Yes. I so much agree! To me it is so much better for their confidence!!!! ( I felt like my mom’s methods degraded my confidence to some degree, or maybe to a lot of a degree, depends on the day I’m thinking about it :) :))
Dh and I were both very genetically skinny children, very very skinny and genetically skinny young adults. We both have very skinny pictures of our parents as young adults too and my parents as adults neither one has a weight problem, etc. and grandparents all didn’t either, for the most part as in most of their lives they were all normal weighted people......
Anyway, I said all that to say that this is where the kid thing gets tricky. People are used to seeing fatter chunkier kids I think. Nearly every mom I’ve met has had a doctor start one of their babies on formula because they were too thin or get the all concerned about their too thin toddlers..... This distresses me so much because I know this is NOT healthy (putting babies on formula when it is obvious the baby was healthy and thriving and the parents are genetically tiny). Last case I heard of this, the doctor said “it’s probably just genetic but you need to get the 4 month old on formula and eating cereal just to be safe”. The mom had been exclusively breast feeding.
I get so upset about it that I want to just explode and if I don’t know the person telling the story I usually just have to walk away because I feel like anything I say isn't’ going to matter anyway.......”the doctor said” is going to trump what I say, but in most situations I try to speak up a little bit.......this last time I just couldn’t because the more times I hear that same tale the more I am getting so upset......
Oh and in this last case the doctor has JUST told the mom this during that past week and the baby was actually almost CHUNKY. I know it didn’t get chunky in the few days it had been on formula.
Anyway...this is totally off topic and has turned into a rant...... Thanks for letting me vent here!
Chantelle
On 8/7/10 2:28 PM, "Heather Twist" <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:
Coming to a consensus about meal patterns is just plain difficult. My take has mainly been to let kids figure out their own appetites and clothing choices (when to wear a coat etc). My husband's family was always more controlling and he was highly uncomfortable with that. It's worked though: the kids are way more confident and better at making choices overall.
My argument at the time was: "Look, our country is not full of skinny people who don't eat enough. It's full of fat people who have been trained to eat all day long and to clean their plates."
There are kids who really and truly don't eat enough, but it's rare and usually there is a reason (like depression, emotional issues, or gut problems).
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Chantelle <chantelles@cox.net> wrote:
I agree. My mom always nagged me to eat and I just flat out refused, pretended to it or tried to avoid eating as much of it as possible. Yet I still was, until more recently, pretty focused on a several meal a day model with my kids. However, since one of them goes to school, he was really just eating all his main food within an eating window anyway. I watched him this summer and oth of them, if allowed to do what comes natural to them, very much follow a natural fast five pattern! That has surprised me :)
I’ve not tried to tell my dh tooooo much about it. I mean he knows I do it(fast 5), but I don’t tell him that I consider allowing the kids to govern this more themselves rather than nagging them to eat. I just never figured the nagging someone to eat could be that healthy so I’ve always tried to avoid that......
chantelle
On 8/6/10 3:12 PM, "Heather Twist" <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL. My husband was the same way. Skipped most meals, then had this HUGE dinner plus dessert. And was always in great shape.
Then he married me ... and of course I made him great breakfasts, lunches, and dinners and made sure he stopped and ate. Made sure we had snacks in the car too. His "high metabolism" suddenly disappeared and he actually got a pot belly (gained 25 lbs).
After I started Fast-5, I stopped nagging him to eat, and now he eats one big meal a day again. And he dropped the 25 lbs. He eats cookies and ice cream daily (gluten free, in our case) and his bloodwork is perfect.
During all this, his activity level remained about the same. The emphasis on "activity" always surprises me: in our area there are a lot of people who do farming and ranching, and even with tractors etc, that is HARD work. And a lot of these people are really, really fat. One guy I know who works very hard, every day, and eats good organic food, had a quadrupal bypass last year, so activity didn't save his heart either.
I stopped nagging my daughter to eat too, and now she tends to pig out once a day also. She is slim and athletic: she was a big chunky at one point before this. I think if left to your own devices (and esp. if you have to do your own food making) the once-a-day meal becomes the norm.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM, susieq_az1 <susannauw2010@gmail.com> wrote:
I am always on the lookout for "diet" myth-busting comments in articles, and I ran across one today. I was reading Shape magazine (don't ask me why, because I always get annoyed by the nutrition advice -- I tend toward WAPF).
So, there is an interview with Jewel, who lost some weight a while back. She is married to rodeo cowboy Ty Murray (I don't know if he still competes).
So, she talks about her "healthy" diet which includes breakfast, lunch, and dinner, plus snacks. Then, the article says "you'd think Jewel's healthy habits would have rubbed off on Ty" but she says no, and that she finds it frustrating because he doesn't eat "healthy" but eats "like a college kid, skipping breakfast and having spicy, calorie-laden dishes like chiles rellenos for lunch, then a bowl of cereal for dinner." She says that someday he may have to watch what he eats, but for now "he's blessed with a high metabolism."
<<GRIN>> Sounds like a version of intermittent fasting to me. It never ceases to amaze me how entrenched the "healthy diet" mentality is, when the answer is right before our eyes. But people tend to consider proof of it a paradox, rather than the solution. Skipping meals is not only for the young and irresponsible. It's the right way to eat, and it may be why the young are often the slimmest segment of our population. I know both my young adult sons eat when they're hungry, and they are both slim, no matter WHAT they eat.
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