Thursday, October 13, 2011

[fast5] Re: blood sugar

Hi Staci,

Yes I drink copious amounts of water all day and into the evening. I always have since I only have one kidney, so I drink alot to keep it flushed out. Thanks for the suggestion - I wish it was that simple for me.

Cindy

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Staci Phelps <stacibphelps@...> wrote:
>
> I know this seems too simple, but do you drink lots of water? My daughter is
> a Type I diabetic and if her sugar starts to go a bit high we can usually
> have a significant effect just by having her drink a big bottle of water.
> Might not be a miracle cure, but it can't hurt!
>
> Staci Phelps
>


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[fast5] Re: Cindy

Andy,

Thanks for your suggestion of eating an egg and almonds before bed. I think I will try that and see if I have better numbers in the morning. However the other problem I am having is (even if my numbers are good when I get up), they continue to rise because I'm not eating anything all day. They stay pretty high until around 2:00 p.m. when they will start to go down. So it looks like I may have to do a modified Fast-5 where I eat something with substance in the morning and then fast the rest of the day until dinner.

Cindy

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "andy030144@..." <andy030144@...> wrote:
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> I would try eggs and almonds right before bed. Also grapefruit juice (very
> small glass) as well as vinegar and cinnamon with all meals.
>
> I recently started taking a supplement called Athletic Greens during the
> day. Its 40 calories a serving so I just break it up into two half doses.
> Doesn't screw up a fast. I had to start taking SOMETHING during the day
> because of bad breath. Protein shakes were raising insulin so I had to drop
> them.
>
> Also try fish oil with the last meal of the day. I take the ones from the
> same company that sells the athletic greens but the BJ's version worked fine
> for me for years.
>
> Curry and ginger also come to mind although I forget to use them most of the
> time.
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Please report back. I've
> never heard if that problem and now you got me curious.
>
> Andy
>


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[fast5] Re: Long post - Fast 5 and blood sugar levels

Hi Heather,

Thanks for the suggestion to get my blood ferritin levels checked out - I think I will do that. I do donate blood pretty regularly, as I had heard it was good for diabetics too, however, I did miss it the last 2 times my church had a blood drive.

I tried eating some crackers and cheese last night before bed and this morning my blood sugar was high again, so that didn't help at all. I then fixed some water and vinegar, drank it and tested an hour later and my blood sugar had gone up further. I guess I'm just gonna have to do a modified Fast-5, where I eat something with substance in the morning to keep my blood sugar from soaring most of the day and fast the rest of the day until dinner. I love fasting all day, but keeping my blood sugar at a good level is more important.

Can you give me examples of what you eat that is low-iron-absorption. I've also tried drinking water with cinnamon and tumeric in the morning with no benefit to my blood sugar.

Thanks for all your suggestions.

Cindy
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> You might get your blood ferritin levels checked. High iron levels are very
> much associated with high glucose levels and insulin resistance. My blood
> glucose was around 95, and with Fast-5, donating blood, a
> low-iron-absorption diet, and a few other things, it's now at 83.
>
> Drinking vinegar several times throughout the day might help ... I think it
> studies it took several weeks for it to make a difference. Eating konjac
> with meals can help too: it causes food to get absorbed more gradually, so
> it doesn't spike insulin. Cinnamon and turmeric, IIRC, also help.
>
> Donating blood, in studies, works rather nicely for helping Type 2 diabetes.
>
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdiabetes.diabetesjournals.org%2Fcontent%2F51%2F4%2F1000.full&ei=okeWTuacGozHsQKty_GzBA&usg=AFQjCNHLhUvdS45AKW6ZBVVo1Y3ZLZT0wQ&sig2=VXQnle3muWXyJeJZPeBtZQ
>
> One problem, I think, with low-carb is that the low-carb diets are often
> based on lots of meat, which is high in iron. Carbs are often loaded with
> iron too, because most starches in the US have added iron and potatoes have
> it naturally. But iron is pretty easy to block: a cup of tea with a meal can
> do it, and avoiding Vit C or fruits with meals that have iron.
>
> If your glucose levels only go up while fasting, you might also try some
> exercise. Sometimes high cortisol levels will increase glucose levels.
> Cortisol tends to be produced when people don't eat, to allow glucose to be
> released into the blood. But sometimes too much cortisol is produced, which
> puts your blood sugar high (and can also make you feel lousy). In that case,
> exercise can help. Try something strenuous, like weight lifting or squats?
> Adrenaline counteracts the cortisol, I think.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, csampey99 <sampey99@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry for the long post. I've been doing Fast-5 about 2 years now. I
> > have trouble with high blood sugar at times. I'm not on any medication,
> > just trying to do it with lowcarb eating and exercise. When I first
> > started Fast-5, I checked my sugars throughout the day and except for the
> > first week I started, they stayed in pretty good range (95-120). I recently
> > became aware that I have what's called the Dawn Phenomenon, which means my
> > blood sugar rises sometime in the early morning. I recently started
> > checking first thing in the morning and my blood sugar has been high
> > (140-150) and it keeps climbing. I tried just eating a little bit, like a
> > few slices of Parm cheese - but that didn't really help. Last night before
> > bed I drank water with vinegar. This morning my sugar was lower than its
> > been (129) - still not good but lower than it has been. Well I checked an
> > hour later and it was 164. So I don't know what to do - I love eating this
> > way, but I can't have high blood sugar a good part of the 24 hour day. I
> > thought about just changing my window to eat breakfast and lunch, but I know
> > I wouldn't be able to not eat at night (dinner). I would appreciate any
> > suggestions or input anyone has.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>


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[fast5] blood sugar



I know this seems too simple, but do you drink lots of water? My daughter is a Type I diabetic and if her sugar starts to go a bit high we can usually have a significant effect just by having her drink a big bottle of water.  Might not be a miracle cure, but it can't hurt!
 
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[fast5] Cindy



I would try eggs and almonds right before bed. Also grapefruit juice (very small glass) as well as vinegar and cinnamon with all meals.

I recently started taking a supplement called Athletic Greens during the day. Its 40 calories a serving so I just break it up into two half doses. Doesn't screw up a fast. I had to start taking SOMETHING during the day because of bad breath. Protein shakes were raising insulin so I had to drop them.

Also try fish oil with the last meal of the day. I take the ones from the same company that sells the athletic greens but the BJ's version worked fine for me for years.

Curry and ginger also come to mind although I forget to use them most of the time.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Please report back. I've never heard if that problem and now you got me curious.

Andy


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Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Re: [fast5] Long post - Fast 5 and blood sugar levels



You might get your blood ferritin levels checked. High iron levels are very much associated with high glucose levels and insulin resistance. My blood glucose was around 95, and with Fast-5, donating blood, a low-iron-absorption diet, and a few other things, it's now at 83. 


Drinking vinegar several times throughout the day might help ... I think it studies it took several weeks for it to make a difference. Eating konjac with meals can help too: it causes food to get absorbed more gradually, so it doesn't spike insulin. Cinnamon and turmeric, IIRC, also help.

Donating blood, in studies, works rather nicely for helping Type 2 diabetes.


One problem, I think, with low-carb is that the low-carb diets are often based on lots of meat, which is high in iron. Carbs are often loaded with iron too, because most starches in the US have added iron and potatoes have it naturally. But iron is pretty easy to block: a cup of tea with a meal can do it, and avoiding Vit C or fruits with meals that have iron.

If your glucose levels only go up while fasting, you might also try some exercise. Sometimes high cortisol levels will increase glucose levels. Cortisol tends to be produced when people don't eat, to allow glucose to be released into the blood. But sometimes too much cortisol is produced, which puts your blood sugar high (and can also make you feel lousy). In that case, exercise can help. Try something strenuous, like weight lifting or squats? Adrenaline counteracts the cortisol, I think.



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, csampey99 <sampey99@cox.net> wrote:
Hi,

   Sorry for the long post.   I've been doing Fast-5 about 2 years now.  I have trouble with high blood sugar at times.  I'm not on any medication, just trying to do it with lowcarb eating and exercise.   When I first started Fast-5, I checked my sugars throughout the day and except for the first week I started, they stayed in pretty good range (95-120).  I recently became aware that I have what's called the Dawn Phenomenon, which means my blood sugar rises sometime in the early morning.  I recently started checking first thing in the morning and my blood sugar has been high (140-150) and it keeps climbing.  I tried just eating a little bit, like a few slices of Parm cheese - but that didn't really help.  Last night before bed I drank water with vinegar.  This morning my sugar was lower than its been (129) - still not good but lower than it has been.  Well I checked an hour later and it was 164.  So I don't know what to do - I love eating this way, but I can't have high blood sugar a good part of the 24 hour day.  I thought about just changing my window to eat breakfast and lunch, but I know I wouldn't be able to not eat at night (dinner).  I would appreciate any suggestions or input anyone has.

Thanks,

Cindy



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[fast5] Long post - Fast 5 and blood sugar levels

Hi,

Sorry for the long post. I've been doing Fast-5 about 2 years now. I have trouble with high blood sugar at times. I'm not on any medication, just trying to do it with lowcarb eating and exercise. When I first started Fast-5, I checked my sugars throughout the day and except for the first week I started, they stayed in pretty good range (95-120). I recently became aware that I have what's called the Dawn Phenomenon, which means my blood sugar rises sometime in the early morning. I recently started checking first thing in the morning and my blood sugar has been high (140-150) and it keeps climbing. I tried just eating a little bit, like a few slices of Parm cheese - but that didn't really help. Last night before bed I drank water with vinegar. This morning my sugar was lower than its been (129) - still not good but lower than it has been. Well I checked an hour later and it was 164. So I don't know what to do - I love eating this way, but I can't have high blood sugar a good part of the 24 hour day. I thought about just changing my window to eat breakfast and lunch, but I know I wouldn't be able to not eat at night (dinner). I would appreciate any suggestions or input anyone has.

Thanks,

Cindy

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