Tuesday, March 13, 2012

[fast5] Re: Need some advice



These are great suggestions. I have been on the fast-5  since Jan 21, and have been doing very well. I too, binged in the beginning and just recently actually just started feeling full after a meal.
A realization hit me one day, about 4 weeks in. And it may seem simple, but it's this: It's ok to be hungry during the day. I think I was so afraid of being  hungry I just overate during my window. I had to rethink it, and let myself feel the hunger pains and be ok with it. Also, I went and re-read the book, and that helped.
Enjoy a bit of candy, after you've had your dinner. But eat it slowly, savor it, and enjoy every last bit of it. Then take a moment and ask yourself if the second one will be any better. If you think so, go ahead and have some more. I'm still working on this myself and find I still tend to overeat, but I'm getting better, slowly but surely.
You've probably had bad eating habits for years, they won't change in a few weeks! Give yourself time, be patient, and let yourself know it's ok to binge. The hill doesn't get any higher, it's the same hill you need to climb, you just might have slid back a few steps.  I keep telling myself this and knowing that each day I'm getting healthier is good!
Don't beat yourself up, it takes time to replace bad habits with good. One thing I love about doing fast-5 is the ability to eat whatever you want in your window. You will not be able to consume as many calories as you did before this, I'm sure, so you will lose.  This is a slow and steady loss that takes time, a notion that is hard to swallow with all the fast, do it now, lose 20lbs in 3 days eating what you want diets out there. Just keep it up, do what you're doing, and it will get better!  Dont' get frustrated and give up, I have seen progress in myself, and there have been days I ate until my gut literally ached and I felt full the next day until my window. I still lost, and I have lost steadily, a pound a week!
Oh yeah, drink tons of water during the day. I get the zero calorie flavored pouches and drink those along with regular water during the day. If you drink a large amount 5 minutes before you eat, you won't be able to eat that much!
Anita

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I agree with Heather's suggestions. If cookies and cakes tend to prompt binges, the easiest place to say "no" to them (if you do the grocery shopping) is at the grocery store. That might not go over well with family members, but hopefully they can deal with it for a little while to support you so you can break the carb/binge habit.


Many people have noted that carby food on one day prompts more hunger the next, so it's good to limit your carbs and try for complex foods instead of those with refined sugars and flour. That means in addition to leaving the cookies and cakes at the grocery store, reducing bread, pasta, potatoes, white rice, etc. to a minimum. You can likely add these things back after the binge problem has settled down.The two fruits I'd avoid because they're really insulin drivers are bananas and grapes. Nuts are fine, too -- especially ones that are not typically salted, such as pecans and walnuts.

Another suggestion: Set up a reasonable break-fast portion --a generous plate-full -- using the elements Heather suggested. As soon as you have finished eating, set an egg timer for at least 30 minutes. Promise yourself not to eat anything until the timer goes off. Before it goes off, decide on the portion and content you will have so that you're not deciding while grazing through the pantry or fridge. After you eat that, reset the timer and continue until you're either sated or your window closes. The point of the timer is two-fold: (a) you decide what you're going to eat and how much in advance so you're not letting limbic hunger drive you to excess and (b) the time between servings gives your body a chance to recognize that you've consumed some fuel, measure it, and get the message to your appetite that you've had a generous meal. Like the rest of Fast-5, it's not a matter of saying "no," -- it's a matter of saying "not now," which may help.

Please let us know how it goes. I wish you all the best in your effort, and thank you for posting.

Bert

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> Okay I really need some advice. I have been doing fast five for about 6 weeks. I did have a break off on the weekends for the first three weeks but have been steady for the last three weeks. I am really struggling still with absolute binging and not on good stuff. I am eating cookies and cakes and anything I can get in my mouth. I do fine during the day. I really don't feel that hungry but once the window opens I go crazy. Unsure what to do. I don't think I'm losing weight. In fact, I'm worried I'm gaining. What do other people do to prevent this? I feel totally overstuffed when I'm done and don't feel good so it's not pleasant at all. Please help. Thanks
>


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Re: [fast5] Need some advice



Here is one thing that helps. Think of your meal as a multi-course dinner.  Preferably served

by cute adoring slaves, if you have some handy. Otherwise, just plan a little bit, so you
have a great meal to look forward to.

First course: a big green salad. Lots of stuff you like on it. For dressing, be sure
to use some vinegar (vinegar helps the appetite) and some olive oil. A honey/mustard/vinegrette
is good. I like to add some shrimp and a sliced pickled egg too, maybe some artichoke hearts.

For variety, instead of the salad, sometimes have a bowl of soup.

Next course: protein. Fish and seafood are the most filling, but steak or chicken is fine
too. Have a nice big chunk.

After the protein, have some vegies. Any kind you want. I include potatoes in that,
so a baked potato with broccoli would be good.

Last, starches and dessert. At that point, you aren't going to feel like gorging. Generally
I just don't have room for dessert by then, but if you promise yourself that you CAN
have it, you are less likely to feel deprived.

And don't rush the meal. Read a book, have conversation, watch TV ... make it a nice
leisurely time of day. TASTE your food, and go for stuff you really like. You might
find that when it comes down to it, cake isn't the tastiest food, it's just something
you cram down your throat because you crave it.

It appears from studies that protein is the "limiting factor" in the human diet, which 
is probably why "high protein" diets tend to work. Your body will keep craving
food until it reaches the protein level it is looking for. That's one reason a person
can eat an infinite amount of potato chips, but only a couple of hard-boiled eggs.
Another thing is that different kinds of protein affect the appetite differently. Eggs
and fish happen to be the most satiating proteins, along with dairy whey.

The other limiting factor tends to be fiber. The best fiber is the fiber in vegies
and fruits. It actually helps feed the gut cells, and keeps a person satisfied for
a long time.

Vinegar and yogurt also change how blood sugar reacts to a meal, so having
either one at the beginning of the meal can help with appetite.

Anyway, breaking your fast with starches, esp. sweet starches, is the least
likely to rein in your appetite. Keep a salad in the fridge so you can grab THAT
first, or some soup you can microwave quickly.



On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:44 AM, stephanie.dalton12 <stephanie.dalton12@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay I really need some advice.  I have been doing fast five for about 6 weeks.  I did have a break off on the weekends for the first three weeks but have been steady for the last three weeks.  I am really struggling still with absolute binging and not on good stuff.  I am eating cookies and cakes and anything I can get in my mouth.  I do fine during the day.  I really don't feel that hungry but once the window opens I go crazy.  Unsure what to do.  I don't think I'm losing weight.  In fact, I'm worried I'm gaining.  What do other people do to prevent this?  I feel totally overstuffed when I'm done and don't feel good so it's not pleasant at all.  Please help.  Thanks



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Okay I really need some advice. I have been doing fast five for about 6 weeks. I did have a break off on the weekends for the first three weeks but have been steady for the last three weeks. I am really struggling still with absolute binging and not on good stuff. I am eating cookies and cakes and anything I can get in my mouth. I do fine during the day. I really don't feel that hungry but once the window opens I go crazy. Unsure what to do. I don't think I'm losing weight. In fact, I'm worried I'm gaining. What do other people do to prevent this? I feel totally overstuffed when I'm done and don't feel good so it's not pleasant at all. Please help. Thanks

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Sunday, March 11, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Fwd: YouTube for cooking veggies



When the Farmer's Markets come back this summer, look for "Fortex" beans. They are amazing! One of our local growers had 3 types of green beans, but the Fortex were by far the yummiest. I got some seeds to try growing them too. 


In a pinch I use frozen beans. They can work if you rinse them, let them thaw, then let them dry (or dry them in a spinner or with a clean towel). 



--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, bertram johnson <zoneitin@...> wrote:
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>  hi!what kind of green beans do you use?
>
>
>
>  
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i have usually just grabbed any fresh green bean i see but i did notice the last ones i used weren't as good as the prev ones. since i don't pay attn to type i don't know which one was better... also i have used can green beans when fresh were not avail. in that case, i put them in a colander and rinse them before adding to the skillet. i have heard that doing that will cut the sodium by at least half. they aren't as tasty as the fresh but still very good.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, bertram johnson <zoneitin@...> wrote:
>
>  hi!what kind of green beans do you use?
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Sam <samdgood@...>
> >To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:48 AM
> >Subject: [fast5] Re: Fwd: YouTube for cooking veggies
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >so funny to see ths thread because i have recently changed how i do green beans. i did what my mom did.. put can beans in water with lots of salt and bacon grease. tasted great but wow too much salt and fat and mine never tasted as good as hers. now i do them my way.
> >
> >i love caramalized onions and use them in every recipe i can! so i bought some fresh green beans and sauteed my onions tossed in some chopped garlic and sliced mushrooms. added the beans and some low sodium soy sauce and cooked until the beans are a little soft. best green beans i ever ate.
> >
> >--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Churyl <churyl@> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Heather, you mentioned this:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Learning to eat vegies is a learning curve, sure. It took me years and
> >> > years, but that was before they invented YouTube. Watch Maangchi or Cooking
> >> > with dog, and you can see some seriously amazing meals cooked in a few
> >> > minutes, mostly based on veggies.
> >> >
> >> > I searched and found mostly meat and egg recipes. Would love some links to
> >> > your favorite veggie heavy videos!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Hm. I guess I never thought much about vegies. I usually just stir fry them
> >> or add them to my soup at the last minute. Or make them into kimchi. I
> >> tend to eat whatever vegies I happen to have ... I like the ones from my
> >> garden the best, mostly collards, kale, and green onions. I have some more
> >> lettuce started too though.
> >>
> >> One dish though, that everyone likes is Chinese Green Beans:
> >>
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2011/10/chinese-green-beans.html
> >>
> >> http://allrecipes.com/recipe/chinese-buffet-green-beans/
> >>
> >>
> >> You can also make these by mixing green beans, soy sauce, seseme oil ...
> >> and baking at high heat (400 or 425) until they are a little crinkly. Then
> >> toss in some more seseme seeds. Just watch them very carefully. The trick
> >> is to get them just the right amount "done".
> >>
> >> I treat asparagus about the same way.
> >>
> >> Also, a lot of what goes on in Asian cooking is the sauces. Like a PF
> >> Chang's ... you can mix the sauce the way you like it. I like approx equal
> >> amounts of soy sauce and honey, plus some Srachi sauce or chili oil, and
> >> chopped green onions. Dip the green beans or asparagus in it.
> >>
> >> For artichokes, cook them in some water that has a glug or two of vinegar
> >> added, plus some cloves of garlic and salt. For the dip, puree some vegies
> >> (something like babaganoush is good: cooked eggplant, garlic, seseme
> >> butter). Or make some dip from some tofu, or olive oil with fresh garlic
> >> squeezed in it. Or even use some commercial dressing or mayo if you want (I
> >> don't like mayonaissy things myself: I want more spice).
> >>
> >> If the vegies are good, they can be used in about any way you like. It's
> >> hard for me to believe how much difference there actually is, when you get
> >> good vegies! We used to have an organic farmer down the street, which is
> >> what got me addicted to "homegrown". It's taken me a couple of years to get
> >> the hang of "easy growing" (i.e. gardening without slugs, weeds, or a
> >> rototiller) but it's worth it.
> >>
> >> Here is my bag planting from last year:
> >>
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2011/05/plants-as-of-may-20.html
> >>
> >> Here are my current planters:
> >>
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-to-make-sibs.html
> >>
> >> My goal this year is to use hanging pots mostly, hanging off the porch
> >> overhang, next to the kitchen. So for making dinner, just walk out the
> >> door, pick some greens and snap peas, and cook! You can grow a lot of stuff
> >> if you go vertical, like the "grow walls", with very little space. My
> >> hanging planters though, are a lot cheaper and easier than grow walls, and
> >> made mostly made from recycles, and I don't have an issue with plants
> >> drying out or bolting, since each plant has it's own reservoir.
> >>
> >> During the winter, I grow indoors, but kale and collards don't really care
> >> if they are in the snow and I grow a fair bit on our house deck too. There
> >> are some good links to growing here:
> >>
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2010/08/subirrigation-summary.html
> >>
> >>
> >> "Growing your greens" is another good YouTube video set, mostly about
> >> growing vegies.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Heather Twist
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Friday, March 9, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Fwd: YouTube for cooking veggies



 hi!what kind of green beans do you use?

From: Sam <samdgood@yahoo.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:48 AM
Subject: [fast5] Re: Fwd: YouTube for cooking veggies

 
so funny to see ths thread because i have recently changed how i do green beans. i did what my mom did.. put can beans in water with lots of salt and bacon grease. tasted great but wow too much salt and fat and mine never tasted as good as hers. now i do them my way.

i love caramalized onions and use them in every recipe i can! so i bought some fresh green beans and sauteed my onions tossed in some chopped garlic and sliced mushrooms. added the beans and some low sodium soy sauce and cooked until the beans are a little soft. best green beans i ever ate.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Churyl <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Heather, you mentioned this:
> >
> > >
> > > Learning to eat vegies is a learning curve, sure. It took me years and
> > years, but that was before they invented YouTube. Watch Maangchi or Cooking
> > with dog, and you can see some seriously amazing meals cooked in a few
> > minutes, mostly based on veggies.
> >
> > I searched and found mostly meat and egg recipes. Would love some links to
> > your favorite veggie heavy videos!
> >
> >
> Hm. I guess I never thought much about vegies. I usually just stir fry them
> or add them to my soup at the last minute. Or make them into kimchi. I
> tend to eat whatever vegies I happen to have ... I like the ones from my
> garden the best, mostly collards, kale, and green onions. I have some more
> lettuce started too though.
>
> One dish though, that everyone likes is Chinese Green Beans:
>
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2011/10/chinese-green-beans.html
>
> http://allrecipes.com/recipe/chinese-buffet-green-beans/
>
>
> You can also make these by mixing green beans, soy sauce, seseme oil ...
> and baking at high heat (400 or 425) until they are a little crinkly. Then
> toss in some more seseme seeds. Just watch them very carefully. The trick
> is to get them just the right amount "done".
>
> I treat asparagus about the same way.
>
> Also, a lot of what goes on in Asian cooking is the sauces. Like a PF
> Chang's ... you can mix the sauce the way you like it. I like approx equal
> amounts of soy sauce and honey, plus some Srachi sauce or chili oil, and
> chopped green onions. Dip the green beans or asparagus in it.
>
> For artichokes, cook them in some water that has a glug or two of vinegar
> added, plus some cloves of garlic and salt. For the dip, puree some vegies
> (something like babaganoush is good: cooked eggplant, garlic, seseme
> butter). Or make some dip from some tofu, or olive oil with fresh garlic
> squeezed in it. Or even use some commercial dressing or mayo if you want (I
> don't like mayonaissy things myself: I want more spice).
>
> If the vegies are good, they can be used in about any way you like. It's
> hard for me to believe how much difference there actually is, when you get
> good vegies! We used to have an organic farmer down the street, which is
> what got me addicted to "homegrown". It's taken me a couple of years to get
> the hang of "easy growing" (i.e. gardening without slugs, weeds, or a
> rototiller) but it's worth it.
>
> Here is my bag planting from last year:
>
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2011/05/plants-as-of-may-20.html
>
> Here are my current planters:
>
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-to-make-sibs.html
>
> My goal this year is to use hanging pots mostly, hanging off the porch
> overhang, next to the kitchen. So for making dinner, just walk out the
> door, pick some greens and snap peas, and cook! You can grow a lot of stuff
> if you go vertical, like the "grow walls", with very little space. My
> hanging planters though, are a lot cheaper and easier than grow walls, and
> made mostly made from recycles, and I don't have an issue with plants
> drying out or bolting, since each plant has it's own reservoir.
>
> During the winter, I grow indoors, but kale and collards don't really care
> if they are in the snow and I grow a fair bit on our house deck too. There
> are some good links to growing here:
>
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/2010/08/subirrigation-summary.html
>
>
> "Growing your greens" is another good YouTube video set, mostly about
> growing vegies.
>
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>





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