Thanks to everyone who responded. All the information provided is extremely helpful. Today is my first day on the program. I'm at a conference in San Francisco. Did an abridged workout then got on a plane. I started the morning with a full glass of alkalized water with a teaspoon of Athletic Greens powder. I hope that doesn't throw me off too much (40 grams total). I've been drinking water and diet coke so far. I've been able to skip lunch without a problem so far. Although I do feel hungry, it's not as bad as I thought. This is a 3 day conference so if I do well out here it may give me a good foundation when I get back home. Wife thinks I'm crazy for doing this but is supportive nonetheless.
Will keep everyone posted.
Paul.
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I would recommend going through the archives ... there have been some big successes and sometimes the successes come back to say "hi". Replies below though:On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:40 AM, bluechip4271 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Let me apologize in advance for the long post I'm about to write. I just came across this diet plan/lifestyle yesterday and spent most of the morning reading, researching and re-reading the book. I'm a fairly active person but ideally I would like to lose 20-25lbs to get back to my college weight. Since I've just turned 40, this would be a major accomplishment for me. Right now I'm trying to determine between trying the Warrior Diet or Fast-5.
Based on what I've read, I'm excited about the possibilites Fast-5 offers but have the following questions:
1. I workout in the morning (from 6:30am to 7:30am) 5 times a week. I usually take a supplement,eat 1 hard boiled egg and a small shake (Athletic Greens) prior to working out. Anyone have trouble working out in the morning on this program without food or are there some tips you can share?
A number of people do exactly that, exercise on an empty stomach. Actually some of the body builders who are not doing IF still think it's better to exercise on an empty stomach, because it uses up the glycogen and you are more likely to lose fat.It helps to remember that when you eat, you aren't actually using the energy from the food you just ate. It takes awhile to digest it. The energy you are using is basically from stored glycogen and glucose in your blood. When you eat though, your body puts out hormones that allow you to access the glycogen more easily, and hormones that make you feel satiated. However, your body CAN be trained to just release the glycogen, and burn glucose and fat for energy, without having a "food" trigger for the hormones. Relying on "food" to release stored food, is a bad idea, because it makes your reliant on eating constantly!That is the big thing about Fast-5, or the Warrior diet, or other IF plans. You are training your body to access stored food, without a food trigger. Once that happens, you can go a LONG time without food and be just fine.When you exercise hard on "empty", your body also learns to store more glycogen. The Navy Seals train for just that, so they can go on missions where food isn't available.While you are getting used to going into that mode though, you can feel pretty awful. I highly recommend starting slowly, moving break-fast back half an hour a day, or using the Warrior Diet-style eating at the beginning (eat fresh fruits and vegies during the day, until dinner).2. Can multivitamins or other supplements be taken during the fasting phase?You can, but some might upset your stomach. I've been starting my day with a dill pickle (zero calories) and a glass of water with turmeric in it, with the vitamins. Sometimes I put konjac in the water too, but it doesn't seem to be needed with the pickle. The pickle seems to give whatever buffering it is that is needed with the vitamins.3. I'm from California and do a lot of traveling to the east coast. The time zone change could frequently impact by eating windows - anyone have any advice on how to manage that?Once your body gets used to accessing stored energy, it won't be so critical one way or another. If your body decides to throw a hissy fit though, because dinner is late (bodies do stuff like that! I think "hunger" is a little bit like a cat: it gets used to being fed at a certain time) ... if you feel bad, try eating something like lettuce or a dill pickle. That can trigger the "I'm eating" hormones, without actually eating calories.4. Since this is my first time, any tips on managing hunger throughout the day? Pickles, small handful of nuts, etc?Go slow. I went cold-turkey, and had a headache for a week. Also, eat a fair bit of protein at night. Some people get crazy hungry the next day, if they don't get enough protein the night before. I think eggs and fish are particularly good for managing hunger; whey works for some people too. Vinegar seems to have a good effect on satiation and insulin response, esp. if you have some just before a meal. So pickles and vinegar on salad is a great idea. Pickles are zero calories, on the label, so should be "legal".Wheat and wheat products can do some weird stuff hormonally, esp. in some people: beer too, so you might want to avoid these.
5. Instead of getting cold turkey, I've been thinking of following the adjustment phase and having break-fast around noon. Will there be any weight loss or even worse, weight gain during the adjustment period?The book recommends moving breakfast back by 1/2 an hour a day. Which is a good solution I think.Another trick I learned from the Warrior diet is eating dinner in "courses". I.e., start out dinner with the salad course: a big green salad with vinegar. Vinegar helps with weight loss all by itself. Next, have your protein course: meat, beans, whatever. Then, a starchy course. Last ... if you have room! ... dessert.This makes sure you get the right nutrients. What happens eventually is that you get full with not that much food, and it's easy to just scarf down a bowl of pasta or whatever, then you are full! I had to train myself to eat the "best" stuff first, because I probably won't eat anything else (I can't: I get too full). Last night I had a nice salad with tuna on it, and that's pretty much all I could eat.
6. Would I still see the benefits of weightloss if I did this program 5-6 days a week vs. 7? I'm a big believer in the 80/20 rule, but I'm not sure if it will work under this program.Most people don't need to "Go off it" one day a week. Once your body adapts, it seems weird to eat earlier in the day, like wearing pajamas during the day. If I actually eat breakfast, I don't feel very good during the day either.
7. Lastly, although I know this program may take up to 3 weeks to see results, anyone experience weight loss in the first 3 weeks?Yes, it varies greatly from person to person. It probably takes a month or so for your body to adapt, and during that time your appetite can do some weird stuff.
Thanks very much for your help with answering these questions. I'm looking forward to being another successful fast-5er and a future prodcutive memeber of this group.
Paul
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