Sunday, January 31, 2010

RE: [fast5] Re: Coffee



 
 
I don't know about caffeine acting as either an appetite suppressant or activator in different people.  I would say that caffeine is certainly not something to be afraid of while you're dieting.  Most diet supplements have some form of caffeine (guarana and ma huang are other natural caffeine sources), and the reason for this is not just to 'amp you up,' but that from the research I've done, it appears that caffeine does assist in releasing fat into your blood stream, so it can be effective as an addition to weight loss.
 
As far as cortisol is concerned, sure - caffeine can impact cortisol levels.  However, again, from the research I've done that cortisol impact actually levels out and is much less of a factor for folks that take in caffeine regularly - but it's still a factor.
 
here's a very boring article for you (just read the abstract and you're probably good):
 
 
At the end of the day, I think it's really easy to overthink caffeine as some sort of magic answer, as if to either add it or remove it from your diet will suddenly make your body fat evaporate.  Personally I'd recommend exploring caffeine as a supplement to anyone who is exercising regularly (and I mean 'really exercising,' not a walk around the neighborhood), but I'm not a doctor and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice.   I think the answer is that just like almost everything else, it's just a thing with good points and not-so-good points, just like most everything else.  :-)
 
Regards,
Phil
 
(enjoying a great cup of freshly ground Peet's, by the way, LOL)

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Julie Armstrong <mxsjwl@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Julie Armstrong <mxsjwl@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [fast5] Re: Coffee
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:14 AM

 

Wow! Awesome information, I was just telling my husband the other morning I'm having a hard time with my morning coffee minus the cereal because it make me feel like I just took a diet pill.

Thanks

Jewel

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:24 AM
To: fast5@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Coffee

 

 

Yes, it can.

 

Caffeine is an appetite stimulant in some people and in others it is an appetite suppressant.  I can wreak havoc with your blood sugar levels, cortisol levels and increase insuline resistance.

 

When my aunt did Jenny Craig (the only time I've ever seen her thin) she was told no caffeine, but if she absolutely had to have coffee in the morning to wake up with, she could have ONE CUP - that's it!  They have since allowed up to two cups a day on Jenny Craig, but when my aunt did it, you could only have one first thing in the AM.  And it worked.  Once off of Jenny, she went back to her old ways and regained it all.

 

Other diets also recommend caffeine elimination or cut back: The Rotation Diet by Martin Katahn, The Fat Flush Plan by Ann Louise Gittleman; The Rosedale Diet by Ron Rosedale, M.D.; The Perricone Prescription by Nicholas Perricone, M.D.; and, almost every low carb diet on the market including Protein Power, and Atkins.

 

Caffeine releases cortisol which causes stored belly fat and higher appetite.  Caffeine causes blood sugar swings which causes hunger.  Caffeine can deplete serotonin which causes cravings for carbs (because the body uses carbs to make serotonin).  All of these factors will derail your diet. 

 

Those individuals for whom caffeine is an appetite suppressant (and if you're overweight, and pariticularly more than 30 pounds overweight, I can pretty much assure you you're not one of them), it releases adrenaline (which acts like an appetite suppressant diet pill).  This is more common in people who mix caffeine with other stimulants like diet pills or smoking (which can contain epinephin, synephrin, nicotine, etc.)  And no, I am not recommending you take diet pills or take up smoking.  Those can cause more problems than they solve.   

 

But for most overweight people, caffeine, or exess caffeine, is devinitely a no-no. 

 

Try gradually cutting back to just one cup of coffee in the morning and see what happens . . . .

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scaramouche <scaramouche_ 54@yahoo. com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 3:17 am
Subject: [fast5] Re: Coffee

 


I feel better with coffee, too. Does it provoke an insulin reaction?

Paul

--- In fast5@yahoogroups. com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from
49th parallel.
> i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied,
no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last
throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i
push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something,
then my body wakes up.
of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here:
http://www.folgers. com/products/ gourmet-selectio ns/brazilian- sunrise/ind\
ex.aspx
)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.

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Wow! Awesome information, I was just telling my husband the other morning I'm having a hard time with my morning coffee minus the cereal because it make me feel like I just took a diet pill.

Thanks

Jewel

 

From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lovellsjl@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:24 AM
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Coffee

 

 

Yes, it can.

 

Caffeine is an appetite stimulant in some people and in others it is an appetite suppressant.  I can wreak havoc with your blood sugar levels, cortisol levels and increase insuline resistance.

 

When my aunt did Jenny Craig (the only time I've ever seen her thin) she was told no caffeine, but if she absolutely had to have coffee in the morning to wake up with, she could have ONE CUP - that's it!  They have since allowed up to two cups a day on Jenny Craig, but when my aunt did it, you could only have one first thing in the AM.  And it worked.  Once off of Jenny, she went back to her old ways and regained it all.

 

Other diets also recommend caffeine elimination or cut back: The Rotation Diet by Martin Katahn, The Fat Flush Plan by Ann Louise Gittleman; The Rosedale Diet by Ron Rosedale, M.D.; The Perricone Prescription by Nicholas Perricone, M.D.; and, almost every low carb diet on the market including Protein Power, and Atkins.

 

Caffeine releases cortisol which causes stored belly fat and higher appetite.  Caffeine causes blood sugar swings which causes hunger.  Caffeine can deplete serotonin which causes cravings for carbs (because the body uses carbs to make serotonin).  All of these factors will derail your diet. 

 

Those individuals for whom caffeine is an appetite suppressant (and if you're overweight, and pariticularly more than 30 pounds overweight, I can pretty much assure you you're not one of them), it releases adrenaline (which acts like an appetite suppressant diet pill).  This is more common in people who mix caffeine with other stimulants like diet pills or smoking (which can contain epinephin, synephrin, nicotine, etc.)  And no, I am not recommending you take diet pills or take up smoking.  Those can cause more problems than they solve.   

 

But for most overweight people, caffeine, or exess caffeine, is devinitely a no-no. 

 

Try gradually cutting back to just one cup of coffee in the morning and see what happens . . . .

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scaramouche <scaramouche_54@yahoo.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 3:17 am
Subject: [fast5] Re: Coffee

 


I feel better with coffee, too. Does it provoke an insulin reaction?

Paul

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@...> wrote:
>
>
> i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from
49th parallel.
> i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied,
no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last
throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i
push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something,
then my body wakes up.
of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here:
http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/ind\
ex.aspx
)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.

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Re: [fast5] Re: Coffee



Yes, it can.
 
Caffeine is an appetite stimulant in some people and in others it is an appetite suppressant.  I can wreak havoc with your blood sugar levels, cortisol levels and increase insuline resistance.
 
When my aunt did Jenny Craig (the only time I've ever seen her thin) she was told no caffeine, but if she absolutely had to have coffee in the morning to wake up with, she could have ONE CUP - that's it!  They have since allowed up to two cups a day on Jenny Craig, but when my aunt did it, you could only have one first thing in the AM.  And it worked.  Once off of Jenny, she went back to her old ways and regained it all.
 
Other diets also recommend caffeine elimination or cut back: The Rotation Diet by Martin Katahn, The Fat Flush Plan by Ann Louise Gittleman; The Rosedale Diet by Ron Rosedale, M.D.; The Perricone Prescription by Nicholas Perricone, M.D.; and, almost every low carb diet on the market including Protein Power, and Atkins.
 
Caffeine releases cortisol which causes stored belly fat and higher appetite.  Caffeine causes blood sugar swings which causes hunger.  Caffeine can deplete serotonin which causes cravings for carbs (because the body uses carbs to make serotonin).  All of these factors will derail your diet. 
 
Those individuals for whom caffeine is an appetite suppressant (and if you're overweight, and pariticularly more than 30 pounds overweight, I can pretty much assure you you're not one of them), it releases adrenaline (which acts like an appetite suppressant diet pill).  This is more common in people who mix caffeine with other stimulants like diet pills or smoking (which can contain epinephin, synephrin, nicotine, etc.)  And no, I am not recommending you take diet pills or take up smoking.  Those can cause more problems than they solve.   
 
But for most overweight people, caffeine, or exess caffeine, is devinitely a no-no. 
 
Try gradually cutting back to just one cup of coffee in the morning and see what happens . . . .
 
Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: Scaramouche <scaramouche_54@yahoo.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 3:17 am
Subject: [fast5] Re: Coffee

 

I feel better with coffee, too. Does it provoke an insulin reaction?

Paul

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@...> wrote:
>
>
> i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from
49th parallel.
> i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied,
no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last
throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i
push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something,
then my body wakes up.
of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here:
http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/ind\
ex.aspx
)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.



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Re: [fast5] Hey, new here and have a question.



Hi Sarah:
 
I have been on Fast5 since early December, and I haven't noticed the weird breath. I have lost only 9 pounds, but I have been able to do with with chewing gum and having a cup of coffee with cream in the morning. I am sure the weightloss would be quicker if I avoided those things, but, alas, I am addicted to minty gum. Maybe that's why I don't notice any weird breath! Anyway, you have to try what works for you. Each one of us on this forum tweaks this WOE until it works just right for him. That is the beauty of this, among so many other things! Good luck to you. It is a very freeing way to eat.
 
Eileen


From: sarahs <essbee0101@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 3:28:48 PM
Subject: [fast5] Hey, new here and have a question.

 

I have been thinking about fast 5 for over a year and I have finally decided to do it. I have one concern. I searched for this here in the forum so I apologize if it has been covered.

I am very afraid of "Ketone breath"....it was horrible for my father and I when we were on Atkins. Now I am a nurse and have very fragile patients. I really cannot be close to them with caca breath. :P

Do you notice bad breath? If so has it gone away after time?

I really love this forum and have read your posts for ages.

Thanks for your help!




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[fast5] Re: breaking my plateau

the first thing that pops into my mind is increase your metabolism. make sure you get enough sleep which affects your metabolism. increase your excersices to 4 X per wk instead of 2. webMD says: "Go fish. EPA and DHA, the omega-3 fatty acids found only in fish oil, may have the power to dramatically boost your metabolism -- by about 400 calories per day, researchers from the University of Western Ontario report. Fish oil increases levels of fat-burning enzymes and decreases levels of fat-storage enzymes in your body. For the best metabolism boosting benefit, choose capsules containing at least 300 milligrams of EPA and DHA total". good luck!

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@...> wrote:
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> hey everyone
> i was wondering what you would suggest to break a plateau?
> i've pretty much gotten used to the fast 5 way of life. i eat around 900 calories a day, 1200 max on days i get a bit more hungry. i'm 5' 7", stabilized at around 145 lbs and want to lost about 5 more. i exercise twice a week for about an hour and a half but i still have a layer of, perhaps because of winter!, blubber that i'd like to get rid of. i pretty much keep to the 5 hour fast about 6 days of the week and my daily diet consists of majority protein/fat in the form of meat or eggs, some whole grain carbs and fruits. does anyone have any tips?
> anything would be greatly appreciated!
>


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[fast5] Developing a sweet tooth

Starting my third week of FF. Fell off the wagon for two days last week, but got right back on. However, something a bit strange is happening. I'm developing a sweet tooth. This is strange for me because I've really never liked sweets and rarely ate desserts. Would much rather go for fries than cake, for example. But for the last week or so I head straight for sugary fruit, chocolate or some candy as soon as my eating window opens. It's only after scarfing down a banana with chocolate sauce or a handful of M&Ms that I can even think about eating protein or fat. I've been invited to dinner a few times since starting FF and ate dessert with great enjoyment.

Now, I'm not "bingeing" in the normal sense, but it sure feels like it. Not too worried, but this does represent a sea change for a die-hard low-carber. I've even taken to stocking up on apples, dates, bananas and Nesquik to break my fast. I'm also *ravenous* when my eating window opens and very often eat sugary stuff just as fast as I can work my jaws before the weakness and shakes subside.

This is probably my body's reaction to being relatively "carb-starved" for years. Even when I was a runner, I never carb loaded, but always depended on--and craved--protein and fat. Heavy weight lifting might have something to do with my new tastes, too. My weight's still dropping normally, so I'll just ride out this sweet tooth period. Hope it's just a phase.

Anyone else experiencing abnormal (for you) cravings?

Paul

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[fast5] Anyone use LiveJournal?

Just wondering, more or less.
I love reading about others success and whatnot on IF~<3

On another note, to all those LJ-users.
I found a community (admittedly, barren) for a 'Fast-Five' Community.

http://community.livejournal.com/fastfive/profile

Hopefully with a bit of promotion, the support-community could be active~<3

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Saturday, January 30, 2010

Re: [fast5] breaking my plateau

For me what helped was going on a "low iron" diet. I.e., no
iron-fortified foods, and eating more fish rather than beef. And no
molasses. I am not sure exactly why this helps, but people with higher
ferritin levels seem to not process glucose as well as those with
lower ferritin levels, so that might be a clue. Or it may be that
eating fish helps. If you look at obesity by country, the countries
that eat the most beef/pork/mutton are the fattest, and the
fish-eaters are the skinniest. Dr. Eades mentions the iron issue in
"Protein Power", and also recommends donating blood.


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM, im4p5yc0 <sharkbait88@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey everyone
> i was wondering what you would suggest to break a plateau?
> i've pretty much gotten used to the fast 5 way of life. i eat around 900 calories a day, 1200 max on days i get a bit more hungry. i'm 5' 7", stabilized at around 145 lbs and want to lost about 5 more.  i exercise twice a week for about an hour and a half but i still have a layer of, perhaps because of winter!, blubber that i'd like to get rid of. i pretty much keep to the 5 hour fast about 6 days of the week and my daily diet consists of majority protein/fat in the form of meat or eggs, some whole grain carbs and fruits.  does anyone have any tips?
> anything would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
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RE: [fast5] breaking my plateau

Congrats!

You'll probably have to go to weight training/body building sites and read
up on 'how to lose those last 5 lbs' articles...

I'd also say that 900 calories is very low....

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RE: [fast5] Re: Coffee (pumpkin - French press)

Check Amazon...

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Oh a French Press. You know my friend has one of those. Where can I buy
one?

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[fast5] breaking my plateau

hey everyone
i was wondering what you would suggest to break a plateau?
i've pretty much gotten used to the fast 5 way of life. i eat around 900 calories a day, 1200 max on days i get a bit more hungry. i'm 5' 7", stabilized at around 145 lbs and want to lost about 5 more. i exercise twice a week for about an hour and a half but i still have a layer of, perhaps because of winter!, blubber that i'd like to get rid of. i pretty much keep to the 5 hour fast about 6 days of the week and my daily diet consists of majority protein/fat in the form of meat or eggs, some whole grain carbs and fruits. does anyone have any tips?
anything would be greatly appreciated!

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[fast5] Re: Coffee

you can get them anywhere kitchen supplies are sold, i know that amazon.com sells them, ebay has them, they're not too hard to find.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Pumpkin" <felisha.butler@...> wrote:
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> Oh a French Press. You know my friend has one of those. Where can I buy one?
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from 49th parallel.
> > i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied, no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something, then my body wakes up.
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Pumpkin" <felisha.butler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I just had to ask what are your favorite brands or types of coffee? I'm new to the fast-five diet and find that coffee helps to get me through the first 8-hours of my day. I am just now realizing that coffee tastes wonderful black without anything added to it. I used to like adding heavy creams and sweet flavorings to my morning cup but I actually like it without anything added to it. I like to drink a couple of cups of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here: http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/index.aspx)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.
> > >
> >
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[fast5] Re: Coffee

Oh a French Press. You know my friend has one of those. Where can I buy one?

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "im4p5yc0" <sharkbait88@...> wrote:
>
>
> i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from 49th parallel.
> i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied, no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something, then my body wakes up.
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Pumpkin" <felisha.butler@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I just had to ask what are your favorite brands or types of coffee? I'm new to the fast-five diet and find that coffee helps to get me through the first 8-hours of my day. I am just now realizing that coffee tastes wonderful black without anything added to it. I used to like adding heavy creams and sweet flavorings to my morning cup but I actually like it without anything added to it. I like to drink a couple of cups of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here: http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/index.aspx)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.
> >
>


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Re: [fast5] I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet



I'm aplying for the emai buddy for fast five diet. Starting today too. my window will be from 12 to 5pm. I have 33KG get rid off. twice as much as you. I'm a 48 yo mother of 2 teens. le'ts do it together....

my name is Regina and I live in the south of Brazil. I seak english and french, besides portuguese which is my native language. I've read the book last setember, i1m reading it again and ready to REstar. last year i've done 3 weeks, but didn't get usedd to the 5-10pm window. i went to bed too full. let's try this new window... hope to hear from you buddy


Regina


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I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet. I just started today, pushed my "break-fast" to 2:30, and hope to move back 30 more minutes a day till I reach 5:00. I have about 33 pounds to lose and am a 36 yo mother of 4.




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[fast5] Re: Coffee

I feel better with coffee, too. Does it provoke an insulin reaction?

Paul


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>
> i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from
49th parallel.
> i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied,
no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last
throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i
push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something,
then my body wakes up.
of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here:
http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/ind\
ex.aspx)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.

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[fast5] Re: Coffee

i personally like making my coffee with my french press, coffee from 49th parallel.
i agree, the days i do drink coffee, my hunger is very well satisfied, no problems at all, and i feel like i have enough energy to last throughout the day, vs the ones that i dont, kinda feel weak until i push through the first hurdle of running up the stairs or something, then my body wakes up.
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Pumpkin" <felisha.butler@...> wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I just had to ask what are your favorite brands or types of coffee? I'm new to the fast-five diet and find that coffee helps to get me through the first 8-hours of my day. I am just now realizing that coffee tastes wonderful black without anything added to it. I used to like adding heavy creams and sweet flavorings to my morning cup but I actually like it without anything added to it. I like to drink a couple of cups of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here: http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/index.aspx)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.
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[fast5] Re: Too fast?

Thank your for your reply and kind advice.

My weight is not reducing as fast as I worried.
It is stabilized around 165 lbs.

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> From my experience of BIA, instant estimates (and don't forget that's what
> they are) of proportions of fat, fat-free mass, and bone are affected too
> much by water levels, gut contents, etc. to be reliable over the short
> term. If you're not convinced of this, just try weighing yourself at
> different times of day - e.g. before and after eating - or have a couple of
> glasses of water and then weigh yourself again.
>
> The best way to use BIA is not to record measurements too frequently, but
> select a longer period (a month would probably be best). Then take a
> measurement at the same time of day (e.g. after rising), for two or three
> days and take the average to be the estimate for that period. Even then,
> it's not the absolute values that really matter, but the change over time.
> Again, don't forget the common-sense guidelines of how, for example, your
> waist measurements (mainly fat) are changing relative to, say, your arm or
> leg size (more muscle).
>
> It's probable that some of your initial weight loss relates to hydration and
> other factors like gut contents, because every pound of genuine fat-loss has
> to be "paid for" by 3500 fewer calories absorbed. Thus consistent speed of
> fat-loss is basically going to be proportionate to overall calorie balance,
> and you could do some simple calculations on this to reassure yourself that
> you're not overdoing it. It doesn't sound as if you're expending an
> inordinate amount of calories on exercise, so just make sure that you don't
> reduce your food intake more than 500-750 calories per day, which with a bit
> of exercise will probably result in 4-8 lbs loss per month over the longer
> haul, mostly from fat reserves.
>
> David
>
> 2010/1/28 kimseunghoon <kimseunghoon@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Two weeks passed after I started fast-5.
> >
> > I lost about 11 pounds, and it seems that
> > more than half of the lost weight are fat.
> > After one week, I lost 3.5 lbs of fat and 1.3 lbs
> > of muscle according to body composition measurement via BIA.
> >
> > I didn't have much difficulty in fasting and no dizziness, headache.
> > But I'm afraid of the speed of losing weight. Is it too fast?
> > Or is it normal?
> >
> > Before I started fast-5, my weight was 176 lbs (5ft.6in height).
> > I do low intensity of weight lifting 3 times a week (no cardio).
> > During the eating window, I usually take one meal, some snacks
> > (fruits, milk, sometimes protein powder), and supplements
> > (Omega-3, vitamin).
> >
> >
> >
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[fast5] Re: Carbs

Thanks everyone for answering my question. I really appreciate it :)

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> Hi everyone,
>
> I have with F5 since November and I have lost 40 pounds so far. I F5 with 75% raw food diet, and I am beginning to incorporate exercise.
>
> I started with low carb with the raw foods but I felt so blah. Tired. Irritable. Moody. Then I started craving bread...pasta...etc. Now I have added more carbs and am feeling alot better.
>
> I was wondering if it was normal to crave carbs with F5?
>
> Thanks!
> Rita
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[fast5] Coffee

Hello everyone,

I just had to ask what are your favorite brands or types of coffee? I'm new to the fast-five diet and find that coffee helps to get me through the first 8-hours of my day. I am just now realizing that coffee tastes wonderful black without anything added to it. I used to like adding heavy creams and sweet flavorings to my morning cup but I actually like it without anything added to it. I like to drink a couple of cups of the new Folgers Gourmet Coffee (found here: http://www.folgers.com/products/gourmet-selections/brazilian-sunrise/index.aspx)in the mid-morning or mid-afternoon.

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[fast5] Re: Hiya all~ I'm new to the Fast-5 Lifestyle.

Hi, Carolyn~!

Thanks so much for the article, (I received it through my mail, the other day-- meant to reply back, but typically me... I got distracted)

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "carolyn_graff" <zgraff@...> wrote:
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> this article on PCOS might help
> http://www.westonaprice.org/Polycystic-Ovarian-Syndrome-PCOS.html
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[fast5] Re: I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet

Hiya~!
That sounds like a really good idea, and if you'd like. I'd love to be your email buddy~<3

I started 'cold-turkey', 5pm-10pm... and estimation wise, (I'm not exactly certain, because I avoid weighing myself and I'm trying to focus more on the health/energy benefits) 30 pounds or so.

I'm 21 years old, gained weight more or less due to inactivity due to surgery for Cysts. I have PCOS.

Hope to hear from you~!

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> I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet. I just started today, pushed my "break-fast" to 2:30, and hope to move back 30 more minutes a day till I reach 5:00. I have about 33 pounds to lose and am a 36 yo mother of 4.
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[fast5] I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet

I'm looking for an email buddy for the fast five diet. I just started today, pushed my "break-fast" to 2:30, and hope to move back 30 more minutes a day till I reach 5:00. I have about 33 pounds to lose and am a 36 yo mother of 4.

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RE: [fast5] Hey, new here and have a question.

I wouldn't think that just fasting would cause ketone breath. Cutting
carbs very low might cause that.

So if you're not cutting carbs when you eat, I doubt you'd be in ketosis.

(and on another group I'm on, it was suggested to beef up on the tooth
brushing and flossing and be mindful of the tongue IF you find you've got
ketone breath)

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I am very afraid of "Ketone breath"...

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[fast5] Re: Carbs

Congratulations on your weight loss. I'm new to F5 and I am hoping it will help me lose about 30 lbs. Your story gives me encouragement.

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> Hi everyone,
>
> I have with F5 since November and I have lost 40 pounds so far. I F5 with 75% raw food diet, and I am beginning to incorporate exercise.
>
> I started with low carb with the raw foods but I felt so blah. Tired. Irritable. Moody. Then I started craving bread...pasta...etc. Now I have added more carbs and am feeling alot better.
>
> I was wondering if it was normal to crave carbs with F5?
>
> Thanks!
> Rita
>


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[fast5] Hey, new here and have a question.

I have been thinking about fast 5 for over a year and I have finally decided to do it. I have one concern. I searched for this here in the forum so I apologize if it has been covered.

I am very afraid of "Ketone breath"....it was horrible for my father and I when we were on Atkins. Now I am a nurse and have very fragile patients. I really cannot be close to them with caca breath. :P

Do you notice bad breath? If so has it gone away after time?

I really love this forum and have read your posts for ages.


Thanks for your help!

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Re: [fast5] Carbs

My own belief is that F5 will allow you to listen to your body more.
You have a really sensitive chemistry lab built into your body, and a
whole lot of nerve cells in your gut and brain that are there JUST to
communicate to you what you need to eat. By the time those signals
reach your consciousness, you feel them as "I crave this" or "I hate
this food". But if the system is working correctly, it has amazing
control over weight, and in healthy animals and healthy humans, weight
doesn't fluctuate much even when there are lots of different foods
around.

It might be that your body really wants or needs carbs. I know my
athletic daughter really NEEDS her carbs after a hard workout. She has
very low bodyfat. But as Pat said, you body, and esp. your brain,
burns a lot of glucose. It's designed to do that. Your cells live on
glucose and fat ... under most circumstances it uses more fat than
glucose, but it depends on the circumstances. Your brain only eats
glucose.

Now, on a very low carb diet, your body CAN use ketones instead of
glucose. However, that is an abnormal state. Humans and animals that
never get many carbs, learn to create glucose from protein. So they
still burn a fair amount of glucose. Your average Inuit or mountain
lion doesn't need carbs, because they can create their own glucose.

Most humans on earth though, eat a fair bit of starchy foods. They do
not get fat off starchy foods, or at least, they didn't until very
recently. You have most of Asia, where the bulk of the diet is rice.
But they are skinny and not prone to diabetes. You have much of
Africa, where people live mainly off yams and millet. Again,
overweight was rare until more recent times, when they started getting
"Western" food. There is something about our "Western" food that
causes overweight, but it's probably not "carbs" per se. From my
reading and experimenting, I'm guessing it has to do with either the
gluten in wheat, or the iron-fortification of foods, or some
combination of the two.

Bottom line? I wouldn't worry about it. If you are losing weight at
the rate you want, just do what feels good. If you reach a plateau,
experiment with different foods.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Rita <theroseawakens@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have with F5 since November and I have lost 40 pounds so far. I F5 with 75% raw food diet, and I am beginning to incorporate exercise.
>
> I started with low carb with the raw foods but I felt so blah. Tired. Irritable. Moody. Then I started craving bread...pasta...etc. Now I have added more carbs and am feeling alot better.
>
> I was wondering if it was normal to crave carbs with F5?
>
> Thanks!
> Rita
>
>
>


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[fast5] Re: Hiya all~ I'm new to the Fast-5 Lifestyle.

this article on PCOS might help
http://www.westonaprice.org/Polycystic-Ovarian-Syndrome-PCOS.html

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "afwitmer" <afwitmer@...> wrote:
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> Hi, Welcome!
>
> I also have PCOS and I am herbsgirl on the SoulCyster site. I posted the thread there in case anyone would be interested!
>
> Today is day #9 for me and it is going pretty good for me. I am still holding out at a 7# loss. This is helping me have lots of energy, clear mind, my cravings have pretty much diminished for sugary stuff and carbs when I am fasting. Also, this diet is easy to do! The fasting part is amazingly easier than you think. Zero food is easier to do than trying to figure out all the calories and have temptations all day!
>
> My depression has lifted some too! I have been singing as I go about my work during the day! Other poeple have said on here that they do more "decluttering" and/or "cleaning up" in there house while being on fast-5!
>
> Keep us updated!
>
> ~Amanda
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "balloonheartednojutsu" <randomized.ification@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I thought I'd introduce myself... So don't mind me~
> > I'm a 21 year old female, about 5'11" and currently overweight-ish.
> > I came across the 'Fast-5' due to browsing 'Soulcyster' forums more or less the 'Diet' section, even though I've never really been into the whole diet thing...
> >
> > Counting Points? Calories? ..Weighing myself Daily!? No.. thanks. I've always found it a waste of time and effort.. and quite frankly-- too me, it's depressing.
> >
> > What's even more depressing is, I've been diagnosed with PCOS and had surgery last November. (My third) hence I found myself on the 'Soulcyster' Forum.. and thus I found the Fast-5.
> >
> > Reading the PDF, something really clicked. It made alot of sense. I've really despised eating breakfast, at most I can handle a drink of water or a fresh hot cup of tea (Fruit/ or Herbal) but as for food... It just doesn't sit well with me and in the end, I'd just feel more tired and lazy... and considering in this day and age, you're expected to eat breakfast. I really forced myself to eat at least something and in the end, ...I'd be suffering.
> >
> > But today, was my first day. I had one cup of Lemon and Ginger, with an apple twist fruit tea and the occasional glass of water. (I love my water) and I felt incredibly good. Uplifted spirits, boundless energy... and it hadn't even hit lunch time. Of course... I did experience the slight hunger pangs-- later on but considering my good mood. It was easy to just not concentrate on it.
> >
> > Once my 5 hour window came by, I wasn't even the least hungry till around Seven... and then I feasted, I don't think I've appreciated my meal like that before... savoring the taste.
> >
> > Pure Bliss, and it wasn't a big meal either! ( But I'm a slow-- Distracted eater)
> >
> > I think I've rambled on quite enough, but considering the euphoric effect-- I experienced. I think I'm going to enjoy this change of Life-Style.. although I'm not expecting immediate results (hence I won't forever be weighing myself)
> >
> > But if my clothes get looser in the next three months, I won't be complaining~<3
> >
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[fast5] Re: David - muscles/glycogen - was: Hitting the wall

Karen

Since you asked about links, here's one to what seems quite a comprehensive and informed site on the science of low-carb, by an enthusiast with a PhD. Having skimmed it, it does seem that adequate energy for both aerobic and anaerobic activity can be derived from a low-carb, medium protein and high-fat diet - as one would expect from historic human eating patterns - but that there is a definite process of physiological adaptation to get to that point from a more typical Western higher-carb regime. During adaptation one would indeed expect there to be temporary issues with exercise performance and general feelings of well-being. Only the individual can decide if that is indeed where they want to get to, and how to cope with the adaptation process in the interim,

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fat-not-protein.html

See what you think.

David

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <laurvick@...> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
>
> >>I've had a thought about your comment re feeling light-headed, as you say
> you also did when low-carbing, and your feeling of weakness when working
> out. I wonder if your muscles aren't (yet) storing enough glycogen to power
> your strenuous workouts adequately? You probably need more adaptation time
> to give your muscles the strong hint that they need to suck it up when you
> make it available in your window, but you might also consider upping your
> carbs a bit, at least for a while, to see if this has any effect. I do
> sometimes wonder whether the low-carb approach is best when there is a high
> level of daily demand for muscle glycogen - we know that racing cyclists and
> others who need both endurance and burst strength tend to load up on carbs
> prior to strenuous efforts.<<
>
> David - I feel this is exactly what I am currently dealing with!
>
> My story:
>
> Been on this wellness journey for over 6 yrs, doing heavy weight lifting (4
> X/wk) and 'many' diets to try to shed this last bit of fat off my body (last
> time I measured, I was at 18% body fat).
>
> Have been working out fasted for well over a year (thanks, Burt!), but
> usually only 10 hrs as I WO at 6am and my last meal is usually around 7pm.
>
> In August, I chose to start eating low carb, high fat, simply because I was
> tired of being hungry all the time (if I dare broke my fast w/carbs, I was a
> goner!) (thanks, Ellen & Carolyn!).
>
> Mid September, I discovered I had above-normal blood sugars.
>
> I stopped using Fast5 in an effort to get this new WOE under my belt and to
> regulate my blood sugars.
>
> I stopped my 4X/wk weight training in mid-October and switched over to a
> "Slow Burn" style of lifting (work out once every 7-10 days) I got about 6
> work outs in before I realized I needed to quit because of a shoulder
> injury. I was not in the gym for 6 wks.
>
> 2 wks ago, I went back to the 4X/wk weight training. Eating HFLC (less than
> 25g Carbs daily), my blood sugars have come down nicely. The first week
> back to training, they went high, then crashed low (122/77). I was
> initially consuming a glucose food post-WO, then, after a week of weight
> lifting, got brave and cut that out and just had my 20g protein/4g carb
> shake. The first day, I was fine! No hunger for over 5 hrs! But I
> couldn't duplicate it! The next time (this Monday), I had the same protein
> shake post-WO and was hungry an hour later and had another half a shake. I
> got the nibbles all day (and my blood sugars were higher than usual: 98).
> Tuesday, I had the larger protein shake but then got this weak/wobbly
> feeling within an hour. Desparate, I cooked up and ate 70g of sweet potato
> (loaded w/butter). I just couldn't attain the 'satisfied' feeling all day!
> I ate nuts and cheese (anything quick at hand) to try to get that satisfied
> feeling. I finally gave in to tortilla chips.
>
> I just read "somewhere on the 'net" one guy consuming his daily alottment of
> carbs in his post-WO meal.
>
> I feel that my workouts are depleting my stored glycogen and I'm getting
> mixed messages on whether I need to replenish that or not.
>
> But I can't function with that weak/woggy feeling so need to know which
> steps to take.... Do you have some links for me to read to help?
>


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[fast5] Request for Success Stories - 100+ pounds

Greetings,

A writer for FIRST magazine is seeking diet-without-surgery success stories of women who have lost 100+ pounds.

If you are female and have lost 100 or more pounds (either using Fast-5 or a combination of something else with Fast-5) and are willing to share your story (and pictures) please send me before & after pictures to send to the writer.

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Re: [fast5] Too fast?



From my experience of BIA, instant estimates (and don't forget that's what they are) of proportions of fat, fat-free mass, and bone are affected too much by water levels, gut contents, etc. to be reliable over the short term.  If you're not convinced of this, just try weighing yourself at different times of day - e.g. before and after eating - or have a couple of glasses of water and then weigh yourself again.

The best way to use BIA is not to record measurements too frequently, but select a longer period (a month would probably be best).  Then take a measurement at the same time of day (e.g. after rising), for two or three days and take the average to be the estimate for that period.  Even then, it's not the absolute values that really matter, but the change over time.  Again, don't forget the common-sense guidelines of how, for example, your waist measurements (mainly fat) are changing relative to, say, your arm or leg size (more muscle).

It's probable that some of your initial weight loss relates to hydration and other factors like gut contents, because every pound of genuine fat-loss has to be "paid for" by 3500 fewer calories absorbed.  Thus consistent speed of fat-loss is basically going to be proportionate to overall calorie balance, and you could do some simple calculations on this to reassure yourself that you're not overdoing it.  It doesn't sound as if you're expending an inordinate amount of calories on exercise, so just make sure that you don't reduce your food intake more than 500-750 calories per day, which with a bit of exercise will probably result in 4-8 lbs loss per month over the longer haul, mostly from fat reserves.

David

2010/1/28 kimseunghoon <kimseunghoon@yahoo.com>
 

Two weeks passed after I started fast-5.

I lost about 11 pounds, and it seems that
more than half of the lost weight are fat.
After one week, I lost 3.5 lbs of fat and 1.3 lbs
of muscle according to body composition measurement via BIA.

I didn't have much difficulty in fasting and no dizziness, headache.
But I'm afraid of the speed of losing weight. Is it too fast?
Or is it normal?

Before I started fast-5, my weight was 176 lbs (5ft.6in height).
I do low intensity of weight lifting 3 times a week (no cardio).
During the eating window, I usually take one meal, some snacks
(fruits, milk, sometimes protein powder), and supplements
(Omega-3, vitamin).




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