"The issue with beef isn't salicylic acid, but sialic acid. Sialic acid can be inflammatory if it's the wrong "shape". Human beings, fish, and birds, all have the neu5ac form. But beef has neu5gc. The GC form gets attacked in the body causing inflammation. " That's very interesting, Heather. Do you know if the study used CAFO beef and were there comparable tests done with grass fed beef and dairy? They seem to be quite different in composition. Amy
--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Hello all.....suggestions would help....
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 1:29 PM
Well, for me, if I eat dairy I get "brain fog" the next day. I really cannot think straight. So it's pretty obvious. Also I often get migraines the day after.
The issue with beef isn't salicylic acid, but sialic acid. Sialic acid can be inflammatory if it's the wrong "shape". Human beings, fish, and birds, all have the neu5ac form. But beef has neu5gc. The GC form gets attacked in the body causing inflammation. I was interested in this because I'm at an age where our family gets arthritis rather badly, and both of my sisters and my Mom has it. Really swollen joints. So I experimented, and yep, my joints get more sore the more beef I eat. So I don't eat it very often. It doesn't give me brain fog though.
Your blood glucose DOES read as rather low! I'm not sure what the health implications of that are. Some of the folks looking at longevity feel it's better to be on the low side. It seems from my experience that it is the drop in blood glucose that causes more of the symptoms ... i.e. if it is low and stays low, the body adapts.
I did the 5-meal-a-day thing for some time. It didn't make me feel good, mentally. Actually I got rather depressed for some reason. I wasn't hungry ever, but I couldn't get motivated to do anything either. There isn't all that much historical reference for the "constant grazing" idea that the bodybuilders got into. It might work better to build massive muscle ... it does for chickens. If you feed chickens all day long, you get more meat. But the thing is, those muscular chickens, the ones you buy at the store ... are not strong or healthy, compared to chickens fed only once or twice a day, which was the tradition for chickens (feed them in the morning, then let them forage, so most of their calories are in the morning .... part of that has to do with not leaving food out for rats). Anyway, if you feed cornish-cross chickens all day long, they don't get overly fat, but they do get "muscle bound". That nice thick breast-meat that people like. But, those chickens can barely walk. They are not healthy chickens. The same cornish-cross chicken, fed once a day, is a much lighter bird, and way healthier. It can hop and fly. So more muscle does NOT equate to more health.
I think the "snack all day" thing came about because the body builders were looking for really BIG muscles. I.e. lots of muscle mass, with very little fat. Those people might also be healthy, since they work out and eat careful meals. But are they really healthier than the body builders in the past, who only ate two meals a day?
Jack LaLanne is a good example I think. He was super strong, even when he got old! But he didn't have big bulging muscles. He ate two meals a day, and was spry into his 90's.
We don't really have much history, to see how the 5-meal-a-day people will age or do long term. We DO have a lot of history on 1-or-2 meal a day people, because that was the norm in the past. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:17 PM, tg15660 <tg15660@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Heather,
Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it.
It is interesting that you mentioned dairy (including ghee) and the salicylic acid issue in meat (from another post).
The first three weeks of fast-fiving, I cut out all dairy and beef. I just added the dairy back in and don't seem to be having any issues with it that I can tell. How would I know if dairy was an issue? Would I necessarily feel it in my joints or just in my gut? The beef doesn't seem to be bothering me either (I've switched to grass-fed beef only), but (again) I'm not sure how I would tell?
My naturopathic doctor told me to try this, then to add these foods back in every three days and see if I have any issues, but it's hard for me to tell. Not quite sure if I have issues? Hmmmmm.
So...without dairy or beef, I still had brain fog for this first experience with this and don't know why. It started when I started doing this.
I checked my blood sugar reading in the middle of the afternoon several days ago(my window is from 6pm to 11pm). My reading was only 53, which shocked me. I wasn't shaky or anything like that and was uncertain as to what to make of this reading. I took another reading yesterday at around same time and it was 73.
Maybe the issue is that this is just going to take longer for my body to adjust. I do have to say that my body certainly seems to prefer fast-fiving. I'm not at all hungry during the day, I have good energy, and I sleep well, plus all of my numbers improved (except for the ph).....if it wasn't for this dang brain fog.
I feel like there's a lighthouse inside my brain somewhere trying to work its way through the fog. :O)
The naturopath does not agree with fast-five and says that I need to "feed my brain" every three hours. I tried that. Boy, did I give that a good try (for months)....but just yuck. I became so weary from trying to find something to eat every 3 hours...it controlled my entire day. I lost all interest in eating anything even though I ate very little every three/four hours.
Well....I guess like everything else....tweak, tweak, tweak....until I find that magic formula...or whatever.
Okay....thanks Heather.....Annie
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> You might try experimenting with foods. Food allergies tend to show up MORE
> on Fast-5. I think part of the issue is that the "fasting" period acts as a
> kind of semi-withdrawal from addictive foods. Some foods have a druglike
> effect in the body. One thing that seems to help some people with this
> issue is cocoa ... you can make cocoa tea with cocoa powder in hot water in
> the morning, see if it helps (the powder without sugar is rather low in
> calories).
>
> For me the big culprit is any dairy (including ghee). Also, some foods are
> better on the brain than others. Fish especially is good for the brain, and
> eggs too I think. Turmeric helps college kids get better scores on tests. I
> started adding more spices to my meals, esp. stuff like "Tom Yum", which is
> a mix of lime, ginger, garlic, chili and fish paste. Really helps with my
> alertness.
>
> Also I added Vit B and sublingual B12. Some people don't absorb B vitamins
> well from food, and there isn't much in most foods anyway, except yeast and
> beer.
>
> As for the low calories ... you probably don't actually know how many
> calories your body NEEDS. If you have extra fat, and your body wants to
> live off that rather than cue you to eat more ... then your body is
> probably right. Every day your body is tearing down cells and If you weigh
> 90 lbs and start having symptoms of malnourishment then there is a
> problem. It's unlikely there is a problem though. Your body is constantly
> breaking down cells and letting fat out of cells, and THAT is a source of
> calories too, although one you don't see. Also the number of calories you
> put in your mouth is only vaguely related to how many calories your body
> actually absorbs from that food. Under usual circumstances, your body might
> only absorb half to 3/4 of the food you eat, but it can be way more
> efficient than that if it wants to.
>
> BTW my daughter doesn't "do" Fast-5 but she tends to only eat one meal a
> day. On the BMI scale, she is considered a bit overweight, but it's all
> muscle, she's athletic and she looks great. When she calculated her food
> intake though, for a health class, it turns out that her caloric intake is
> like 800 cal/day. She doesn't starve herself, but she just gets full fast
> and has the habit of just stopping eating when she's full (I never made her
> "clean her plate" which strikes me as a bad habit to teach kids). None of
> it is junk food though, and her digestion works really well. Statistically,
> animals that have good food but get less of it tend to live longer and be
> healthier, so I'm happy for her.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM, tg15660 <tg15660@...> wrote:
>
> > After reading the ebook, I started Fast Five three weeks ago.
> >
> > My numbers changed drastically for the better:
> >
> > Beginning blood pressure: 136/77
> > After three 3 weeks on Fast Five: 116/79
> >
> > I lost 12 pounds in these three weeks.
> >
> > I lost 8 inches.
> >
> > My fasting blood sugar went from 118 down to 101.
> >
> > My sleep pattern has improved greatly.
> >
> > There are presently three issues that concern me.
> >
> > The first is that I have very bad brain fog all day long until I eat.
> >
> > Could this be a cortisol increase from not eating? Once my window opens
> > and I start to eat, this brain fog goes away.
> >
> > Secondly, I also found that I simply was not hungry and was averaging only
> > about 700 calories daily. This concerns me. Too low in calories?
> >
> > The third issue is that my ph balance has gotten worse...and I can't get
> > it to improve no matter what I eat. I eat a large fresh salad with
> > homemade dressing daily. I eat some fruit (not much)....mostly
> > meat/rice/green veggies/green tea/ghee for cooking/a little cream with
> > coffee.
> >
> > I appreciate your wisdom.
> >
> > I've gone back and have been reading this group from the beginning.
> >
> > Very encouraging posts.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for you help.....Annie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>
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