Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle: November 2013

Hello Seattle

Spurred on by our quick conversation about meds/vitamins, I now take most of them when I break my fast - typically @ 6-630pm now - and insure I take the last by 930pm. It seems to work as I go to bed around midnight.

Fortunately, I have no need to take medication so I'm just talking about vitamins. When I needed to take Diclophenic ( which reduced inflammation in my pre-op hip replacement but ripped up my digestive track) I always had it with yoghurt. I felt better but not sure it was an efficacious exercise.

I'm really pleased I inadvertently found Fast-5 as it suits me perfectly. Will modify a bit (coffee w/milk on Sunday morning!) when I lose 12 lbs but otherwise, I'll just live like this. What's not to like!
GL
& kind regards
Pepper

And I've lost 9 lbs since starting on 25 Oct.

On Sunday, 24 November 2013, 5:19, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Probably the only person that can answer that is yourself, by experimentation.

The issue of medications and vitamins is problematic, for sure. I'm not sure what

"food" does with meds to protect the stomach either. If it's the OIL in the food,

then theoretically a bit of oil would work, and not affect blood glucose much.

Konjac powder does seem to work with some meds, and it doesn't affect

blood glucose, but it also can slow down the rate at which the meds

are absorbed (which may or may not be a good thing).

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Pepper Howard <pepperhoward1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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Saturday, November 23, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Probably the only person that can answer that is yourself, by experimentation.

The issue of medications and vitamins is problematic, for sure. I'm not sure what

"food" does with meds to protect the stomach either. If it's the OIL in the food,

then theoretically a bit of oil would work, and not affect blood glucose much.

Konjac powder does seem to work with some meds, and it doesn't affect

blood glucose, but it also can slow down the rate at which the meds

are absorbed (which may or may not be a good thing).

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Pepper Howard <pepperhoward1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

--
Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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Friday, November 22, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Hmmmm
I've been fasting - with no problem achieving the full 19 hrs from the get-go - since 25 Oct and am a much happier, more energised bunny. Yup. Have lost about 5 lbs the first 10 days so that's how much water weight (I rekon) I was carrying around. The next bit of weight to go has been counted in ounces but I'm happy doing it this way. Suits my lifestyle.

BUT
the last couple of nights I have been snoozing; not really sleeping. And I think it might be the vitamins I take - all of which insist to be taken with food. Glucosamine & Omega 3 (3 of) and a Day-Night Nutrition supplement which has borage & echium oil is taken mainly when I break my fast at @ 530pm. Interesting note you made, Heather, about vit C and I'll read the fine print on my supplements.

SO
anyone figured out if taking vitamins during the fast time - with milk say - has a deleterious effect?
My main plan is to lose 10 lbs and then treat myself to a coffee with milk on a Sunday morning, taking vits then.
I'll advise if that works.

Cheers & g.l.a. from sunny Scotland

On Friday, 22 November 2013, 4:00, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

What I did for supplements though, is put the cal/mag and Vit C in the evening pocket. Vit C is an anti-histamine, and those always tend to cause sleepiness. The B vitamins I put in the morning pocket.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

--
Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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Thursday, November 21, 2013

Re: [fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

Magnesium seems to be key for people I know. If they get enough, they sleep. When they don't take it, they get insomnia.

B vitamins though, keep me awake! I do NOT take them in the evening.

Also, starches and sugars put me to sleep. Proteins, and MCT, wake me up.

Some foods, notably the histamine foods, cause wakefulness. Fish sauce is a big one ... really high in histamines. For some people this will cause jitters even.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:11 AM, <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

--
Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/

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[fast5] Supplements in the evening and sleep

I prefer to eat later in the day, usually 5 pm at the earliest. I take vitamin supplements with my meal. I believe it is important to take vitamins with food, as the body is designed for whole food - not pills; so the supplements need to combine with food for balance.

I have trouble falling asleep sometimes. I was reading that taking supplements late in the day or evening can keep you awake.

I tried switching my meal to breakfast, but then I end up eating all day long.

Anyone here take supplements, and do you notice this?

I don't have sleep problems every day, it's off and on, so maybe it's not the supplements.

Ha, as I google this more, I see that there is quite a bit of disagreement on when to take supplements and whether it helps or hinders sleep.

- T

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Tuesday, November 26, 2013

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