So very well put!!! Excellent post!!!
Chantelle
On 10/23/10 8:36 PM, "foxchyck" <foxeye@jungle-fire.com> wrote:
There are also places in the world which survive on sparse meals of mostly animal product who don't have the diseases of civilization. :/ All depends on whose data you want to pay attention to. It's very easy to pick and choose. What we can at least say for sure is that mostly refined wheat and sugar ain't it. :)
Personally, I'm currently in the "go carnivore if you can" camp. Primal if all meat becomes too intense. I just have seen how I feel when I eat mostly animal vs mostly plant. And wheat just...ugh. Doesn't matter if it's whole grains or not, still makes me feel bad. So I figure I'll just put a bit Gluten Sensitive stamp on my forehead and jump on that bandwagon, because folks don't argue with me too much when I put it that way.
(Regarding arterial health, truly, there's no correlation between dietary cholesterol and heart disease. My father, a Ph.D. biologist, scoured all the literature after his first heart scare, and came to the same conclusion that many people have been muttering - and which Taubes made more visible. Which is that the FUD about animal fat is just that: FUD. Inflammation is more what we should be paying attention to.)
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "hillrunner_tx" <preedntx@...> wrote:
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> If you're going to try grains, think whole grains. Clarence Bass' (Mr. Ripped) morning meals are comprised of a zillion different grains--steel cut oats, etc.--which combined with a little ground flaxseed, etc., will fill you for hours. And, it'd be a much healthier approach for arterial health. Dr. Joel Fuhrman's emphasis on beans (love black) is another great option...toss in veggies (onions, etc.), tomatoes, a little rice and you're set. Cooking author Mark Bittman has ideas on meals "without a face" for breakfast & lunch (could apply to the five hour window) and his dinners emphasize minimal protein and lots of plant foods.
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> Read the Blue Zones--most of the world survives on three meals a day which are 70 - 80% plant based which varies depending on the region. And "western" diseases--heart (arterial), Type II diabetes, etc., are practically nonexistent in these areas.
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "foxchyck" <foxeye@> wrote:
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> >
> > Oh great, now I'm hungry. :P No talking about bacon in a fasting group!
> >
> > And yes, I agree with the others that getting good amounts of protein and fat, and not overdoing it on the grains (assuming you can't bring yourself to cut them out altogether) is your best bet for satisfying your body.
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A number of people have reported that they get hungrier the next day if they
> > > > don't get enough protein the day before. I think there are some studies that
> > > > indicate that human beings have their hunger levels geared to eat a certain
> > > > quantity of protein per day, and they will keep eating until they get that
> > > > amount.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I've certainly found it is true for me. Esp. I am less hungry if I
> > > > get eggs and fish. For some reason those two foods are the most satisfying
> > > > for me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, salad and pasta just isn't going to "cut it".
> > >
> > > On the other hand, one meal a day of several scrambled eggs, cheese and bacon will last until the next day. Same satisfaction with a couple bacon cheeseburger patties or similar fatty meat variations. When you are eating one meal a day, you'll eat sufficient quantity then and won't have to concern yourself with worrying about a silly window.
> > >
> > > Fear of Fat and meat is probably the biggest myth which has brainwashed people and sets them up for failure with too many Carbohydrates.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3FVvEJ-Nk
> > >
> > > The lowered insulin level while fasting is similar to the lowered insulin levels while eating few carbohydrates.
> > >
> > > Barnaby
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, poisongirl6485
> > > > <poisongirl6485@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So I'm home all day with my kids and then I work at night until 2am. I had
> > > > > a perfect fasting day yesterday, complete with 2 minutes on the treadmill
> > > > > during a break at work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Today, not so good...I made some pasta to go with some leftover spag sauce
> > > > > for my 3 year old who wanted some, and for some reason was feeling so hungry
> > > > > and ate a bowl myself (it was whole wheat pasta so I guess that's the only
> > > > > plus).
> > > > >
> > > > > I think part of it was I didn't eat enough in my window last night. I had
> > > > > a salad with shredded cheese and bowl of said pasta before work (I work 530p
> > > > > - 2 a and my window is 4-9), and a baggie of quaker oat squares cereal that
> > > > > I munched on the first few hours of my shift. When my lunch rolled around
> > > > > at 830, I just wasn't hungry at all so I skipped eating then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestions? And now that I've eaten already for today, should I just count
> > > > > my window as already started? How do you handle that when you break fast
> > > > > too early?
> > > > >
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