or keep tight track of. I
> > > *hate* counting calories. I *hate* trying to keep track of nutrients. (I'm
> > > an English major - I was told there would be no math.) I also generally
> > > hate to cook. It's like a science experiment that I fail at. And if it
> > > takes longer to make it than to eat it, I'm really not interested. Feels
> > > like an utter waste of time - there's so much else I'd rather be doing.
> > >
> > > I've never tried 'low' *anything*, really, because of that. (I lost 15-20
> > > lbs on Weight Watchers, but once I got down to 19 points a day, I was just
> > > hungry, and it was hard to find food that felt like 'enough' at each meal,
> > > when those points were spread throughout the day.) I just know that if it
> > > starts to involve too much counting, math, or interminable chopping or
> > > pot-watching, it's something I won't stick with, because I hate it all so
> > > much.
> > >
> > > I know I sound like I'm complaining - I'm just really bummed.
> > >
> > > Has anyone here combined a longer water-fast with the plan? I'm wondering
> > > if a 3-day water fast might jump-start things again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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