Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle: 2013

Hang in there, Kristi. The science works.
but
Everyone is different.

D'uh, I know, but I am 64, always been very fit (am a sailor) but 'porked up' in the last 18 months as had a hip replacement & had gained about 14 lbs before I had the op. I lost 3 pounds the first week. I simply started the 19 hrs fast from day one & I have been assiduous in observing the 19 hrs. Seven weeks in and I have now lost 9 lbs. including 2 'plateaus' where nothing was moving. I started off weighing myself everyday and think that's not a great idea. I now check the scales once week coz micro-managing this only leads to frustration.

I agree with Linda; look for your loss in measurements or how your clothes feel not just the scales. I'm a woman and believe me it is waaaay harder to lose at this age. But it is the best & easiest body-management routine I've ever tried. I eat everything - wine included - during my break fast ( 6.30 - 10pm ) as I plan to just carry on like this as it really suits me.

So check the ebook for encouragement & know the science works.

On Thursday, 12 December 2013, 19:42, Churyl Zeviar <churyl@gmail.com> wrote:

Mark's daily apple has a really great explanation of how best to exercise and ear for weight loss. Check out his website and forums.

On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Linda McErlean <linda4686401@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Ebook says not to expect weight loss until after 2 weeks so your body can adjust. Take your measurements. You will see inch loss even if the scale doesn't move. Just my experience.
Linda

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On Dec 12, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Kristi S" <kmsmo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have been doing Fast-5 for 2 weeks with no weight loss. Does anyone have any ideas or tips to help?

I female, 5'3", and currently weigh 138. I am supposed to eat approx 1350 for weight loss, so I stay between 1250-1450 calories during my eating window. I stay away from sweets and empty calorie foods. I eat about 75 gm of protein per day. I workout (cardio and weight lifting) 5 days per week for 45-60 minutes.

On the bright side, I haven't gained any weight.

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Re: [fast5] Fast-5 not working... does anyone have any tips?

Mark's daily apple has a really great explanation of how best to exercise and ear for weight loss. Check out his website and forums.

On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Linda McErlean <linda4686401@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Ebook says not to expect weight loss until after 2 weeks so your body can adjust. Take your measurements. You will see inch loss even if the scale doesn't move. Just my experience.
Linda

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On Dec 12, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Kristi S" <kmsmo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have been doing Fast-5 for 2 weeks with no weight loss. Does anyone have any ideas or tips to help?

I female, 5'3", and currently weigh 138. I am supposed to eat approx 1350 for weight loss, so I stay between 1250-1450 calories during my eating window. I stay away from sweets and empty calorie foods. I eat about 75 gm of protein per day. I workout (cardio and weight lifting) 5 days per week for 45-60 minutes.

On the bright side, I haven't gained any weight.

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Re: [fast5] Fast-5 not working... does anyone have any tips?

The Ebook says not to expect weight loss until after 2 weeks so your body can adjust. Take your measurements. You will see inch loss even if the scale doesn't move. Just my experience.

Linda

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 12, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Kristi S" <kmsmo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have been doing Fast-5 for 2 weeks with no weight loss. Does anyone have any ideas or tips to help?

I female, 5'3", and currently weigh 138. I am supposed to eat approx 1350 for weight loss, so I stay between 1250-1450 calories during my eating window. I stay away from sweets and empty calorie foods. I eat about 75 gm of protein per day. I workout (cardio and weight lifting) 5 days per week for 45-60 minutes.

On the bright side, I haven't gained any weight.

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[fast5] Re: Supplements in the evening and sleep

I take supplements with my evening meal, and I have no problems sleeping at all. What supplements are you taking? Perhaps they contain a stimulant.

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I have been doing Fast-5 for 2 weeks with no weight loss. Does anyone have any ideas or tips to help?

I female, 5'3", and currently weigh 138. I am supposed to eat approx 1350 for weight loss, so I stay between 1250-1450 calories during my eating window. I stay away from sweets and empty calorie foods. I eat about 75 gm of protein per day. I workout (cardio and weight lifting) 5 days per week for 45-60 minutes.

On the bright side, I haven't gained any weight.

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Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Hello Seattle

Spurred on by our quick conversation about meds/vitamins, I now take most of them when I break my fast - typically @ 6-630pm now - and insure I take the last by 930pm. It seems to work as I go to bed around midnight.

Fortunately, I have no need to take medication so I'm just talking about vitamins. When I needed to take Diclophenic ( which reduced inflammation in my pre-op hip replacement but ripped up my digestive track) I always had it with yoghurt. I felt better but not sure it was an efficacious exercise.

I'm really pleased I inadvertently found Fast-5 as it suits me perfectly. Will modify a bit (coffee w/milk on Sunday morning!) when I lose 12 lbs but otherwise, I'll just live like this. What's not to like!
GL
& kind regards
Pepper

And I've lost 9 lbs since starting on 25 Oct.

On Sunday, 24 November 2013, 5:19, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Probably the only person that can answer that is yourself, by experimentation.

The issue of medications and vitamins is problematic, for sure. I'm not sure what

"food" does with meds to protect the stomach either. If it's the OIL in the food,

then theoretically a bit of oil would work, and not affect blood glucose much.

Konjac powder does seem to work with some meds, and it doesn't affect

blood glucose, but it also can slow down the rate at which the meds

are absorbed (which may or may not be a good thing).

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Pepper Howard <pepperhoward1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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Saturday, November 23, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Probably the only person that can answer that is yourself, by experimentation.

The issue of medications and vitamins is problematic, for sure. I'm not sure what

"food" does with meds to protect the stomach either. If it's the OIL in the food,

then theoretically a bit of oil would work, and not affect blood glucose much.

Konjac powder does seem to work with some meds, and it doesn't affect

blood glucose, but it also can slow down the rate at which the meds

are absorbed (which may or may not be a good thing).

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Pepper Howard <pepperhoward1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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STUDY COMPARING GRAZING VERSUS TIME‐RESTRICTED FEEDING

I am a scientist, and I am conducting a clinical study to find out which is better for health:

grazing or eating meals in a short time period early in the day (time‐restricted feeding).

I am looking for people who live in or around Baton Rouge, Louisiana to participate in the study.

If you are interested in participating or can help me spread the word, I would be very grateful

for any help. Especially if you know people who live near Baton Rouge who might be interested.

I am looking for overweight men aged 30‐65 to participate in this small pilot study. Details are

below. Thanks!

STUDY PURPOSE

The purpose of this study is to determine which is better for health: grazing on food all day long

or eating meals in a short time period early in the day.

BACKGROUND

Recent evidence suggests that grazing all day long may not be as good for health as widely

believed. Instead, eating within a few hours earlier in the day may facilitate weight loss and

improve blood sugar control. This is known as time‐restricted feeding, and it is a form of

intermittent fasting. In this study, we will test whether grazing versus time‐restricted feeding is

better for health.

ELIGIBILITY

Male
Age: 30‐65 years old
Overweight: BMI between 30‐50
(calculate your BMI here: www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm)
Do not currently fast or practice intermittent fasting

STUDY REQUIREMENTS

If you participate in the study, you will be required to eat all your meals for two 5 week periods

at Pennington Biomedical Research Center at fixed times each day. Meals will be provided at

no cost to you. In addition, there are 2 screening visits and 4 half‐days of testing.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Earn up to $1800 for participating

10 weeks of meals provided at no cost to you

HOW TO PARTICIPATE

If you are interested in participating in the TIMED EATING study, visit

https://my.pbrc.edu/?Study=0495‐0000 to screen online, call 225‐763‐3000, or email

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Friday, November 22, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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Thursday, November 21, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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[fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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Thursday, October 31, 2013

RE: RE: Re: [fast5] RE: Starting over

I forgot to tell you it isn't too hard for me to wait until my window for my coffee because my window is 11am to 5pm (yeah I know, it's a fast 6 LOL). I am very busy in the mornings and 11am comes pretty quick.

---In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <fast5@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have combined fast 5 with my own program of eat real food as much as possible, fast food rarely and start the day with lemon water. I very much want to try the coffee with coconut oil and butter but I would wait until my window opens.

i'm also a strong believer in try it and if it works great if it doesn't oh well you tried! just move that drink to your 5 hour window.

---In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <fast5@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

According to the book there is a limit of 5 calories or so for snacks.

That said, it's also an "experiment of one" and some people have their own tweaks. In general, the thing to do with adding "tweaks" is to experiment and see how it affects you. My guess would be that oils have less effect on fasting than carbs would, but the body's insulin response to food isn't always what you might think it is. The MCT in coconut oil has the effect of revving up the metabolism (as does the caffeine in the coffee!) so the net effect is anyone's guess.

My usual methodology is to do things "by the book" (or according the the recipe) the first time, then tweak if needed. For losing weight, my favorite snack is tea with lemon juice ... lemon juice ... and vinegar ... both do interesting things in the body with the result a person is less hungry and more prone to weight-loss. A twist of lemon in tea also supplies limonene, which helps prevent GERD ... some people have issues with reflux during fasting, and I think lemon slices help with this.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:49 AM, <vanessagray72@...> wrote:

I am new to this and have just one question. During my fast window time would I be permitted to have bulletproof coffee which is with butter and coconut oil. Sorry I dont know where to post this question. I am to understand that there is to be zero carbs during the fast period. Thank you

---In fast5@yahoogroups.com, <vickyg54@...> wrote:

Elsie,
Glad you're back on track. I make my calories count by eating nourishing foods and avoid junk foods that leave me just wanting more.

Vicky

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Eat plenty of protein! I think that's the trick to getting through the day without being hungry. Fish and eggs, especially, are hunger-killers. Eat your protein before the rest of the meal ... save dessert until last. Over the years I've observed people here, that is the one theme that keeps coming up: more protein, less sweets, corrals hunger.

If you do get hungry, try lemon juice in tea (or in water), or a bit of vinegar in water. Both of those are kind of magical during a fast. Vitamin C and citric acid are both good too.

Eating plenty of vegies is good too. Fiber does fill you up, and it also does good things for your gut, and gives you loads of nutrients.

Certain foods seem to trigger "the hungries" the next day. I think sugary foods are the worst in that respect, but finely ground-flour products may be bad too. Steamed rice seems fine for me though.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM, <elsie.ovrahim@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am new to this yahoo group. Starting over with fast 5 tomorrow. I began a few months ago and then began to waiver and then tried other things. But my experience with fast 5 that I had for two months is enough. Tomorrow is day one and I am starting Fast 5 again with a new appreciation and determination.

If anyone would like to comment on what they have done to get back on track (emotionally or mentally) that would be appreciated.

Talk soon.

Elsie

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Thursday, December 12, 2013

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Tuesday, November 26, 2013

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Saturday, November 23, 2013

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[fast5] Participate in a Study Comparing Grazing Versus Intermittent Fasting

Friday, November 22, 2013

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Thursday, November 21, 2013

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