Sunday, August 15, 2010

[fast5] Re: Conundrum!

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@...> wrote:
>
> Hehe .. She has been vegetarian for over twenty years, and is far stronger
> than me!! I am sure that it isn't the animal fat that is the problem, just
> the generally lower levels of fat..
>
> She isn't brainwashing me at all -- in fact she has turned me on to butter
> instead of margarine... and I wasn't not eating meat, just avoiding the
> eating of it in her presence (my idea, not hers!!)
>
> ..
>
> Tom.


Guys just want to be sure that another guy doesn't allow himself to be "P-whipped". ;-)

Too much silliness going on in the media about the "dangers" of animal fat. Subway puts only egg-whites, no yolks, in their new breakfast sandwiches. UK cardiologists getting all kinds of press for recommending statins for everyone eating a "fatty" burger.

I would recommend you stick with your IF as the only thing you will lose is body fat, if you eat sufficient good food when eating. You stated you couldn't eat very much, so figured you might have been filling up on veggies instead of meat.

Barnaby


> On 15 August 2010 06:59, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the replies!
> > >
> > > I have realised that I have been on a mainly vegetarian diet for the last
> > 3
> > > months (due to dating a lovely vegetarian lady!), so I probably haven't
> > been
> > > getting as much fat as I have been used to. She also went on a
> > > Weightwatchers diet a couple of weeks back, and my chocolate consumption
> > has
> > > dropped as a result (I can't eat it in front of her!).
> > >
> > > I am not feeling poorly or anything - just got a bit worried. I feel a
> > bit
> > > better now - and just need to make sure that I get an adequate supply of
> > fat
> > > from somewhere! :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again!
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> >
> > Somewhere, is ANIMAL Fats and Proteins!
> >
> > She surely hasn't veggie brainwashed you to avoid butter, whole eggs and
> > dairy?
> >
> > And here you were ready to falsely blame Fast-5 for becoming a skinny
> > vegetarian. You are losing MUSCLE.
> >
> > When I read your conundrum, I suspected you weren't eating good food.
> >
> > Try educating HER by suggesting "The Vegetarian Myth".
> > http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/398/The-Vegetarian-Myth.html
> >
> > Barnaby
> >
> >
> > > On 13 August 2010 12:05, Tom Jones <tomjones8@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > I took up Fast-5 around 20 months ago, and it has been very good for me
> > -
> > > > maybe too good!
> > > >
> > > > I weighed around 13 stone (180 pounds) and my target was around 10.5
> > stone
> > > > (147 pounds) - which I achieved in about 3 or 4 months. I have spent
> > the
> > > > last year maintaining this weight, with a bit of cheating here and
> > there.
> > > >
> > > > In the last couple of weeks, however, my weight has dropped to 10 stone
> > > > without me trying (140 pounds), and I can't seem to get it back up
> > again, no
> > > > matter how much I try, I keep getting full too easily!
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas, should I stop fast-5 for a while, or give it up completely?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Tom.
> >
> >
> >
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Saturday, August 14, 2010

Re: [fast5] Re: Conundrum!



Hehe .. She has been vegetarian for over twenty years, and is far stronger than me!!  I am sure that it isn't the animal fat that is the problem, just the generally lower levels of fat..

She isn't brainwashing me at all -- in fact she has turned me on to butter instead of margarine... and I wasn't not eating meat, just avoiding the eating of it in her presence (my idea, not hers!!)

..

Tom.

On 15 August 2010 06:59, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@gmail.com> wrote:

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies!
>
> I have realised that I have been on a mainly vegetarian diet for the last 3
> months (due to dating a lovely vegetarian lady!), so I probably haven't been
> getting as much fat as I have been used to.  She also went on a
> Weightwatchers diet a couple of weeks back, and my chocolate consumption has
> dropped as a result (I can't eat it in front of her!).
>
> I am not feeling poorly or anything - just got a bit worried.  I feel a bit
> better now - and just need to make sure that I get an adequate supply of fat
> from somewhere! :)
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Tom


Somewhere, is ANIMAL Fats and Proteins!

She surely hasn't veggie brainwashed you to avoid butter, whole eggs and dairy?

And here you were ready to falsely blame Fast-5 for becoming a skinny vegetarian. You are losing MUSCLE.

When I read your conundrum, I suspected you weren't eating good food.

Try educating HER by suggesting "The Vegetarian Myth".
http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/398/The-Vegetarian-Myth.html

Barnaby


> On 13 August 2010 12:05, Tom Jones <tomjones8@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I took up Fast-5 around 20 months ago, and it has been very good for me -
> > maybe too good!
> >
> > I weighed around 13 stone (180 pounds) and my target was around 10.5 stone
> > (147 pounds) - which I achieved in about 3 or 4 months.  I have spent the
> > last year maintaining this weight, with a bit of cheating here and there.
> >
> > In the last couple of weeks, however, my weight has dropped to 10 stone
> > without me trying (140 pounds), and I can't seem to get it back up again, no
> > matter how much I try, I keep getting full too easily!
> >
> > Any ideas, should I stop fast-5 for a while, or give it up completely?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Tom.



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[fast5] Re: Conundrum!

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies!
>
> I have realised that I have been on a mainly vegetarian diet for the last 3
> months (due to dating a lovely vegetarian lady!), so I probably haven't been
> getting as much fat as I have been used to. She also went on a
> Weightwatchers diet a couple of weeks back, and my chocolate consumption has
> dropped as a result (I can't eat it in front of her!).
>
> I am not feeling poorly or anything - just got a bit worried. I feel a bit
> better now - and just need to make sure that I get an adequate supply of fat
> from somewhere! :)
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Tom


Somewhere, is ANIMAL Fats and Proteins!

She surely hasn't veggie brainwashed you to avoid butter, whole eggs and dairy?

And here you were ready to falsely blame Fast-5 for becoming a skinny vegetarian. You are losing MUSCLE.

When I read your conundrum, I suspected you weren't eating good food.

Try educating HER by suggesting "The Vegetarian Myth".
http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/398/The-Vegetarian-Myth.html

Barnaby


> On 13 August 2010 12:05, Tom Jones <tomjones8@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I took up Fast-5 around 20 months ago, and it has been very good for me -
> > maybe too good!
> >
> > I weighed around 13 stone (180 pounds) and my target was around 10.5 stone
> > (147 pounds) - which I achieved in about 3 or 4 months. I have spent the
> > last year maintaining this weight, with a bit of cheating here and there.
> >
> > In the last couple of weeks, however, my weight has dropped to 10 stone
> > without me trying (140 pounds), and I can't seem to get it back up again, no
> > matter how much I try, I keep getting full too easily!
> >
> > Any ideas, should I stop fast-5 for a while, or give it up completely?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Tom.

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Re: [fast5] Re: Ramadan



That's curious. Probably I misunderstand, but surely abstinence from all things impure should be a continuous rather than merely annual endeavor. And, as I wrote, I'd see it more as an endeavor than a thing that we can accomplish, whether annually or continually, though I suppose that depends on how narrowly one understands the concept of "impure." Part of moral development, as I understand it, is coming to an ever-widening understanding of the pervasiveness of impurity and, in particular, understanding impurity as a universal tendency of humankind, including oneself, rather than merely a condition affecting others.


If doing so would not violate reasonable boundaries on topics of discussion here (which would perhaps entail a form of impurity), would you clarify, please?

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:46 AM, reyazraheem <reyazr@rogers.com> wrote:
 

Well said Jill !
One other thing you can add about Ramadan, is that it is also abstenance from all things impure - bad thoughts (avoid anger, jealousy), bad words (avoid cursing, back-biting), vision (avoid looking at things we should not be looking at), hearing (avoid listening to bad words). It is a yearly retraining of the mind and body.

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[fast5] Re: Conundrum!



Thanks for all the replies!

I have realised that I have been on a mainly vegetarian diet for the last 3 months (due to dating a lovely vegetarian lady!), so I probably haven't been getting as much fat as I have been used to.  She also went on a Weightwatchers diet a couple of weeks back, and my chocolate consumption has dropped as a result (I can't eat it in front of her!).

I am not feeling poorly or anything - just got a bit worried.  I feel a bit better now - and just need to make sure that I get an adequate supply of fat from somewhere! :)


Thanks again!

Tom

On 13 August 2010 12:05, Tom Jones <tomjones8@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all

I took up Fast-5 around 20 months ago, and it has been very good for me - maybe too good!

I weighed around 13 stone (180 pounds) and my target was around 10.5 stone (147 pounds) - which I achieved in about 3 or 4 months.  I have spent the last year maintaining this weight, with a bit of cheating here and there.

In the last couple of weeks, however, my weight has dropped to 10 stone without me trying (140 pounds), and I can't seem to get it back up again, no matter how much I try, I keep getting full too easily!

Any ideas, should I stop fast-5 for a while, or give it up completely?


Thanks!

Tom.



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[fast5] Re: Ramadan

Well said Jill !
One other thing you can add about Ramadan, is that it is also abstenance from all things impure - bad thoughts (avoid anger, jealousy), bad words (avoid cursing, back-biting), vision (avoid looking at things we should not be looking at), hearing (avoid listening to bad words). It is a yearly retraining of the mind and body.

Regards
Reyaz

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Jill McCollum <jillmcc@...> wrote:
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> I have never posted before, but I saw the comment on Ramadan and water
> and wanted to share the little I know.
>
> Ramadan is a time for people who are Muslim to focus on spiritual well
> being, so I'm not sure that you will find that there are long-term
> physical benefits to a water-fast before sundown. One piece of this
> turning to the spiritual is to become aware of what you have been
> given, and to gain a heart for what it is like for millions of people
> throughout the world who go without food and clean water, not just one
> month of the year, but always. Children and those who are ill do not
> fast, nor do pregnant woman. During Ramadan, Muslims do extra work
> giving to charities, feeding others, and of course, spend increased
> time in prayer.
>
> Here in Arizona, the water portion of the fast can be a particular
> challenge, especially when Ramadan falls in August, as it does this
> year. I work with school districts (teenagers who are in good health
> do fast) and one of the things we try to be mindful of is being
> supportive to students who are fasting, given that it can be 117
> degrees out. Our coaches and PE teachers are made aware, our teachers
> are made aware, and none of the schools with which I personally work
> has ever had an incident in which a student's health was compromised.
> But my experience is that these students and their families do very
> well, and although I don't know of any benefit to their physical
> health, they are very grounded young people who seem to have a genuine
> sense of gratitude and to have their priorities in the right place.
>
> I know this is a Fast 5 (hooray for Fast 5, btw!) group and not a
> Ramadan group, but thanks for letting me share.
>
> :-)
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[fast5] Konjac? Re: Need advise on interesting change with following fast-5

I've tried it 30 min before the meal, which is what the instructions on the bottle say. I didn't notice it killing my appetite. I will try it with the meal, see what it does.

Thank you,
Tamara

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> If you take it 30 minutes before the meal, it will kill your appetite quite
> a bit ... which could be a good thing or not, depending on where you are at.
> I tend to get full way too fast, so I take it with the meal or just before.
> If you take it after the meal, you might find yourself feeling very
> "overfull" because it does expand in your stomach.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM, tamaratornado <tamaratornado@...>wrote:
>
> > Should you take the konjac with the meal or 30 min before the meal?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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