Re: [fast5] Gall bladder complaint

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:07 AM, atreides1111 <atreides1111@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've never had gall bladder problems before and while far from having a great diet...I wouldn't say I eat particularly awful. My research led me to a few blurbs that stated fasting can cause gall bladder attacks. Has anyone come across this? The benefits of IF outweigh these minor pains, I was just wondering if I was the only one.

Gall bladder problems are depressingly common for ALL people, fasting or otherwise. They do tend to have "triggers" ... going OFF a diet is a big one (when you start eating "normal" again). 

Fasting hasn't been an issue for me with my gall bladder. Actually my gut is WAY better at processing fats than it was before Fast-5. My motivation for doing Fast-5 type eating was mainly to get my digestion working correctly again, and it worked great. I can eat pretty much anything now, even really greasy awful stuff, and my digestion is fine.

However, I do know a lot of people with gall bladder issues, and so have some familiarity with the issues. The symptoms actually show up way after the problems start. They have found gallstones in little kids. The actual problem seems to have to do with irritation of the bile duct, which tends to stop the bile duct from emptying properly.

So, what irritates the bile duct? The biggest one seems to be food allergies, esp. wheat gluten:

http://www.celiac.com/articles/119/1/Gall-Bladder-Disease-and-Celiac-Disease---By-Ronald-Hoggan/Page1.html

I expect any dysbiosis could be an issue too. Fast-5 did a great job of healing my own dysbiosis, albeit I am also using good fibers (konjac) and probiotics (kefir) and personally I can't handle wheat gluten at all and so have avoided it for a long time.

So my (non medical) advice would be: if you are worried about your gall bladder, DO address the issue. But not doing Fast-5 is not going to prevent gall bladder disease. Most people who have their gall bladders removed, are not doing any special diet at all, but they still lose their gall bladder, because no one addresses the cause of the inflammation. If you want to avoid surgery, figure out what the problem is! 

BTW, gut inflammation is fairly easy to fix, and you will feel SO MUCH better.

  

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[fast5] Gall bladder complaint

I've never had gall bladder problems before and while far from having a great diet...I wouldn't say I eat particularly awful. My research led me to a few blurbs that stated fasting can cause gall bladder attacks. Has anyone come across this? The benefits of IF outweigh these minor pains, I was just wondering if I was the only one.

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[fast5] Re: Best time to eat

The "normal" glucose patterns are almost all based on people following a three-meal-a-day diet. The circadian rhythm is altered by a different digestion pattern, and I think the glucose responsiveness is too. The dawn phenomenon (rising glucose in the morning with no food intake) may be enhanced in some people on a Fast-5 schedule with a late window. There is simply not enough data at this point to offer very firm advice on what's best for an individual. I trust that the body knows what it's doing and the mid-to-late afternoon eating most closely mimics what it has adapted to. The dawn phenomenon coincides with a morning surge in cortisol and may be the body's way of making fuel available for high demand -- unfortunately, we seldom put much demand on it.

Fortunately, you have the means (with some discussion and help from your doctor) to find out for yourself what's best in your case. By checking blood glucose levels several times a day for a few days after you've adapted to one window, you can see how your body responds to one schedule or another. The same goes for HbA1c, but since it changes so slowly you'd have to keep up the same schedule for a couple of months to get a useful HbA1c value.

Because the circadian rhythm takes several days to adjust, I think you have to keep up a given schedule for at least 2-3 weeks before doing a couple of days of regular (every few hours) testing.

I hope this helps --

Best wishes,

Bert
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>
>
> I am a type 2 diabetic and a 2pm to 7pm eating window seems to
> be working well for me. This is partly because a type 2 diabetic
> is less insulin resistant later in the day than early in the morning.
> But here is an article discusing the fact that a non diabetic handles
> carbs best in the morning. So I wonder if for some of us an early
> eating window might be healthier.
>
>
> http://edrv.endojournals.org/content/18/5/716.full
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[fast5] Best time to eat

I am a type 2 diabetic and a 2pm to 7pm eating window seems to
be working well for me. This is partly because a type 2 diabetic
is less insulin resistant later in the day than early in the morning.
But here is an article discusing the fact that a non diabetic handles
carbs best in the morning. So I wonder if for some of us an early
eating window might be healthier.

http://edrv.endojournals.org/content/18/5/716.full

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[fast5] Re: Question about Communion

Eating something less than 50 calories isn't going to knock you out of the fasted state. One host and a sip of wine is of no concern. A small bowl of green vegetables is also going to have no negative effect. F-5 is about freedom but if you aren't enjoying get togethers (especially ones with free food) then your making the protocol more important than the results and you're being unnecessarily obsessive. When life forces me to eat earlier in the day I just start my window earlier and maybe eat for a few hours longer that day and eat a few hours less another day. I have a number of days where I only eat for 3 hours so I don't worry about a few 8 hour days here and there.

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Re: [fast5] Re: Question about Communion

I appreciate you thinking of me, but actually I'm not Catholic: you are probably addressing the person who asked the question. Also, I have celiac, and that truly interferes with social events way more than Fast-5. One of the reasons I do Fast-5 is to feel more comfortable during social events, so I don't have to eat anything, because eating anything is likely to make me sick for the next few days. The celiacs who are trying to figure out communion have their own dialog going on right now, which is way more complicated than Fast-5.

So mostly I pass on what other people share, in terms of communion. Not everyone who takes communion is Catholic, and the amount of bread etc. varies with the church. So does the attitude toward what communion really is or means. My general take on Fast-5 in relation to all this is what I said: it probably won't make a difference, and if it does, change the window. Experiment!

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Carla J. Hanson <ChristeEleison@msn.com> wrote:

Dear Heather,

I realize this is partly outside the scope of the Fast-5 discussion group, but as a fellow Catholic, I just wanted to send out a reminder of what you probably already know--that once the bread and wine are consecrated, the accidents (including the calories) are still there, but that's no longer bread and wine we're talking about, but the body and blood of Christ and not bread or wine at all.  So the calories are there, but honestly, given what an amazing gift it is to receive Our Lord in Holy Communion, I'd either just not worry about the fact that it is outside your 5-hour eating zone (that's what I do) or change the 5-hour eating zone to begin during Mass if you like, since we are to fast for an hour before receiving Communion anyway.  Personally, I have not noticed that receiving Holy Communion causes any limbic hunger at all.

Peace in Christ,
Carla

 

 
 

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[fast5] Re: Question about Communion

Dear Heather,

I realize this is partly outside the scope of the Fast-5 discussion group, but as a fellow Catholic, I just wanted to send out a reminder of what you probably already know--that once the bread and wine are consecrated, the accidents (including the calories) are still there, but that's no longer bread and wine we're talking about, but the body and blood of Christ and not bread or wine at all.  So the calories are there, but honestly, given what an amazing gift it is to receive Our Lord in Holy Communion, I'd either just not worry about the fact that it is outside your 5-hour eating zone (that's what I do) or change the 5-hour eating zone to begin during Mass if you like, since we are to fast for an hour before receiving Communion anyway.  Personally, I have not noticed that receiving Holy Communion causes any limbic hunger at all.

Peace in Christ,
Carla

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[fast5] Re: Question about Communion

Some people in my church dip the wafer in the wine. I have always felt like that was cheating, since the Bible and liturgy both mention drinking the wine. Maybe I need to reconsider my opinion, however, and pray about it.

When I took the Communion today at the noon service, I took the smallest sip I could. It seemed to work out fine for me. :)

Thanks for the advice! :)

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Phil Voelker <mail4pvoelker@...> wrote:
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> Amazon and other sites quote the shipping weight of 1,000 average-size Hosts at 8.8 ounces. Allowing the decimal to drop off to cover the weight of the box, this gives us 8 ounces per 1,000 Hosts, or 125 Hosts per ounce. At 110 calories per ounce, using matzo meal as the closest thing to the ingredients in a communion wafer, this works out to 0.88 calories per Host.
>
> Wet your lips with the wine and don't sip it - there's no bonus points based on the amount you drink.  You should be good from a calorie standpoint.
>  
> P.
>
> From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...>
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Question about Communion
>
>
>  
> I'd say try it out. If you get really hungry after communion, then it might be a problem for you. I'd guess if you are strict the rest of the week it won't cause problems. The biggest problem is the "slippery slope", but if you are in a specific religious service, it probably won't be issue. Now, if there is a potluck after! Then maybe it's time to have your window in the AM for those days (some people have successfully used windows open at various time, depending on social occasions).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM, byronarn <byronarnold@...> wrote:
>
> I attend a church twice a week (Wednesday noon and Sunday morning) which gives communion every service. We have a little round wafer and a sip of wine. Unfortunately both these times are outside my eating window. According to this page (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2010/01/the_nutritional_content_of_hol.php), the wafer and a sip of wine of communion is 13 Calories. Is this enough to cancel the effects of the fast-5 diet? And is it enough to cause Limbic hunger?
> >
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[fast5] Re: Question about Communion

I attended the noon service today, and had no problem afterward. Got a little hungry, but it was only about an hour and a half til my window opened up (My window is from 2 to 7). So I think I will be alright for Wednesday services. :)

Now for Sunday, it may be a good idea for me to move my window to say 11:30 to 4:30 so that I can eat right after church (we often have refreshments, coffee, and tea right after church, nothing big though!).

Thanks for your advice! :)

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> I'd say try it out. If you get really hungry after communion, then it might
> be a problem for you. I'd guess if you are strict the rest of the week it
> won't cause problems. The biggest problem is the "slippery slope", but if
> you are in a specific religious service, it probably won't be issue. Now, if
> there is a potluck after! Then maybe it's time to have your window in the AM
> for those days (some people have successfully used windows open at various
> time, depending on social occasions).
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM, byronarn <byronarnold@...> wrote:
>
> > I attend a church twice a week (Wednesday noon and Sunday morning) which
> > gives communion every service. We have a little round wafer and a sip of
> > wine. Unfortunately both these times are outside my eating window. According
> > to this page (
> > http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2010/01/the_nutritional_content_of_hol.php),
> > the wafer and a sip of wine of communion is 13 Calories. Is this enough to
> > cancel the effects of the fast-5 diet? And is it enough to cause Limbic
> > hunger?
> >
> > Thanks for any and all help!
> >
> >
> >
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Amazon and other sites quote the shipping weight of 1,000 average-size Hosts at 8.8 ounces. Allowing the decimal to drop off to cover the weight of the box, this gives us 8 ounces per 1,000 Hosts, or 125 Hosts per ounce. At 110 calories per ounce, using matzo meal as the closest thing to the ingredients in a communion wafer, this works out to 0.88 calories per Host.

Wet your lips with the wine and don't sip it - there's no bonus points based on the amount you drink.  You should be good from a calorie standpoint.

 

P.

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Subject: Re: [fast5] Question about Communion

 

I'd say try it out. If you get really hungry after communion, then it might be a problem for you. I'd guess if you are strict the rest of the week it won't cause problems. The biggest problem is the "slippery slope", but if you are in a specific religious service, it probably won't be issue. Now, if there is a potluck after! Then maybe it's time to have your window in the AM for those days (some people have successfully used windows open at various time, depending on social occasions).

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM, byronarn <byronarnold@gmail.com> wrote:

I attend a church twice a week (Wednesday noon and Sunday morning) which gives communion every service. We have a little round wafer and a sip of wine. Unfortunately both these times are outside my eating window. According to this page (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2010/01/the_nutritional_content_of_hol.php), the wafer and a sip of wine of communion is 13 Calories. Is this enough to cancel the effects of the fast-5 diet? And is it enough to cause Limbic hunger?

Thanks for any and all help!



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Re: [fast5] Question about Communion

I'd say try it out. If you get really hungry after communion, then it might be a problem for you. I'd guess if you are strict the rest of the week it won't cause problems. The biggest problem is the "slippery slope", but if you are in a specific religious service, it probably won't be issue. Now, if there is a potluck after! Then maybe it's time to have your window in the AM for those days (some people have successfully used windows open at various time, depending on social occasions).

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM, byronarn <byronarnold@gmail.com> wrote:

I attend a church twice a week (Wednesday noon and Sunday morning) which gives communion every service. We have a little round wafer and a sip of wine. Unfortunately both these times are outside my eating window. According to this page (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2010/01/the_nutritional_content_of_hol.php), the wafer and a sip of wine of communion is 13 Calories. Is this enough to cancel the effects of the fast-5 diet? And is it enough to cause Limbic hunger?

Thanks for any and all help!



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[fast5] Question about Communion

I attend a church twice a week (Wednesday noon and Sunday morning) which gives communion every service. We have a little round wafer and a sip of wine. Unfortunately both these times are outside my eating window. According to this page (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2010/01/the_nutritional_content_of_hol.php), the wafer and a sip of wine of communion is 13 Calories. Is this enough to cancel the effects of the fast-5 diet? And is it enough to cause Limbic hunger?

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Re: [fast5] Re: I have a question

Well, when I tested mine, the "hypoglycemic" wasn't low blood sugar at all, 

which was a shock! Blood sugar issues was my primary reason for doing

this, and it's worked like a charm. I don't watch my carbs particularly,

and usually have white rice with my meals most of the time (my

cuisine is primarily Asian). In Asia they do eat a LOT of what is

supposedly a bad carb, white rice, but they have very low levels

of both obesity and diabetes.

I do donate blood and watch out for how many iron-rich foods though.

Blood ferritin levels are one of the things that can mess up your

sugar handling, and my ferritin levels were rather high. They have come

down, and so has my blood glucose.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Sam <samdgood@yahoo.com> wrote:

i am not diabetic but i deal with low sugar and shakes and cold sweats. i have always assumed i was hypoglycemic. whether you are either one, you want to watch your carbs. you don't want to eat too many carbs but you can't cut them out either. i try to read all i can about the good carbs and bad carbs. as long as i eat good food, i haven't had any probs with the fasting.

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> If a normal person that isn't diabetic, would they ever get a low blood
> sugar when they are fasting?  My daughter is curious about that.  Or would
> that be a low from a rebound of high blood sugars?   She was just curious if
> this fast could cause a low blood sugar shakes etc that you sometimes can
> get.
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[fast5] Re: I have a question

i am not diabetic but i deal with low sugar and shakes and cold sweats. i have always assumed i was hypoglycemic. whether you are either one, you want to watch your carbs. you don't want to eat too many carbs but you can't cut them out either. i try to read all i can about the good carbs and bad carbs. as long as i eat good food, i haven't had any probs with the fasting.

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> If a normal person that isn't diabetic, would they ever get a low blood
> sugar when they are fasting? My daughter is curious about that. Or would
> that be a low from a rebound of high blood sugars? She was just curious if
> this fast could cause a low blood sugar shakes etc that you sometimes can
> get.
> Karen k
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Re: [fast5] I have a question

I think a lot of people have an adaption period. One of the reasons I started doing this kind of eating to begin with, way back when, was that when I skipped a meal, I got really sick, grouchy, and shaky. Someone said that if I ate in one small period of time, that would STOP the problem. Which sounded crazy enough that I had to try it. The first week was horrid ... it was before Dr. Herring wrote about Fast-5 and starting gradually! But it worked rather nicely.

Anyway, while I was getting the shakes and all, I got a glucometer to see what was *really* happening. And guess what? When I was having "low blood sugar", my blood sugar was actually HIGH, at 120, rather than it's normal 95. Someone said the problem was probably cortisol, which your body pumps out to raise your blood glucose. Sometimes it makes too much cortisol, and the cortisol is what makes you shaky. Exercise helps get rid of the cortisol (also not intuitive!). 

After "getting used to" the eating pattern, my fasting blood glucose eventually went down to 83, which is better. I really think this kind of rebound is rather a problem when you get a test for being "diabetic" based on one fasting blood test, because you can be pretty stable the rest of the time, based on my experience. And it can upset people who are doing IF for the first time, thinking that fasting is going to cause them to go diabetic. In studies, you are more likely to improve your blood glucose by fasting, in the long run.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Karen K <kamako@wavecable.com> wrote:

If a normal person that isn't diabetic, would they ever get a low blood sugar when they are fasting?  My daughter is curious about that.  Or would that be a low from a rebound of high blood sugars?   She was just curious if this fast could cause a low blood sugar shakes etc that you sometimes can get.  Karen k

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[fast5] I have a question

If a normal person that isn't diabetic, would they ever get a low blood sugar when they are fasting?  My daughter is curious about that.  Or would that be a low from a rebound of high blood sugars?   She was just curious if this fast could cause a low blood sugar shakes etc that you sometimes can get.  Karen k

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Re: [fast5] Re: Hello

O yes, this is the link I needed!  Thanks so much!

Sandra

On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Karen K wrote:

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/48293269770?ap=1   Try this link.  There is about 554 people in the group. karen       -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 9:25:26 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Hello   I checked it out on Facebook, but see a group with only 28 people.  Can that be right? Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:36 PM, thentor wrote:   Karen, Welcome to the Yahoo group. You are correct -- there is more activity in the Facebook group. There are lots of helpful people and tons of Fast-5 experience in both groups. Remember that with Fast-5, weight loss is not an immediate result -- it can take 2-3 weeks to adjust. Some people do see weight loss right away, but if you don't that doesn't mean it's not going to work for you. If you have questions or problems, please ask. Best wishes, Bert --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Karen K" <kamako@...> wrote: > > I checked out this group on the yahoo site, and it appears there hasn't > been a lot of activity. Lots of time, people move over to Facebook. I've > signed up there as well. > This was my first official day with the fast 5. I have been low carbing for > a while. > By number stats, I am diabetic. So I am just watching what I eat and > trying to keep numbers down. Wanted to see what this way of eating does to > my #s. My weight is not dropping which is frustrating. > Karen k > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Sandra Almgren > Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM > To: fast5@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello > > > > Hi back, > I just joined the group yesterday. I've been a member of Spark People for a > few months and joined the Fast-5 group there. But they are very very quiet, > so I thought I'd check it out here. Perhaps I should start by reading in > the archives? I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program > (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program. > > > Sandra > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote: > > > > Hi, > Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month. > Just wondering if anyone is out there, and how is it going for you? > Karen k >

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Re: [fast5] Re: Binging/overeating

 Does it work for you at all to eat some (for satisfaction) then have a 10 - 15 minute break?  I find that WHEN I can do that, the interest in the food almost always subsides and I don't really care about them anymore.  Just SOMETHING to break the eating-momentum.

Just a thought...

Sandra

On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:28 PM, lusana wrote:>All I want to do is stuff my face with nuts and raisins

 

Whenever I clean up my diet and eat ultra healthy nuts and dried fruit are always my downfall.I too can eat masses so I have to keep them out of the house and only have drinks in the evening.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Kelli <KelliJohnston@...> wrote:
>
> I am not sure if I would classify it as binging because the food is relatively healthy but I am definitely eating past hunger so I know it is at least overeating. Anyway.... I am having trouble with this and it is getting harder and harder. I am within 5 pds of my goal (about 22- 24% body fat) and was losing about 1/2-1 pd a week keeping my calories low. Recently all I can think about is binging on nuts and raisins! I know it sounds funny but I think I may be eating 800 or so of nuts and raisins a night and it isn't out of hunger!
>
> My diet is pretty balanced otherwise and I am sticking to 19 hours pretty well. I avoid grains/potatoes but eat fruit and obviously dried fruit. But I didn't have this problem before fasting/ calorie restriction... I did snack a lot on chips and some sweets. I was never overweight but approaching if I continued as I was.
>
> Should I just keep these out of the house??? Find a low cal replacement? Should I shorten window? Make it earlier or later? Add back grains?? All I want to do is stuff my face with nuts and raisins!
>
> Thanks, Kelli
>

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/48293269770?ap=1   Try this link.  There is about 554 people in the group. karen       -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 9:25:26 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Hello   I checked it out on Facebook, but see a group with only 28 people.  Can that be right? Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:36 PM, thentor wrote:   Karen, Welcome to the Yahoo group. You are correct -- there is more activity in the Facebook group. There are lots of helpful people and tons of Fast-5 experience in both groups. Remember that with Fast-5, weight loss is not an immediate result -- it can take 2-3 weeks to adjust. Some people do see weight loss right away, but if you don't that doesn't mean it's not going to work for you. If you have questions or problems, please ask. Best wishes, Bert --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Karen K" <kamako@...> wrote: > > I checked out this group on the yahoo site, and it appears there hasn't > been a lot of activity. Lots of time, people move over to Facebook. I've > signed up there as well. > This was my first official day with the fast 5. I have been low carbing for > a while. > By number stats, I am diabetic. So I am just watching what I eat and > trying to keep numbers down. Wanted to see what this way of eating does to > my #s. My weight is not dropping which is frustrating. > Karen k > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Sandra Almgren > Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM > To: fast5@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello > > > > Hi back, > I just joined the group yesterday. I've been a member of Spark People for a > few months and joined the Fast-5 group there. But they are very very quiet, > so I thought I'd check it out here. Perhaps I should start by reading in > the archives? I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program > (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program. > > > Sandra > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote: > > > > Hi, > Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month. > Just wondering if anyone is out there, and how is it going for you? > Karen k >

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Re: [fast5] Hello

It might be.  Depending on your settings.  But a posting on a private group stays private I think.   karen          -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 9:25:36 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello   If you join on the Facebook site, is that announced to all your facebook-friends?   Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Karen K wrote:   I checked out this group on the yahoo site,  and it appears there hasn't been a lot of activity.  Lots of time,  people move over to Facebook.  I've signed up there as well. This was my first official day with the fast 5.  I have been low carbing for a while. By number stats,  I am diabetic.  So I am just watching what I eat and trying to keep numbers down.  Wanted to see what this way of eating does to my #s.  My weight is not dropping which is frustrating.  Karen k          -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello   Hi back,  I just joined the group yesterday.  I've been a member of Spark People for a few months and joined the Fast-5 group there.  But they are very very quiet, so I thought I'd check it out here.  Perhaps I should start by reading in the archives?  I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program. Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote:   Hi, Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month. Just wondering if anyone is out there,  and how is it going for you? Karen k

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[fast5] Re: Binging/overeating

Whenever I clean up my diet and eat ultra healthy nuts and dried fruit are always my downfall.I too can eat masses so I have to keep them out of the house and only have drinks in the evening.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Kelli <KelliJohnston@...> wrote:
>
> I am not sure if I would classify it as binging because the food is relatively healthy but I am definitely eating past hunger so I know it is at least overeating. Anyway.... I am having trouble with this and it is getting harder and harder. I am within 5 pds of my goal (about 22- 24% body fat) and was losing about 1/2-1 pd a week keeping my calories low. Recently all I can think about is binging on nuts and raisins! I know it sounds funny but I think I may be eating 800 or so of nuts and raisins a night and it isn't out of hunger!
>
> My diet is pretty balanced otherwise and I am sticking to 19 hours pretty well. I avoid grains/potatoes but eat fruit and obviously dried fruit. But I didn't have this problem before fasting/ calorie restriction... I did snack a lot on chips and some sweets. I was never overweight but approaching if I continued as I was.
>
> Should I just keep these out of the house??? Find a low cal replacement? Should I shorten window? Make it earlier or later? Add back grains?? All I want to do is stuff my face with nuts and raisins!
>
> Thanks, Kelli
>

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Re: [fast5] Re: Hello

I checked it out on Facebook, but see a group with only 28 people.  Can that be right?

Sandra

On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:36 PM, thentor wrote:

 

Karen,
Welcome to the Yahoo group. You are correct -- there is more activity in the Facebook group. There are lots of helpful people and tons of Fast-5 experience in both groups.

Remember that with Fast-5, weight loss is not an immediate result -- it can take 2-3 weeks to adjust. Some people do see weight loss right away, but if you don't that doesn't mean it's not going to work for you. If you have questions or problems, please ask.

Best wishes,

Bert

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Karen K" <kamako@...> wrote:
>
> I checked out this group on the yahoo site, and it appears there hasn't
> been a lot of activity. Lots of time, people move over to Facebook. I've
> signed up there as well.
> This was my first official day with the fast 5. I have been low carbing for
> a while.
> By number stats, I am diabetic. So I am just watching what I eat and
> trying to keep numbers down. Wanted to see what this way of eating does to
> my #s. My weight is not dropping which is frustrating.
> Karen k
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Sandra Almgren
> Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello
>
>
>
> Hi back,
> I just joined the group yesterday. I've been a member of Spark People for a
> few months and joined the Fast-5 group there. But they are very very quiet,
> so I thought I'd check it out here. Perhaps I should start by reading in
> the archives? I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program
> (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program.
>
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
> Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month.
> Just wondering if anyone is out there, and how is it going for you?
> Karen k
>

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Re: [fast5] Hello

If you join on the Facebook site, is that announced to all your facebook-friends?  

Sandra

On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Karen K wrote:

 

I checked out this group on the yahoo site,  and it appears there hasn't been a lot of activity.  Lots of time,  people move over to Facebook.  I've signed up there as well. This was my first official day with the fast 5.  I have been low carbing for a while. By number stats,  I am diabetic.  So I am just watching what I eat and trying to keep numbers down.  Wanted to see what this way of eating does to my #s.  My weight is not dropping which is frustrating.  Karen k          -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello   Hi back,  I just joined the group yesterday.  I've been a member of Spark People for a few months and joined the Fast-5 group there.  But they are very very quiet, so I thought I'd check it out here.  Perhaps I should start by reading in the archives?  I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program. Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote:   Hi, Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month. Just wondering if anyone is out there,  and how is it going for you? Karen k

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[fast5] Re: Hello

Karen,
Welcome to the Yahoo group. You are correct -- there is more activity in the Facebook group. There are lots of helpful people and tons of Fast-5 experience in both groups.

Remember that with Fast-5, weight loss is not an immediate result -- it can take 2-3 weeks to adjust. Some people do see weight loss right away, but if you don't that doesn't mean it's not going to work for you. If you have questions or problems, please ask.

Best wishes,

Bert

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Karen K" <kamako@...> wrote:
>
> I checked out this group on the yahoo site, and it appears there hasn't
> been a lot of activity. Lots of time, people move over to Facebook. I've
> signed up there as well.
> This was my first official day with the fast 5. I have been low carbing for
> a while.
> By number stats, I am diabetic. So I am just watching what I eat and
> trying to keep numbers down. Wanted to see what this way of eating does to
> my #s. My weight is not dropping which is frustrating.
> Karen k
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Sandra Almgren
> Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello
>
>
>
> Hi back,
> I just joined the group yesterday. I've been a member of Spark People for a
> few months and joined the Fast-5 group there. But they are very very quiet,
> so I thought I'd check it out here. Perhaps I should start by reading in
> the archives? I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program
> (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program.
>
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
> Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month.
> Just wondering if anyone is out there, and how is it going for you?
> Karen k
>

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I checked out this group on the yahoo site,  and it appears there hasn't been a lot of activity.  Lots of time,  people move over to Facebook.  I've signed up there as well. This was my first official day with the fast 5.  I have been low carbing for a while. By number stats,  I am diabetic.  So I am just watching what I eat and trying to keep numbers down.  Wanted to see what this way of eating does to my #s.  My weight is not dropping which is frustrating.  Karen k          -------Original Message-------   From: Sandra Almgren Date: 7/11/2011 1:58:30 PM To: fast5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fast5] Hello   Hi back,  I just joined the group yesterday.  I've been a member of Spark People for a few months and joined the Fast-5 group there.  But they are very very quiet, so I thought I'd check it out here.  Perhaps I should start by reading in the archives?  I'm interetsed in learning all I can about the program (already read the booklet) but more about how all of you USE the program. Sandra On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Karen K wrote:   Hi, Doesn't look like a lot of activity this month. Just wondering if anyone is out there,  and how is it going for you? Karen k

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