[fast5] Re: Question about lack of thirst

Hi, I'm new to the group. I noticed the lack to thirst too, I used to be a big water drinker,on IF I have to remind myself to drink water.

I seriously fell off the IF wagon nearly a month ago when a cold spell hit while I was doing a raw paleo IF WOE. First I stared eating cooked foods and then I moved to carbs, I swear it was the weather. I just did my first raw ish IF day yesterday and today I am fasting just fine. I'm guessing I needed to adjust to the cold.

Susan

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "wildduck_zaseuk" <wildduck@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).
>
> My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.
>
> So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).
>
> /Kirsten
>

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Re: [fast5](Linda E) Fast-5 and calorie restriction

I love how you put this!

> Let's put it this way: Being on a 1400 cals/day regimen is hard, BUT not as
> hard as if I had to consume only 1400 calories in three meals and a snack,
> as most people in the medical community insist that I should do. In sum, I
> eat one meal a day, from soup to dessert, and enjoy the hell out of it!
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Re: [fast5] Re: Question about lack of thirst

Thanks everyone for your replies, it does make sense and I feel a lot
happier now :)

/Kirsten

On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 01:02 +0000, grdmahelen wrote:
> I always ate 3 meals a day + snacks.. and drank water... tea or whatever
> and when I started ff 2 months ago drank instead of eating something..
> and now if I get hunger pains I drink something and then I'm fine...
> so I don't know about not drinking .. but if your not thirsty then I wouldn't
> drink...
>
> I don't get "hungry" any longer but I still have something to drink somewhere
> around me guess it's a habit and I don't know what to believe about the amount
> of fluid to take in or not... I do what feels good for me and what I like...
>
> Helen
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
> >
> > One of the reasons you need water is to process food. You have 30 feet
> > of gut, and when it is full of food, you need water to add with it
> > (the food gets watered down and made into a slurry). You need more
> > water when you eat packaged and processed food, because it is very
> > dry. Also, the food is often salty, and that causes you to retain more
> > water. And it makes your blood sugar go up, which (esp. if it goes up
> > too much) makes you more thirsty.
> >
> > So, I can think of several reasons offhand why thirst *might* go down.
> > And some more traditional fasters find they actually do better if they
> > drink less when they are not eating, for some reason. Drinking water
> > causes you to lose electrolytes and B vitamins, so there is likely
> > some kind of "sweet spot" that is the ideal liquid need for each
> > person. Probably, as with food, I'd go with what works for you. If you
> > feel hydrated (plenty of saliva and tears, no dry lips) and healthy,
> > then forcing yourself to drink doesn't strike me as a good idea. You
> > have a very good chemistry set built into your body, and if it thinks
> > you need water, it will let you know by making you thirsty (at least,
> > it will if it's working: Fast 5 tends to make it work better). I
> > usually keep some fresh water next to me as I work: if I feel thirsty,
> > then I'll drink it unconsciously. If there is no water nearby, I tend
> > to drink nothing but coffee, esp. at work places where the coffee pot
> > is near cubeland but water isn't. Then I feel sick by the end of the
> > day.
> >
> > I find my thirst level varies greatly depending on what I'm eating.
> > Sometimes I have zero interest in liquids: sometimes I drink a lot of
> > water and herb tea.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:53 PM, wildduck_zaseuk
> > <wildduck@...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).
> > >
> > > My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.
> > >
> > > So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).
> > >
> > > /Kirsten
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Heather Twist
> > http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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RE: [fast5] Re: Excited! (Helen)

Isnt that sad, Helen.....

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Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:34 AM
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Subject: [fast5] Re: Excited!

.. and they really don't want to hear why I believe it's good for me...

Helen

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RE: [fast5] Question about lack of thirst

I appreciate the great replies, Heather & Carolyn!

I used to drink lots of water during my fast but have found that slowing
down; what you've said makes sense!

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RE: [fast5] News article on Fast-5

This was a great article!

I'd love for those people (those who made comments at the bottom) to be in
our group!

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thentor
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:10 AM
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fast5] News article on Fast-5

My thanks to Jacksonville.com, Mary Maraghy and Doug Coleman for a news
story on Fast-5:

http://jacksonville.com/community/the_sun/2009-12-19/story/two_jacksonville_
doctors_create_new_weight_loss_plan

Those of you who want to tell friends and acquaintances about Fast-5 may
want to point to this link -- an unbiased journalist's take on it. Please
Digg, Buzz, Twitter, as you like.

Here's a shortened link for tweets:

http://bit.ly/6wZAqp

Regarding recipes -- as long as it relates to the Fast-5 lifestyle, there's
no problem with posting recipes. For recipes published elsewhere online, it
may be best to just include a link.

Thanks all,
Bert

Bert Herring
Fast-5 Corporation

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[fast5] Re: Question about lack of thirst

I always ate 3 meals a day + snacks.. and drank water... tea or whatever
and when I started ff 2 months ago drank instead of eating something..
and now if I get hunger pains I drink something and then I'm fine...
so I don't know about not drinking .. but if your not thirsty then I wouldn't
drink...

I don't get "hungry" any longer but I still have something to drink somewhere
around me guess it's a habit and I don't know what to believe about the amount
of fluid to take in or not... I do what feels good for me and what I like...

Helen

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> One of the reasons you need water is to process food. You have 30 feet
> of gut, and when it is full of food, you need water to add with it
> (the food gets watered down and made into a slurry). You need more
> water when you eat packaged and processed food, because it is very
> dry. Also, the food is often salty, and that causes you to retain more
> water. And it makes your blood sugar go up, which (esp. if it goes up
> too much) makes you more thirsty.
>
> So, I can think of several reasons offhand why thirst *might* go down.
> And some more traditional fasters find they actually do better if they
> drink less when they are not eating, for some reason. Drinking water
> causes you to lose electrolytes and B vitamins, so there is likely
> some kind of "sweet spot" that is the ideal liquid need for each
> person. Probably, as with food, I'd go with what works for you. If you
> feel hydrated (plenty of saliva and tears, no dry lips) and healthy,
> then forcing yourself to drink doesn't strike me as a good idea. You
> have a very good chemistry set built into your body, and if it thinks
> you need water, it will let you know by making you thirsty (at least,
> it will if it's working: Fast 5 tends to make it work better). I
> usually keep some fresh water next to me as I work: if I feel thirsty,
> then I'll drink it unconsciously. If there is no water nearby, I tend
> to drink nothing but coffee, esp. at work places where the coffee pot
> is near cubeland but water isn't. Then I feel sick by the end of the
> day.
>
> I find my thirst level varies greatly depending on what I'm eating.
> Sometimes I have zero interest in liquids: sometimes I drink a lot of
> water and herb tea.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:53 PM, wildduck_zaseuk
> <wildduck@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).
> >
> > My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.
> >
> > So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).
> >
> > /Kirsten
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>

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Re: [fast5] Question about lack of thirst

One of the reasons you need water is to process food. You have 30 feet
of gut, and when it is full of food, you need water to add with it
(the food gets watered down and made into a slurry). You need more
water when you eat packaged and processed food, because it is very
dry. Also, the food is often salty, and that causes you to retain more
water. And it makes your blood sugar go up, which (esp. if it goes up
too much) makes you more thirsty.

So, I can think of several reasons offhand why thirst *might* go down.
And some more traditional fasters find they actually do better if they
drink less when they are not eating, for some reason. Drinking water
causes you to lose electrolytes and B vitamins, so there is likely
some kind of "sweet spot" that is the ideal liquid need for each
person. Probably, as with food, I'd go with what works for you. If you
feel hydrated (plenty of saliva and tears, no dry lips) and healthy,
then forcing yourself to drink doesn't strike me as a good idea. You
have a very good chemistry set built into your body, and if it thinks
you need water, it will let you know by making you thirsty (at least,
it will if it's working: Fast 5 tends to make it work better). I
usually keep some fresh water next to me as I work: if I feel thirsty,
then I'll drink it unconsciously. If there is no water nearby, I tend
to drink nothing but coffee, esp. at work places where the coffee pot
is near cubeland but water isn't. Then I feel sick by the end of the
day.

I find my thirst level varies greatly depending on what I'm eating.
Sometimes I have zero interest in liquids: sometimes I drink a lot of
water and herb tea.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:53 PM, wildduck_zaseuk
<wildduck@wildduck.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).
>
> My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.
>
> So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).
>
> /Kirsten
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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[fast5] Re: Question about lack of thirst

I too have noticed a decrease in thirst. I used to force myself to drink lots and lots of water but then I was always looking for a bathroom. LOL I seem to do fine with drinking less water. I don't think we need the proverbial 8 glasses per day.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "wildduck_zaseuk" <wildduck@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).
>
> My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.
>
> So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).
>
> /Kirsten
>

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[fast5] Question about lack of thirst

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I recently adopted this WOE partly out of convenience (don't really have time during the day to stop for meals) and partly as a weight control device - I am not trying to lose weight, just keep it stable. I found out about, and read, the Fast5 book about a week ago, after I'd been eating like this for a few days (was doing some research to make sure I wasn't damaging myself).

My eating window is pretty much one hour around 6-7pm, just enough to have dinner with my family and eat a bit of dessert. I am not troubled with hunger during the day until about 4-5pm, and even then it is easily tolerable. What concerns me though is my complete lack of thirst. I have a mug of water first thing to take some medication, and then seldom feel the need for anything more until just before I eat, when I'll have a pint of very diluted fruit juice. Then another mug of water later on with bedtime medication. That's it. I've read all about not going by thirst and how you're supposed to drink water all day long to keep hydrated and what have you, but I can't stomach drinks if I'm not thirsty.

So, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed a decrease in thirst, I've been trying to find out more but come up with nothing.

Thanks in advance, and happy Christmas to you all (if you celebrate it).

/Kirsten

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[fast5] Re: Excited!

I'll wait a yr before I start telling people... then I can tell them my BSs are
down and so is my weight... and leave it at that...

These are friends that all.. except my brother.. have Diabetes and have
been told by their dr's to eat 4-6times a day... and think an A1c of 7
is doing good...

they don't understand why I eat so much saturated fat... I know they
won't understand why I eat only 5hrs in a day... and they really don't
want to hear why I believe it's good for me...

Helen

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "dnn8350" <david@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
> > > As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
> > > I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..
> > >
>
> The other option is to have the courage of your convictions and just tell them straightforwardly about your WOE. I've been doing this for years, and people either just accept it matter-of-factly or sometimes show real interest, and then an exchange of information ensues. Since I'm obviously doing well on it, it's hard for people to simply rubbish or dismiss.
>
> Surely this type of reaction isn't unique to England? There's certainly nothing to make excuses about!
>
> David
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Kirsteen Wright <kirsteen.falconsfan@> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
> > > As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
> > > I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..
> > >
> > > To be honest, I've always found breakfast the easiest meal to get away with
> > not eating. People seem to get very upset if you go to dinner with them and
> > don't eat but seem to easily accept my excuse of 'Sorry, I'm just not a
> > morning person, I can't face breakfast, I'll just have coffee'
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kirsteen
> >
>

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[fast5] (fasting) Re: News article on Fast-5

Isn't that the truth... and a good way of getting out of explaining...
and you probably eat more than she does too...

Helen

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>
> My 85-year-old Mom was horrified when she found out that I was
> only eating once a day. Then I told her: "What are you getting
> on about? YOU only eat once a day!". She stopped bugging
> me after that.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:42 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I hope she's not eating it all... most 86yr olds pretty much only
> > eat breakfast and very little later in the day... think it's kind of a natural
> > ff ? I hope that's what she's doing..
> >
> > How's the rehab going?  hope she does well and gets home soon..
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <laurvick@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >> > ... although , now that I'm doing it, I wish
> >> > someone would have told me it's possible... and a Great way of
> >> > living...<
> >>
> >> Helen - my 86-yo Mommy is in a nursing home right now (for rehab on her knee she just got replaced) and I wish I could convince her...
> >>
> >> Heck, convince the whole LOT of them!  My gosh, I just looked at the meal plans for this week and i cannot believe all the food they feed them!!!  I would be stuffed out of my eyeballs with all the food they feed the residents!  OY!
> >>
> >> ok.  off my Fast5 rant!  :-))
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[fast5] Re: Excited!

These people all know me for yrs.. my brother will be there too... and I have always
been a 3 meal a day person... so I'll eat something... just not much..
and low carb.. I haven't had a day break in at least 2 wks... so this one day isn't
going to hurt...

Helen

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> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
> > As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
> > I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..
> >
> > To be honest, I've always found breakfast the easiest meal to get away with
> not eating. People seem to get very upset if you go to dinner with them and
> don't eat but seem to easily accept my excuse of 'Sorry, I'm just not a
> morning person, I can't face breakfast, I'll just have coffee'
>
>
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Re: [fast5] (fasting) Re: News article on Fast-5

My 85-year-old Mom was horrified when she found out that I was
only eating once a day. Then I told her: "What are you getting
on about? YOU only eat once a day!". She stopped bugging
me after that.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:42 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I hope she's not eating it all... most 86yr olds pretty much only
> eat breakfast and very little later in the day... think it's kind of a natural
> ff ? I hope that's what she's doing..
>
> How's the rehab going?  hope she does well and gets home soon..
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <laurvick@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ---- grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > ... although , now that I'm doing it, I wish
>> > someone would have told me it's possible... and a Great way of
>> > living...<
>>
>> Helen - my 86-yo Mommy is in a nursing home right now (for rehab on her knee she just got replaced) and I wish I could convince her...
>>
>> Heck, convince the whole LOT of them!  My gosh, I just looked at the meal plans for this week and i cannot believe all the food they feed them!!!  I would be stuffed out of my eyeballs with all the food they feed the residents!  OY!
>>
>> ok.  off my Fast5 rant!  :-))
>>
>
>
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[fast5] Re: Excited!

> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
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> >
> > We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
> > As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
> > I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..
> >

The other option is to have the courage of your convictions and just tell them straightforwardly about your WOE. I've been doing this for years, and people either just accept it matter-of-factly or sometimes show real interest, and then an exchange of information ensues. Since I'm obviously doing well on it, it's hard for people to simply rubbish or dismiss.

Surely this type of reaction isn't unique to England? There's certainly nothing to make excuses about!

David

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> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
> > As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
> > I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..
> >
> > To be honest, I've always found breakfast the easiest meal to get away with
> not eating. People seem to get very upset if you go to dinner with them and
> don't eat but seem to easily accept my excuse of 'Sorry, I'm just not a
> morning person, I can't face breakfast, I'll just have coffee'
>
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
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Re: [fast5] Re: Excited!

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM, grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..

To be honest, I've always found breakfast the easiest meal to get away with not eating. People seem to get very upset if you go to dinner with them and don't eat but seem to easily accept my excuse of 'Sorry, I'm just not a morning person, I can't face breakfast, I'll just have coffee'


Cheers
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[fast5] (fasting) Re: News article on Fast-5

Well, I hope she's not eating it all... most 86yr olds pretty much only
eat breakfast and very little later in the day... think it's kind of a natural
ff ? I hope that's what she's doing..

How's the rehab going? hope she does well and gets home soon..

Helen

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <laurvick@...> wrote:
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>
> ---- grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > ... although , now that I'm doing it, I wish
> > someone would have told me it's possible... and a Great way of
> > living...<
>
> Helen - my 86-yo Mommy is in a nursing home right now (for rehab on her knee she just got replaced) and I wish I could convince her...
>
> Heck, convince the whole LOT of them! My gosh, I just looked at the meal plans for this week and i cannot believe all the food they feed them!!! I would be stuffed out of my eyeballs with all the food they feed the residents! OY!
>
> ok. off my Fast5 rant! :-))
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[fast5] Re: Excited!

That is Great news... let it know how it's going for you..
I've been doing ff for just 2 months and I love it...

We had to make plans with friends for Breakfast and I'm dreading it
As I said before no one but dh and my sister know I'm doing this...
I guess I'll eat.. can't sit there with 8 people and not eat something..

but then we're also invited for dinner at some of the same friends
that are going to be at breakfast.. I tried to get out of it but she really
wanted us to join them for dinner :( I want to go , she is a good friend
so I do want to go.. I'll just stick to protein as much as I can...

Helen

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> I started the Fast-5 last Tuesday and have lost 3 pounds. I am pretty amazed since over the years I have tried everything imaginable. This is working, I am not getting hungry or craving food like I was before!
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Re: [fast5] Excited!

---- sjmethvin <sjean1950@gmail.com> wrote:
>This is working, I am not getting hungry or craving food like I was before!
>

Fabulous!

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Re: [fast5] (fasting) Re: News article on Fast-5

---- grdmahelen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> ... although , now that I'm doing it, I wish
> someone would have told me it's possible... and a Great way of
> living...<

Helen - my 86-yo Mommy is in a nursing home right now (for rehab on her knee she just got replaced) and I wish I could convince her...

Heck, convince the whole LOT of them! My gosh, I just looked at the meal plans for this week and i cannot believe all the food they feed them!!! I would be stuffed out of my eyeballs with all the food they feed the residents! OY!

ok. off my Fast5 rant! :-))

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[fast5] Excited!

I started the Fast-5 last Tuesday and have lost 3 pounds. I am pretty amazed since over the years I have tried everything imaginable. This is working, I am not getting hungry or craving food like I was before!

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[fast5] Re: News article on Fast-5

I'm a retired Nurse and it Never crossed my mind... and that it would
even work.. Amazing to me.. that's one reason I wanted to hear what
others had to say about it... and joined the group...
I know what I would think (before I did it) if someone told me they
only ate once a day... although , now that I'm doing it, I wish
someone would have told me it's possible... and a Great way of
living...

Helen
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "dnn8350" <david@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Great piece! I know I shouldn't be, but I confess I'm still constantly surprised at how readily supposed "experts" pontificate purely on the basis of prejudice and lack of information. Aren't they curious? Or are they simply too nervous about appearing to buck "mainstream" views? Well done to those who posted such clear and informative rebuttals.
>
> David
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, grdmahelen <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is Wonderful news...
> >
> > I'm afraid to tell anyone what I'm doing .. other than low carb... that
> > does help when turning down food at the wrong time...
> > I did tell my sister and she Loved it and is doing it.. although she
> > did say she wasn't sticking to it so well with all the holiday stuff
> > going on.. .but she's planning to start it again after the holidays.
> >
> > I plan on keeping it going .. no need to stop doing it just because
> > of the holidays ... in fact it's a good thing to do so I can have whatever
> > treats are around that day... I bet I get a meal and don't have room
> > for too much junk...
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "thentor" <bherring@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My thanks to Jacksonville.com, Mary Maraghy and Doug Coleman for a news story on Fast-5:
> > >
> > > http://jacksonville.com/community/the_sun/2009-12-19/story/two_jacksonville_doctors_create_new_weight_loss_plan
> > >
> > > Those of you who want to tell friends and acquaintances about Fast-5 may want to point to this link -- an unbiased journalist's take on it. Please Digg, Buzz, Twitter, as you like.
> > >
> > > Here's a shortened link for tweets:
> > >
> > > http://bit.ly/6wZAqp
> > >
> > > Regarding recipes -- as long as it relates to the Fast-5 lifestyle, there's no problem with posting recipes. For recipes published elsewhere online, it may be best to just include a link.
> > >
> > > Thanks all,
> > > Bert
> > >
> > > Bert Herring
> > > Fast-5 Corporation
> > >
> >
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[fast5] Re: News article on Fast-5

Great piece! I know I shouldn't be, but I confess I'm still constantly surprised at how readily supposed "experts" pontificate purely on the basis of prejudice and lack of information. Aren't they curious? Or are they simply too nervous about appearing to buck "mainstream" views? Well done to those who posted such clear and informative rebuttals.

David

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, grdmahelen <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is Wonderful news...
>
> I'm afraid to tell anyone what I'm doing .. other than low carb... that
> does help when turning down food at the wrong time...
> I did tell my sister and she Loved it and is doing it.. although she
> did say she wasn't sticking to it so well with all the holiday stuff
> going on.. .but she's planning to start it again after the holidays.
>
> I plan on keeping it going .. no need to stop doing it just because
> of the holidays ... in fact it's a good thing to do so I can have whatever
> treats are around that day... I bet I get a meal and don't have room
> for too much junk...
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "thentor" <bherring@> wrote:
> >
> > My thanks to Jacksonville.com, Mary Maraghy and Doug Coleman for a news story on Fast-5:
> >
> > http://jacksonville.com/community/the_sun/2009-12-19/story/two_jacksonville_doctors_create_new_weight_loss_plan
> >
> > Those of you who want to tell friends and acquaintances about Fast-5 may want to point to this link -- an unbiased journalist's take on it. Please Digg, Buzz, Twitter, as you like.
> >
> > Here's a shortened link for tweets:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/6wZAqp
> >
> > Regarding recipes -- as long as it relates to the Fast-5 lifestyle, there's no problem with posting recipes. For recipes published elsewhere online, it may be best to just include a link.
> >
> > Thanks all,
> > Bert
> >
> > Bert Herring
> > Fast-5 Corporation
> >
>

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Re: [fast5](Linda E) Fast-5 and calorie restriction

Let's put it this way:  Being on a 1400 cals/day regimen is hard, BUT not as hard as if I had to consume only 1400 calories in three meals and a snack, as most people in the medical community insist that I should do.  In sum, I eat one meal a day, from soup to dessert, and enjoy the hell out of it!

Linda

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Karen <laurvick@charter.net> wrote:

 

thank you for the great report, Linda.

 

Almost three months on the plan.

 

How difficult has it been for you to be on 1400 cals/day?

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Subject: [fast5] Fast-5 and calorie restriction

I've been on Fast-5 since September, adhering strictly to the time window and to a limit of 1400 calories per 24-hour day. 

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thank you for the great report, Linda.

 

Almost three months on the plan.

 

How difficult has it been for you to be on 1400 cals/day?

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I've been on Fast-5 since September, adhering strictly to the time window and to a limit of 1400 calories per 24-hour day. 

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[fast5] Don't break the Chain

Thanks to the person who posted about the 'Dontbreakthechain.com' website.

I love this WOE and love the way I feel on it and all the energy I have etc. But I find that sometimes I fall back into old ways of eating and then get caught in that trap for days.

I checked out dontbreakthechain.com and found that the chance to color in my little square at the end of the day has been just the motivation I need on those days I have been tempted to break my fast early and for no good reason other than the food is there and available.

Whatever works is what I say. Now I am using that same motivator for other things that I want to do on a regular (even if not daily) basis. More power to those colorful squares.

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[fast5] Re: News article on Fast-5

This is Wonderful news...

I'm afraid to tell anyone what I'm doing .. other than low carb... that
does help when turning down food at the wrong time...
I did tell my sister and she Loved it and is doing it.. although she
did say she wasn't sticking to it so well with all the holiday stuff
going on.. .but she's planning to start it again after the holidays.

I plan on keeping it going .. no need to stop doing it just because
of the holidays ... in fact it's a good thing to do so I can have whatever
treats are around that day... I bet I get a meal and don't have room
for too much junk...

Helen

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>
> My thanks to Jacksonville.com, Mary Maraghy and Doug Coleman for a news story on Fast-5:
>
> http://jacksonville.com/community/the_sun/2009-12-19/story/two_jacksonville_doctors_create_new_weight_loss_plan
>
> Those of you who want to tell friends and acquaintances about Fast-5 may want to point to this link -- an unbiased journalist's take on it. Please Digg, Buzz, Twitter, as you like.
>
> Here's a shortened link for tweets:
>
> http://bit.ly/6wZAqp
>
> Regarding recipes -- as long as it relates to the Fast-5 lifestyle, there's no problem with posting recipes. For recipes published elsewhere online, it may be best to just include a link.
>
> Thanks all,
> Bert
>
> Bert Herring
> Fast-5 Corporation
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[fast5] Re: 1200 members

Thank you for your answer...
I'm getting by with ff for right now... I like the freedom too.. a lot

I love to eat a lot , and always have and doing ff I really have cut down
on what I do eat .. it's also a good way of eating for the holidays...and
not overeating... more than I do..
I'm concerned about my BS and am hoping the ff helps with the insulin
resistance .. I don't even lose with low carb , this week I've done as low
as 10carbs a day for 4 day and have seen the scale go down.. now
I'd like to see if stay there when I increase the number of carbs to 20...
only time will tell...

Helen
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "wallieg26" <wallieg26@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Helen,
>
> I can understand your frustration. I hate it when I ask questions (make phone calls, etc.) and I don't get a respond. I find that to be quite rude (although to be honest with you, I'm guilty of doing that myself). Most of the time, it's nothing personal.
>
> Have you written to the founder, Bert Herring, himself?
>
> I'm just re-connecting with this group. Have been away for awhile.
>
> I love the Fast 5 lifestyle, although it isn't always easy to do.
>
> It frees up so much time in my brain and in my life when I only have to think about eating during a 5 hour period. For me, that usually translates to 1 meal a day. I'm a "quantity eater", so one big meal usually does it for me.
>
> I never thought I could wait until 5:00 to start eating. My window usually starts at 1:00. 5:00 however, seems to work best since that's when I seem to "need" the food, emotionally, the most.
>
> Although weight is a concern, my primary focus right now is just to get back into the habit of the 5 hour window.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> I would try writing to individual members who post something in particular that interests you, and see if you get a response that way.
>
> Sincerely!
>
> wallie
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, grdmahelen <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I see how many members are in the group but hardly any have posted anything...
> > it would be nice for the new members to have some experienced people tell
> > us about their journey with Ff...
> >
> > We need to know how to make this WOE the best way to live and also to lose weight..
> > I've asked a few questions.. and haven't gotten any responses .. and I've made a few
> > statements about the way I'm doing this and also nothing..
> >
> > Are there any members here that has lost a lot of weight... or even 10 or 20lbs?
> > does this really work...
> >
> > I've been reading the posts from this group and haven't seen much ... I need help
> > to know if this is really going to work to get off 50lbs or more ... so far I haven't
> > seen it...
> >
> > Helen
> >
>

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[fast5] Fast-5 and calorie restriction

I've been on Fast-5 since September, adhering strictly to the time window and to a limit of 1400 calories per 24-hour day.  I am now beginning to see a difference in the mirror and in the size clothing I wear, not to mention in how I feel.  Less backache, easier to get up and walk around, etc.  Definitely a great diet plan, and one that I plan to stay on until I reach normal weight.

The medical profession hates this plan, but it works for me.   I say, you can't argue with success.

Linda in Amarillo

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM, hawaiifrycat <hawaiifrycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Thank you for the information Carolyn. I've just started fast5 (day 5 now). It's nice not having to stress out about what I can and can't eat during my five hours. However, I am trying to be sure I get all the proper nutrition. I'll check out The CR Way.

Aloha, Carla

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, kreibich@... wrote:
>
> The last paragraph of the article about Fast5 in the newspaper caught my
> attention. To address the 'eat anything' problem, one can look at the work
> done by the Calorie Restriction Society.
>
> There has been a lot of research for several years on calorie restriction.
> It extends the life of animals. The Calorie Restriction Society is
> collaborating with scientists at Washington University to learn more about
> CR effects in humans.
>
> Paul McGlothin & Mereith Averill have written a book titled The CR Way,
> published 2008. These two people eat their calories earlier in the day and
> then stop eating in the early afternoon... so they are actually using a
> form of Fast5. The subtitle of their book says "using the secrets of
> calorie restriction for a longer, healthier life."
>
> I keep their book handy and refer to it now and then. They list specific
> foods to eat. The whole idea of calorie restriction for improving your
> health is to have optimum nutrition. We do not want to just eat anything.
>
> Carolyn
>

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[fast5] Re: better nutrition

Thank you for the information Carolyn. I've just started fast5 (day 5 now). It's nice not having to stress out about what I can and can't eat during my five hours. However, I am trying to be sure I get all the proper nutrition. I'll check out The CR Way.

Aloha, Carla

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, kreibich@... wrote:
>
> The last paragraph of the article about Fast5 in the newspaper caught my
> attention. To address the 'eat anything' problem, one can look at the work
> done by the Calorie Restriction Society.
>
> There has been a lot of research for several years on calorie restriction.
> It extends the life of animals. The Calorie Restriction Society is
> collaborating with scientists at Washington University to learn more about
> CR effects in humans.
>
> Paul McGlothin & Mereith Averill have written a book titled The CR Way,
> published 2008. These two people eat their calories earlier in the day and
> then stop eating in the early afternoon... so they are actually using a
> form of Fast5. The subtitle of their book says "using the secrets of
> calorie restriction for a longer, healthier life."
>
> I keep their book handy and refer to it now and then. They list specific
> foods to eat. The whole idea of calorie restriction for improving your
> health is to have optimum nutrition. We do not want to just eat anything.
>
> Carolyn
>

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[fast5] better nutrition

The last paragraph of the article about Fast5 in the newspaper caught my
attention. To address the 'eat anything' problem, one can look at the work
done by the Calorie Restriction Society.

There has been a lot of research for several years on calorie restriction.
It extends the life of animals. The Calorie Restriction Society is
collaborating with scientists at Washington University to learn more about
CR effects in humans.

Paul McGlothin & Mereith Averill have written a book titled The CR Way,
published 2008. These two people eat their calories earlier in the day and
then stop eating in the early afternoon... so they are actually using a
form of Fast5. The subtitle of their book says "using the secrets of
calorie restriction for a longer, healthier life."

I keep their book handy and refer to it now and then. They list specific
foods to eat. The whole idea of calorie restriction for improving your
health is to have optimum nutrition. We do not want to just eat anything.

Carolyn

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[fast5] Re: Low energy on Fast-5

Well said, Ellen! I agree. :)

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Ellen Ussery <ellen.ussery@...> wrote:
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> Karen,
> >
>
> I think you have said it. At some point after we understand the principles
> others have investigated, it seems that each of us has our own metabolic
> quirks and we need to simply experiment and record in order to find our own
> variation on the theme that will work for us.
>
> Ellen
>
> >
> > I need to get the courage to do what those that have been successful here
> > have done and just 'jump off' and 'eat'.
> >
> >
> >
>

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[fast5] Re: 1200 members

Hi Kirsteen. I appreciate your post.

Eating one big meal a day, from apx. 1-2 p.m. has always worked best for my body, long before I found out about Fast 5. Until I found Bert's website, I thought I was the only one who felt this way.

When I eat early in the day, I can sleep way better at night, and I don't go to bed or wake up with a big bloated stomach.

Emotionally, however, the later hour works best for me.

Eating after work is when I'm the most drawn toward food.

Since I'm just coming back to the program, I'll think I'll try and stick to the 5 hour window first, no matter the time, and work on eating earlier after that.

I like the idea that you can change the window. On days that I'm willing to eat early, I will; if not, I won't. Takes the pressure off having to do this perfectly. :)

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Kirsteen Wright <kirsteen.falconsfan@...> wrote:
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> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM, carolyn_graff <zgraff@...> wrote:
>
> > I am a high raw eater. the majority of my diet is RAW dairy in various
> > forms (the high fat low carb forms). I eat some raw fruit. I eat a serving
> > of organ meat/day - cooked. usually liver.
> >
> >
> Hi Carolyn
>
> Where I live it's vitually impossible to get raw dairy products. I have in
> the past managed to get cheese made from raw milk at the local farmer's
> market but that one type is literally all that's available.
>
> My diet is mostly fruit and veg, some juiced, some in green smoothies,
> salads etc, some nuts and seeds VOO, VCO etc. I'm still having the very odd
> piece of meat or fish, maybe about once a week, but that's mainly to use up
> what's in the freeezer, 'cos I can't afford to throw it out.
>
> I'm also currently reading 'The Daylight Diet' by Paul Nison. He advocates
> only eating when the sun is up, not when it's dark. There's a lot of
> explanation about how our digestive sysytems work and how they slow down at
> night and how, during the night our stomach's should be empty to let the
> body heal itself. It's totally compatible with Fast5, just means moving my
> window earlier. Since my window was 5 - 10 and sunset at the moment here is
> about 3.30pm, I'm not there yet, I'm moving it gradually.
>
> I have to say, with eating earlier, I'm definitley sleeping better and I
> reckon after the solstice as sunset gets later and my window gets earlier,
> we should meet up at some point :-)
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
>

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[fast5] Re: 1200 members

Hi Helen,

I can understand your frustration. I hate it when I ask questions (make phone calls, etc.) and I don't get a respond. I find that to be quite rude (although to be honest with you, I'm guilty of doing that myself). Most of the time, it's nothing personal.

Have you written to the founder, Bert Herring, himself?

I'm just re-connecting with this group. Have been away for awhile.

I love the Fast 5 lifestyle, although it isn't always easy to do.

It frees up so much time in my brain and in my life when I only have to think about eating during a 5 hour period. For me, that usually translates to 1 meal a day. I'm a "quantity eater", so one big meal usually does it for me.

I never thought I could wait until 5:00 to start eating. My window usually starts at 1:00. 5:00 however, seems to work best since that's when I seem to "need" the food, emotionally, the most.

Although weight is a concern, my primary focus right now is just to get back into the habit of the 5 hour window.

Hope that helps.

I would try writing to individual members who post something in particular that interests you, and see if you get a response that way.

Sincerely!

wallie
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, grdmahelen <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> I see how many members are in the group but hardly any have posted anything...
> it would be nice for the new members to have some experienced people tell
> us about their journey with Ff...
>
> We need to know how to make this WOE the best way to live and also to lose weight..
> I've asked a few questions.. and haven't gotten any responses .. and I've made a few
> statements about the way I'm doing this and also nothing..
>
> Are there any members here that has lost a lot of weight... or even 10 or 20lbs?
> does this really work...
>
> I've been reading the posts from this group and haven't seen much ... I need help
> to know if this is really going to work to get off 50lbs or more ... so far I haven't
> seen it...
>
> Helen
>

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[fast5] News article on Fast-5

My thanks to Jacksonville.com, Mary Maraghy and Doug Coleman for a news story on Fast-5:

http://jacksonville.com/community/the_sun/2009-12-19/story/two_jacksonville_doctors_create_new_weight_loss_plan

Those of you who want to tell friends and acquaintances about Fast-5 may want to point to this link -- an unbiased journalist's take on it. Please Digg, Buzz, Twitter, as you like.

Here's a shortened link for tweets:

http://bit.ly/6wZAqp

Regarding recipes -- as long as it relates to the Fast-5 lifestyle, there's no problem with posting recipes. For recipes published elsewhere online, it may be best to just include a link.

Thanks all,
Bert

Bert Herring
Fast-5 Corporation

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