Saturday, January 26, 2013

Re: [fast5] Re: Just got a diagnosis ...






On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Susan Sloate <susan@susansloate.com> wrote:


God bless you, Heather! I had a feeling you would answer first, and you have come through spectacularly!

Well, thanks! It does do me good to help others. There wasn't much support out there when I got stuck with all this. There are groups dedicated to just GF foods, and sites like celiac.com. But the biggest help is yes, there are good "staple" products these days. Sometimes a nice big bowl of pasta with fresh garlic and olive oil is the height of the day.

I have to admit that given what I've heard of GF substitutes for wheat products, I haven't felt too hopeful and was thinking I'd have to settle for very simple meals that are mostly vegetables, meat and fruit. (Damn, it was discouraging to see all the chocolate brands in the store today and find out they were made with whole eggs or egg whites!! I'm not sure, but I THINK I can actually eat Reese's Peanut Butter Cups – and yes, that would be a big deal.) For this junk-food junkie, life is going to be VERY different from now on!

Most of the "allergy friendly" foods are egg free. I think bread is probably the exception: Udi's has egg white I think. Schar doesn't though, and the nice thing about it is that it is shelf-stable. So you can just open it up when you are hungry. It's a bit dry until toasted, but that is true of most packaged foods. Makes really nice garlic bread toast, which my family has gotten addicted to.

In many places around here, there are local bakeries who specialize in "Gluten free vegan". Which sounds pretty horrid, but you know, the food is amazing. I got some muffins that were loaded with chocolate chips, quinoa and gooey something or another which was just one of the best muffins I've ever had anywhere. I eat the vegan bakery stuff a lot because it doesn't have dairy. But how they do it without eggs ... I have no idea.

 
 
But your input has been SOOO valuable ... and so quickly! It's heartening to know there are lots of things I can eat, and since I did think it was a good idea to start learning to cook decent meals, maybe this is more incentive than punishment! (Thank you especially for all the brand names – I'll look for them. Do you know anything about Ezekiel bread? I keep seeing it in the grocery store and I'm told it's GF and pretty good ... any thoughts?)

Ezekiel bread isn't gluten free, sorry! Nor are the "ancient grains" versions of wheat. Spelt is an earlier form of wheat, but it still isn't safe for people with celiac. Some people have a less intense issue with wheat, and "lower gluten" stuff works for them.


There really are some good breads available these days though.

What you will probably find though, based on listening to people over the years, is that at some point you'll just lose your taste for so much bread. A lot of bread craving is because wheat is somewhat addictive, and once you are eating gluten-free starches, there is just less desire for the starch. A lot of people lose their craving for sugars too. Instead they get cravings for foods they never thought to even think about much ... like blueberries or mangoes (what my daughter started craving: loads and loads of mangoes!).

But just don't worry about it. Listen to your appestat. Your body has a really great chemistry set built into it, and a bunch of dedicated nerve cells to, with the major job of helping you eat what you need. Gluten ... and more important the damage it does to the upper intestine ... messes up your appestat. Once that starts healing, your appetite will change. In the meantime, get food your really enjoy to keep your brain happy.

Also ... it is quite possible that your egg allergy will go away after awhile. The gluten issue seems to be genetic, an inborn defense against the peptides strings that are in gluten. That pattern is also found in candida, which might be the reason, but no one knows. Eggs though, seem to be a learned allergy, a result of the gut leakage that wheat promotes and the lack of stomach acid. Once the wheat stops, a lot of people "lose" the other allergies. Which makes life simpler.


  
I'm also VERY heartened to know that you believe F5 is a key to clearing up digestion problems. I always felt well and energetic when I was doing it, and I'm determined to get back to it and stay on it. (Come to think of it, I think I did it without even trying today – didn't eat today till well after 3 pm and have stopped eating for the night now ... so guess that's my five-hour window.)

Yes, it actually was a lifesaver at the time. It was getting so I couldn't digest *anything* ... even eating lettuce seemed problematic. But my digestive enzymes came back nicely on F5.
 
Probiotics are helpful too, esp. Sacch Boulardii or "real" kefir (the kind you grow yourself).

 
I think the key to my doing this successfully is having a variety of good things to eat that I enjoy, and therefore not feeling deprived. I think it's interesting that five minutes after I heard the diagnosis, I thought about what I'd have to give up, and already they had sort of retreated in my consciousness as something that was available to me. I know they're on the planet, but they're no longer relevant, I don't feel bad about not having them, and that's a very good start.

Yes! Concentrate on one good meal a day. I mean the most yummy meal you can come up with. The majority of foods that are not easily replaceable are the fast food items or candy bars and such. They are really junky food though. Most fast food is also rancid and made cheaply from bad meat, and much of the GOOD chocolate is GF. 

The one food I couldn't replace easily was fried chicken and fish and chips, and I did learn to make that. And it's amazing. Turns out though that my family doesn't really care and would just as soon have stir-fry or baked potato. It feels good to me though, to know I CAN have it whenever I feel like it.

Check out restaurants with a good GF menu though. We have a really nice one near here, upscale with a great view, and they make a killer pizza. PF Chang's has a great GF menu, and I go there for my Chinese food fix.

 
I still would like to know if frozen yogurt is okay (remember, I can eat dairy, but not egg whites). Is chewing gum and/or bubble gum? (And yes, despite my dentist, I won't give those up if I don't have to!) I suspect that between F5 and the demands of the new nutrition, I'll probably gradually get to a much better way of eating, but I'm sure at the start I'll still want my crutches. Also, do you know of any kind of GF matzo meal? (I love chicken soup w/matzo balls and would LOVE to be able to make that still!) And since I use whole eggs in the making of matzo balls, do you know if I could substitute just egg yolks and get the same result?

Jewish food is often GF, esp. the mixes made for Passover. A lot of celiacs stock up on Jewish food around Passover time! I've never made matzoh, but I'm sure someone has a vegan GF version.


I do know that most dumpling recipes work fine made with egg yolk, or no eggs at all. My grandma's German dumplings she made with wheat grits, but I just switched to rice grits or hominy grits and they work fine. She just made the grits, let them cool down in the pan, the spooned them into the hot soup before serving.

My chicken soup never did have wheat or eggs in it though, since I grew up on hominy grits. We just cooked a chicken in some water and vegies. My secret was always to make sure there is skin and bone in it too, and cook it forever. Then cool it down, take out the bones, take off the fat. Also when I cook it, I use lots of garlic powder. Add the vegies the next day, and only cook the vegies for 20 minutes or so, so they aren't overdone. Then add dumplings.


 
Also – a little off topic – I use parsnips in making the chicken soup, and it always turns out delicious. Would love to eat parsnips in other ways, since making chicken soup is kind of an all-day situation. Someone suggested roasting parsnips in olive oil, with salt and pepper added. Is this good, and are there other ways to eat them? Would love to include them more actively in my diet.

I've gotten pretty good with vegies. My family loves vegies these days. The secret is: ethnic cuisine! I tell you, most of the world cooks vegies a lot better than Britain or old America. 

I don't think parsnips take all that long though. For root vegies in general, you can do a simple "adobo style" dish ... put some chicken pieces in a pan with some water, salt, garlic powder, whatever, to cover. Let them cook til the water starts evaporating, and the chicken is tender. Then add root vegies and cook til the vegies are tender (you can add the vegies earlier, if you want them really cooked). Add some vinegar toward the end.

Root vegies are usually very good just tossed with olive oil and baked too, like you suggested. Green beans are good like that too, oddly.

 
Thank you again, Heather – I do have millions of questions and right now am not finding a specialist in my area whom I can consult. What kind of doctor do you use for this? (I was referred to a rheumatologist but someone told me I should be seeing a gastroenterologist ... is that right?)

Well, at the time I was dealing with this, the local doctors didn't believe celiac existed, and mostly when I tried to get tested I got a long lecture about how it doesn't exist in America. NOW my gastro looks at my chart and says I'm celiac. Go figure. Thing is though, the "treatment" is mainly, "learn to eat". A local celiac support group is a really GREAT thing and there is likely one near you. Probably listed at celiac.com

A gastro can scope your insides though, and see what kind of damage you do have to your intestines. It depends on the kind of reaction you have. Some people do have a lot of damage, and are at risk for certains kinds of cancers. Other people have little or no damage. But it would be good to check with the local support group for a referral. Right now some docs are really convinced "this gluten stuff" is all a fad, and THAT is very discouraging.

 
And thanks to everyone else on the list for whom this is totally irrelevant – I appreciate your patience as I try to get some much-needed answers!

Yes, in some ways it is off-topic for sure. I do have to say though that for people who do have special dietary needs, F5 can work very well. It's a lot easier to manage one meal rather than three.

The gluten-free groups are a great resource though, and you can find local people who can tip you onto the great places to eat and shop!
 
 
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Friday, January 25, 2013

[fast5] Re: Just got a diagnosis ...



God bless you, Heather! I had a feeling you would answer first, and you have come through spectacularly!
 
I have to admit that given what I've heard of GF substitutes for wheat products, I haven't felt too hopeful and was thinking I'd have to settle for very simple meals that are mostly vegetables, meat and fruit. (Damn, it was discouraging to see all the chocolate brands in the store today and find out they were made with whole eggs or egg whites!! I'm not sure, but I THINK I can actually eat Reese's Peanut Butter Cups – and yes, that would be a big deal.) For this junk-food junkie, life is going to be VERY different from now on!
 
But your input has been SOOO valuable ... and so quickly! It's heartening to know there are lots of things I can eat, and since I did think it was a good idea to start learning to cook decent meals, maybe this is more incentive than punishment! (Thank you especially for all the brand names – I'll look for them. Do you know anything about Ezekiel bread? I keep seeing it in the grocery store and I'm told it's GF and pretty good ... any thoughts?)
 
I'm also VERY heartened to know that you believe F5 is a key to clearing up digestion problems. I always felt well and energetic when I was doing it, and I'm determined to get back to it and stay on it. (Come to think of it, I think I did it without even trying today – didn't eat today till well after 3 pm and have stopped eating for the night now ... so guess that's my five-hour window.)
 
I think the key to my doing this successfully is having a variety of good things to eat that I enjoy, and therefore not feeling deprived. I think it's interesting that five minutes after I heard the diagnosis, I thought about what I'd have to give up, and already they had sort of retreated in my consciousness as something that was available to me. I know they're on the planet, but they're no longer relevant, I don't feel bad about not having them, and that's a very good start.
 
I still would like to know if frozen yogurt is okay (remember, I can eat dairy, but not egg whites). Is chewing gum and/or bubble gum? (And yes, despite my dentist, I won't give those up if I don't have to!) I suspect that between F5 and the demands of the new nutrition, I'll probably gradually get to a much better way of eating, but I'm sure at the start I'll still want my crutches. Also, do you know of any kind of GF matzo meal? (I love chicken soup w/matzo balls and would LOVE to be able to make that still!) And since I use whole eggs in the making of matzo balls, do you know if I could substitute just egg yolks and get the same result?
 
Also – a little off topic – I use parsnips in making the chicken soup, and it always turns out delicious. Would love to eat parsnips in other ways, since making chicken soup is kind of an all-day situation. Someone suggested roasting parsnips in olive oil, with salt and pepper added. Is this good, and are there other ways to eat them? Would love to include them more actively in my diet.
 
Thank you again, Heather – I do have millions of questions and right now am not finding a specialist in my area whom I can consult. What kind of doctor do you use for this? (I was referred to a rheumatologist but someone told me I should be seeing a gastroenterologist ... is that right?)
 
And thanks to everyone else on the list for whom this is totally irrelevant – I appreciate your patience as I try to get some much-needed answers!
 
Susan
 
 
 
 


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Thursday, January 24, 2013

Re: [fast5] Just got a diagnosis ...




Well, I've been unable to have gluten or dairy for about 12 years now. The gastro tells me I am "probably celiac" by the new definition, but dairy gives me migraines.

At any rate, 12 years ago it was a devastating thing to learn, and my relatives actually sort of disowned me. I couldn't figure out anything to eat! So I went into a funk for about a year.

These days there is a lot more acceptance. Also food! The rest of my family decided they feel a lot better without wheat in any case, so we just don't have it in the house, ever. That said, people come over here to eat a lot and they don't see anything weird about our diet. We eat about the same things we used to, except more of our food is homemade. Homemade food tastes better too! But some examples are:

-- Tacos and enchiladas. Mexican food is traditionally wheat-free. Doesn't use eggs much either.
-- Spaghetti. Just use Tinkyada brand. All the sauces seem to be gluten-free. I make some quickie meatballs using leftover GF bread, or else use Italian sausage from the store.
-- Garlic bread: Use Udi's or Schar dinner rolls, toast them with butter/margerine and garlic powder.
-- Sandwiches: Use Udi's or Canyon bread. 
-- Rice: We do love rice these days! Get the good Asian brands "for export" ... it tastes better.
-- Stir fry: We do lots of Asian-style recipes. Tasty and quick.
-- Pizza: Why not? Just use GF pizza crust.
-- Cake: We do make cake on occasion, usually chocolate. Betty Crocker has GF cake mix now. Most desserts these days have "egg free" versions, because a lot of kids can't have eggs.
-- Soup. Most any soup is good.
-- Phad Thai.
-- Baked chicken, or oven-fried chicken.
-- Baked beans
-- Kraut, potatoes, and sausage

For most meals I aim for a cup or so of something starchy, 2 cups or more of vegies, and 2-6 oz of meat/chicken/fish.

If you can do dairy, that is a lot easier than our version. Dairy has been difficult to do without. But life will feel better to you if you just pick out the foods you REALLY LOVE now, and figure out GF versions of them. I'd be happy to help with ideas if you have examples of something you think you will miss. The one food I had a hard time missing was fried fish and chips, but eventually I learned how to make that. And mine is better! The family doesn't like eating out, even when we find a GF restaurant, because they say it doesn't taste as good when "they make it". I think a lot of it is that restaurants don't use the really GOOD ingredients ... for frying they use something like hydrogenated corn oil, while I would use good coconut oil or high-quality olive oil. For something like pizza, if you use a good Asagio cheese rather than plain ol' cheddar, you'll have a much better pizza (my pizzas these days don't have cheese, but I use carmellized onions).

We also do some foods that we really couldn't get at any price. Like ... I take a goose or turkey, debone it, brine it, stuff it with GF cornbread stuffing, then smoke the whole thing in a water smoker. See, these days we don't see ourselves as "deprived", we see ourselves as "culinarily superior". 

Now, here is the thing though: Fast 5 helps digestion. Dropping wheat helped me a lot, but I still didn't digest food well. When I started fasting most of the day, then my digestion healed. I think the "no food" time period gives the gut a chance to do house cleaning.

Also, it means I only have to figure out one meal a day, not 3 of them!



On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM, jfkauthor <susan@susansloate.com> wrote:
and sure would appreciate the group's advice.

I was tested last week for food allergies, and this morning the doctor's office called. I was told I tested positive for celiac disease AND I was also allergic to egg whites.

Whew.

I've had most of the day to think about it now, and am trying to find a good doctor to work with. But I'd also appreciate any suggestions or advice from the group. I know unexpected foods (like ketchup) contain gluten - but do things like frozen yogurt? And if frozen yogurt is gluten-free, is it also free of egg whites? (I'll look up a comprehensive list on the web - I'm sure there's one somewhere.)

Meanwhile, if you have any resources to suggest, or ways I can begin to adjust to this new way of eating, I'd be grateful. Fortunately (!), I just lost my afternoon job, which means I can go back to eating from 3:30 to 8:30 (the best window I've ever found for me). Looking forward to starting that very soon - and of course at the same time figuring out the whole gluten-free, egg-white-free thing.

Thanks in advance for your help - I have some symptoms (like skin itching and eruptions that don't quite heal) that I'd LOVE to see go away - maybe doing this will make that happen!

Susan



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[fast5] Just got a diagnosis ...

and sure would appreciate the group's advice.

I was tested last week for food allergies, and this morning the doctor's office called. I was told I tested positive for celiac disease AND I was also allergic to egg whites.

Whew.

I've had most of the day to think about it now, and am trying to find a good doctor to work with. But I'd also appreciate any suggestions or advice from the group. I know unexpected foods (like ketchup) contain gluten - but do things like frozen yogurt? And if frozen yogurt is gluten-free, is it also free of egg whites? (I'll look up a comprehensive list on the web - I'm sure there's one somewhere.)

Meanwhile, if you have any resources to suggest, or ways I can begin to adjust to this new way of eating, I'd be grateful. Fortunately (!), I just lost my afternoon job, which means I can go back to eating from 3:30 to 8:30 (the best window I've ever found for me). Looking forward to starting that very soon - and of course at the same time figuring out the whole gluten-free, egg-white-free thing.

Thanks in advance for your help - I have some symptoms (like skin itching and eruptions that don't quite heal) that I'd LOVE to see go away - maybe doing this will make that happen!

Susan



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Tuesday, January 15, 2013

[fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice



Hi Sam! 

Thanks for the welcome and the encouragement.  My appetite is starting to calm down, so I'm feeling better.  I do believe in the Fast-5 lifestyle so I'm to keep plugging away.

Jameelah

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Sam" wrote:
>
>
> hi jameelah, and welcome. first i want to wish you luck and tell you this is a great lifestyle. when i first started, i ate a LOT during my window. i quit for a couple of months then started again because i believe in fast 5. after a year i will eat outside my window once or twice a month but overall, i don't want to go back to eating all the time. it's just too much food not to mention all the benefits of fasting for 19 hours.
>
> there are plenty of times though that i want to eat even when i am not hungry. before my window opens i just tell myself i am going to eat something really yummy but i'm going to wait little while. i get busy and next thing i know, it's been an hour or more and it's time to eat.
>
> in the evening when my window is closed if i start thinking about eating, i think about all the yummy things i'm going to eat ... tomorrow during my window. if i still have the urge i drink some peppermint tea. mmmm dessert!
>
> good luck and again welcome
>
> Sam
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Jameelah" wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone!
> > My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my eating window is about to close.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this? I know in the book it states that the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks. But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> >
> > Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>


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[fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

hi jameelah, and welcome. first i want to wish you luck and tell you this is a great lifestyle. when i first started, i ate a LOT during my window. i quit for a couple of months then started again because i believe in fast 5. after a year i will eat outside my window once or twice a month but overall, i don't want to go back to eating all the time. it's just too much food not to mention all the benefits of fasting for 19 hours.

there are plenty of times though that i want to eat even when i am not hungry. before my window opens i just tell myself i am going to eat something really yummy but i'm going to wait little while. i get busy and next thing i know, it's been an hour or more and it's time to eat.

in the evening when my window is closed if i start thinking about eating, i think about all the yummy things i'm going to eat ... tomorrow during my window. if i still have the urge i drink some peppermint tea. mmmm dessert!

good luck and again welcome

Sam


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Jameelah" wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
> My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my eating window is about to close.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this? I know in the book it states that the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks. But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
>
> Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>




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[fast5] Jameelah

How interesting, my name means "beautiful" too.
My husband grew up on Long Island until he was 12. He has fond memories of
that. I have a friend now on Long Island too.
Linda
WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's
PEACE.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jameelah" <jamminj2260@yahoo.com>
To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice


Hi Linda,
I just joined both Facebook Fast5 groups, I think I will be posting in the
closed group. I'm not keen on everyone being able to see everything I happen
to post there.

As for my name, Jameelah is Arabic. It means beautiful. I was born and
raised in NY on Long Island and am of African American decent. My uncle, who
was a Muslim(he is now deceased) suggested my mother name me Jameelah after
seeing me soon after I was born.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Linda McErlean" wrote:
>
>
> Jameelah,
>
> Yes, you do need support. I think Brenda and I are on every support Group
> there is. I'm interested in what your name means and where you are from.
> Linda
>
> WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's
> PEACE.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jameelah"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:35 PM
> Subject: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
>
>
> Thank you Phil, Brenda and Linda for responding so quickly. I appreciate
> that and you advice. I will try to not obsess over I have eaten and
> concentrate more on making wiser food choices in the future.
> I think I will join the Facebook group as well.
> Right now I need all the suppot I can get right now...lol
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Phil Voelker wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hola, Brenda! Â
> >
> > Glad you found it helpful. Â I'm just not a big fan of the term
> > "window,"
> > because then it seems like it needs to be some permanent thingy that can
> > never be altered. Â If you're a fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean
> > movies, then think of it like the Pirate's Code - not really a 'rule,'
> > just a 'guideline' (arrr!). Â :-) Â Eating for more than five hours
> > reduces the amount of benefit, but I gauge it against what I ate the day
> > before. Â I'm 6'4," so if I had a really low calorie intake one day (for
> > me, that means less than 1000 - 1500 calories), Â then I might break the
> > fast early the next day. Â Conversely, if I ate like a guy who just
> > escaped a dungeon, I might actually fast for a full 24 hours. Â Â
> >
> > I'd certainly not speak for Dr. Herring, but I've always interpreted the
> > book as something to provide insight as to how the body processes and
> > utilizes energy. Once you combine that with your own knowledge of how
> > your
> > own body works, Â food intake just becomes something that's less
> > stressful, more thoughtful, and not something that's depleting the
> > limits
> > of your will power.Â
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Brenda Gray
> > To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fast5] Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post.
> > Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window
> > wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
> >
> > :-) Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > >Hi, Jameelah -Â
> > >
> > >
> > >I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up
> > >all
> > >the time! Â I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for me.
> > >Â
> > >If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I trigger it
> > >with food, I tend to keep eating.Â
> > >
> > >
> > >These are things that I do that help:
> > >
> > >
> > >1. Â I try to break my fast in one of two ways: Â either with a protein
> > >shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies.Â
> > >2. Â I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last. Â
> > >Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein
> > >fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest.Â
> > >3. Â Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal. Â My
> > >window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but
> > >because
> > >I'm a 'night eater.' Â There's an american ex-general named Stanley
> > >McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for decades
> > >now,
> > >and he still runs/bikes miles each day. Â I like to adopt more of a
> > >"medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my eating window
> > >opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until the next day's
> > >adventure. Â It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own little mind
> > >trick.Â
> > >
> > >
> > >Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it. Â You're only a week
> > >in. Â Think of the book as some good information that you can use as
> > >specifically as you'd like to. Â You're still a human being and your
> > >life
> > >isn't always going to be the same. Â The better you use the knowledge
> > >and
> > >combine it with good food choices, the more directly you'll see
> > >results.
> > >Â One of the benefits of fasting should be that you don't worry so much
> > >about food. Â
> > >
> > >
> > >Phil
> > >Â
> > >Hi everyone!
> > >My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last
> > Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've
> > chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
> > need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with
> > fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little
> > hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
> > drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is
> > overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat
> > even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
> > eating window is about to close.
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
> > overcome this? I know in the book it states that
> > the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
> > But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the
> > urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a
> > difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> > >
> > >Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >No virus found in this message.
> > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > >Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6030 - Release Date:
> > 01/13/13
> >
>
>
>
>
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Monday, January 14, 2013

[fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

Hi Linda,
I just joined both Facebook Fast5 groups, I think I will be posting in the closed group. I'm not keen on everyone being able to see everything I happen to post there.

As for my name, Jameelah is Arabic. It means beautiful. I was born and raised in NY on Long Island and am of African American decent. My uncle, who was a Muslim(he is now deceased) suggested my mother name me Jameelah after seeing me soon after I was born.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Linda McErlean" wrote:
>
>
> Jameelah,
>
> Yes, you do need support. I think Brenda and I are on every support Group
> there is. I'm interested in what your name means and where you are from.
> Linda
>
> WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's
> PEACE.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jameelah"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:35 PM
> Subject: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
>
>
> Thank you Phil, Brenda and Linda for responding so quickly. I appreciate
> that and you advice. I will try to not obsess over I have eaten and
> concentrate more on making wiser food choices in the future.
> I think I will join the Facebook group as well.
> Right now I need all the suppot I can get right now...lol
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Phil Voelker wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hola, Brenda! Â
> >
> > Glad you found it helpful. Â I'm just not a big fan of the term "window,"
> > because then it seems like it needs to be some permanent thingy that can
> > never be altered. Â If you're a fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean
> > movies, then think of it like the Pirate's Code - not really a 'rule,'
> > just a 'guideline' (arrr!). Â :-) Â Eating for more than five hours
> > reduces the amount of benefit, but I gauge it against what I ate the day
> > before. Â I'm 6'4," so if I had a really low calorie intake one day (for
> > me, that means less than 1000 - 1500 calories), Â then I might break the
> > fast early the next day. Â Conversely, if I ate like a guy who just
> > escaped a dungeon, I might actually fast for a full 24 hours. Â Â
> >
> > I'd certainly not speak for Dr. Herring, but I've always interpreted the
> > book as something to provide insight as to how the body processes and
> > utilizes energy. Once you combine that with your own knowledge of how your
> > own body works, Â food intake just becomes something that's less
> > stressful, more thoughtful, and not something that's depleting the limits
> > of your will power.Â
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Brenda Gray
> > To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fast5] Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post.
> > Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window
> > wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
> >
> > :-) Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > >Hi, Jameelah -Â
> > >
> > >
> > >I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up all
> > >the time! Â I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for me. Â
> > >If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I trigger it
> > >with food, I tend to keep eating.Â
> > >
> > >
> > >These are things that I do that help:
> > >
> > >
> > >1. Â I try to break my fast in one of two ways: Â either with a protein
> > >shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies.Â
> > >2. Â I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last. Â
> > >Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein
> > >fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest.Â
> > >3. Â Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal. Â My
> > >window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but because
> > >I'm a 'night eater.' Â There's an american ex-general named Stanley
> > >McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for decades now,
> > >and he still runs/bikes miles each day. Â I like to adopt more of a
> > >"medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my eating window
> > >opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until the next day's
> > >adventure. Â It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own little mind
> > >trick.Â
> > >
> > >
> > >Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it. Â You're only a week
> > >in. Â Think of the book as some good information that you can use as
> > >specifically as you'd like to. Â You're still a human being and your life
> > >isn't always going to be the same. Â The better you use the knowledge and
> > >combine it with good food choices, the more directly you'll see results.
> > >Â One of the benefits of fasting should be that you don't worry so much
> > >about food. Â
> > >
> > >
> > >Phil
> > >Â
> > >Hi everyone!
> > >My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last
> > Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've
> > chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
> > need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with
> > fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little
> > hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
> > drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is
> > overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat
> > even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
> > eating window is about to close.
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
> > overcome this? I know in the book it states that
> > the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
> > But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the
> > urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a
> > difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> > >
> > >Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >No virus found in this message.
> > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > >Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6030 - Release Date:
> > 01/13/13
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

Why do you say grains are especially harmful? This seems to be the new
craze. Give up Wheat.

Linda
WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's
PEACE.


----- Original Message -----
From: "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@gmail.com>
To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice


>I agree that amount of continuous fasting hours (low insulin period) is
>more important than any eating "window". I tend to eat noonish rather than
>the stereotypical supertime in evening. With a tendency of one meal a day.
>Don't forget the Good fat including eggs, yolks especially, for
>sticktoittiveness. Plenty of good fat and protein means you don't count
>calories, as grains as a carb are especially harmful.
>
> Barnaby
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Brenda Gray wrote:
>>
>> Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post.
>> Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window
>> wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
>>
>> :-) Brenda
>>
>>
>> On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
>> > Hi, Jameelah -
>> >
>> > I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up
>> > all the time! I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for
>> > me. If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I
>> > trigger it with food, I tend to keep eating.
>> >
>> > These are things that I do that help:
>> >
>> > 1. I try to break my fast in one of two ways: either with a protein
>> > shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies.
>> > 2. I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last.
>> > Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein
>> > fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest.
>> > 3. Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal. My
>> > window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but
>> > because I'm a 'night eater.' There's an american ex-general named
>> > Stanley McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for
>> > decades now, and he still runs/bikes miles each day. I like to adopt
>> > more of a "medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my
>> > eating window opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until
>> > the next day's adventure. It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own
>> > little mind trick.
>> >
>> > Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it. You're only a week
>> > in. Think of the book as some good information that you can use as
>> > specifically as you'd like to. You're still a human being and your
>> > life isn't always going to be the same. The better you use the
>> > knowledge and combine it with good food choices, the more directly
>> > you'll see results. One of the benefits of fasting should be that you
>> > don't worry so much about food.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> > Hi everyone!
>> > My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last Thursday after reading
>> > the ebook twice. I've chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
>> > need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with fasting during the 20
>> > hrs; I have had a little hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
>> > drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is overeating when I do eat. I
>> > have the urge to eat even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
>> > eating window is about to close.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this? I know in
>> > the book it states that the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
>> > But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the urge to stuff myself
>> > like this. Does it make a difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
>> >
>> > Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No virus found in this message.
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6030 - Release Date:
>> > 01/13/13
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

Jameelah,

Yes, you do need support. I think Brenda and I are on every support Group
there is. I'm interested in what your name means and where you are from.
Linda

WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's
PEACE.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jameelah" <jamminj2260@yahoo.com>
To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: [fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice


Thank you Phil, Brenda and Linda for responding so quickly. I appreciate
that and you advice. I will try to not obsess over I have eaten and
concentrate more on making wiser food choices in the future.
I think I will join the Facebook group as well.
Right now I need all the suppot I can get right now...lol

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Phil Voelker wrote:
>
>
>
> Hola, Brenda! Â
>
> Glad you found it helpful. Â I'm just not a big fan of the term "window,"
> because then it seems like it needs to be some permanent thingy that can
> never be altered. Â If you're a fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean
> movies, then think of it like the Pirate's Code - not really a 'rule,'
> just a 'guideline' (arrr!). Â :-) Â Eating for more than five hours
> reduces the amount of benefit, but I gauge it against what I ate the day
> before. Â I'm 6'4," so if I had a really low calorie intake one day (for
> me, that means less than 1000 - 1500 calories), Â then I might break the
> fast early the next day. Â Conversely, if I ate like a guy who just
> escaped a dungeon, I might actually fast for a full 24 hours. Â Â
>
> I'd certainly not speak for Dr. Herring, but I've always interpreted the
> book as something to provide insight as to how the body processes and
> utilizes energy. Once you combine that with your own knowledge of how your
> own body works, Â food intake just becomes something that's less
> stressful, more thoughtful, and not something that's depleting the limits
> of your will power.Â
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brenda Gray
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
>
>
> Â
> Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post.
> Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window
> wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
>
> :-) Brenda
>
>
>
> On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
>
> Â
> >Hi, Jameelah -Â
> >
> >
> >I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up all
> >the time! Â I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for me. Â
> >If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I trigger it
> >with food, I tend to keep eating.Â
> >
> >
> >These are things that I do that help:
> >
> >
> >1. Â I try to break my fast in one of two ways: Â either with a protein
> >shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies.Â
> >2. Â I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last. Â
> >Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein
> >fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest.Â
> >3. Â Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal. Â My
> >window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but because
> >I'm a 'night eater.' Â There's an american ex-general named Stanley
> >McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for decades now,
> >and he still runs/bikes miles each day. Â I like to adopt more of a
> >"medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my eating window
> >opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until the next day's
> >adventure. Â It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own little mind
> >trick.Â
> >
> >
> >Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it. Â You're only a week
> >in. Â Think of the book as some good information that you can use as
> >specifically as you'd like to. Â You're still a human being and your life
> >isn't always going to be the same. Â The better you use the knowledge and
> >combine it with good food choices, the more directly you'll see results.
> >Â One of the benefits of fasting should be that you don't worry so much
> >about food. Â
> >
> >
> >Phil
> >Â
> >Hi everyone!
> >My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last
> Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've
> chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
> need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with
> fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little
> hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
> drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is
> overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat
> even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
> eating window is about to close.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
> overcome this? I know in the book it states that
> the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
> But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the
> urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a
> difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> >
> >Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >No virus found in this message.
> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6030 - Release Date:
> 01/13/13
>




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[fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

I agree that amount of continuous fasting hours (low insulin period) is more important than any eating "window". I tend to eat noonish rather than the stereotypical supertime in evening. With a tendency of one meal a day. Don't forget the Good fat including eggs, yolks especially, for sticktoittiveness. Plenty of good fat and protein means you don't count calories, as grains as a carb are especially harmful.

Barnaby

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Brenda Gray wrote:
>
> Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post.
> Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window
> wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
>
> :-) Brenda
>
>
> On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
> > Hi, Jameelah -
> >
> > I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up
> > all the time! I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for
> > me. If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I
> > trigger it with food, I tend to keep eating.
> >
> > These are things that I do that help:
> >
> > 1. I try to break my fast in one of two ways: either with a protein
> > shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies.
> > 2. I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last.
> > Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein
> > fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest.
> > 3. Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal. My
> > window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but
> > because I'm a 'night eater.' There's an american ex-general named
> > Stanley McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for
> > decades now, and he still runs/bikes miles each day. I like to adopt
> > more of a "medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my
> > eating window opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until
> > the next day's adventure. It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own
> > little mind trick.
> >
> > Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it. You're only a week
> > in. Think of the book as some good information that you can use as
> > specifically as you'd like to. You're still a human being and your
> > life isn't always going to be the same. The better you use the
> > knowledge and combine it with good food choices, the more directly
> > you'll see results. One of the benefits of fasting should be that you
> > don't worry so much about food.
> >
> > Phil
> > Hi everyone!
> > My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last Thursday after reading
> > the ebook twice. I've chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
> > need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with fasting during the 20
> > hrs; I have had a little hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
> > drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is overeating when I do eat. I
> > have the urge to eat even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
> > eating window is about to close.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this? I know in
> > the book it states that the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
> > But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the urge to stuff myself
> > like this. Does it make a difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> >
> > Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6030 - Release Date: 01/13/13
> >
>




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[fast5] Re: Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

Thank you Phil, Brenda and Linda for responding so quickly. I appreciate that and you advice. I will try to not obsess over I have eaten and concentrate more on making wiser food choices in the future.
I think I will join the Facebook group as well.
Right now I need all the suppot I can get right now...lol

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Phil Voelker wrote:
>
>
>
> Hola, Brenda!  
>
> Glad you found it helpful.  I'm just not a big fan of the term "window," because then it seems like it needs to be some permanent thingy that can never be altered.  If you're a fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, then think of it like the Pirate's Code - not really a 'rule,' just a 'guideline' (arrr!).  :-)   Eating for more than five hours reduces the amount of benefit, but I gauge it against what I ate the day before.  I'm 6'4," so if I had a really low calorie intake one day (for me, that means less than 1000 - 1500 calories),  then I might break the fast early the next day.  Conversely, if I ate like a guy who just escaped a dungeon, I might actually fast for a full 24 hours.   
>
> I'd certainly not speak for Dr. Herring, but I've always interpreted the book as something to provide insight as to how the body processes and utilizes energy. Once you combine that with your own knowledge of how your own body works,  food intake just becomes something that's less stressful, more thoughtful, and not something that's depleting the limits of your will power. 
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brenda Gray
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [fast5] Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice
>
>
>  
> Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post. Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.
>
> :-) Brenda
>
>
>
> On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
>
>  
> >Hi, Jameelah - 
> >
> >
> >I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up all the time!  I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for me.  If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I trigger it with food, I tend to keep eating. 
> >
> >
> >These are things that I do that help:
> >
> >
> >1.  I try to break my fast in one of two ways:  either with a protein shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies. 
> >2.  I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last.  Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest. 
> >3.  Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal.  My window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but because I'm a 'night eater.'  There's an american ex-general named Stanley McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for decades now, and he still runs/bikes miles each day.  I like to adopt more of a "medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my eating window opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until the next day's adventure.  It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own little mind trick. 
> >
> >
> >Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it.  You're only a week in.  Think of the book as some good information that you can use as specifically as you'd like to.  You're still a human being and your life isn't always going to be the same.  The better you use the knowledge and combine it with good food choices, the more directly you'll see results.  One of the benefits of fasting should be that you don't worry so much about food.  
> >
> >
> >Phil
> > 
> >Hi everyone!
> >My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last
> Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've
> chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I
> need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with
> fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little
> hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with
> drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is
> overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat
> even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my
> eating window is about to close.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
> overcome this? I know in the book it states that
> the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks.
> But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the
> urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a
> difference that I started 'cold turkey'?
> >
> >Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Ok Brenda time to join you on the other group!
WORRYING does not take away tomorrow's TROUBLES, it takes away today's PEACE.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [fast5] Just Started Fast-5 and In Need Of Advice

Phil, I'm not Jameelah, but I want to thank you very much for that post. Helpful. I am now in week 5 and still battling with using my window wisely. You gave some very helpful hints which I can and will use.

:-) Brenda


On 15/01/2013 10:47 a.m., Phil Voelker wrote:
 
Hi, Jameelah - 

I did a couple of things to curb my overeating, which still crops up all the time!  I'm a "binge eater" which is why Fast 5 works well for me.  If I'm not eating then my hunger response is minimal; once I trigger it with food, I tend to keep eating. 

These are things that I do that help:

1.  I try to break my fast in one of two ways:  either with a protein shake and a big glass of water, or with a large plate of veggies. 
2.  I prioritize my eating with proteins and fats, with carbs last.  Not only is it smart from a nutrition/calorie standpoint, but protein fills you up and takes more work for the body to digest. 
3.  Many days I'll shorten my eating window to just one big meal.  My window is similar to yours, not because I need to be in bed, but because I'm a 'night eater.'  There's an american ex-general named Stanley McChrystal who is famous for only eating one meal a day for decades now, and he still runs/bikes miles each day.  I like to adopt more of a "medieval adventurer" mindset, and pretend that when my eating window opens, it's because I've decided to "make camp" until the next day's adventure.  It sounds silly, I know - but it's my own little mind trick. 

Also - and I'd stress this - don't worry about it.  You're only a week in.  Think of the book as some good information that you can use as specifically as you'd like to.  You're still a human being and your life isn't always going to be the same.  The better you use the knowledge and combine it with good food choices, the more directly you'll see results.  One of the benefits of fasting should be that you don't worry so much about food.  

Phil
 
Hi everyone!
My name is Jameelah and I started Fast-5 last Thursday after reading the ebook twice. I've chosen to make my eating window 5p - 9p since I need to be in bed by 10p. I have no problem with fasting during the 20 hrs; I have had a little hunger but nothing I couldn't handle with drinking water or tea. My biggest issue is overeating when I do eat. I have the urge to eat even though I'm not hungry. Especially when my eating window is about to close.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this? I know in the book it states that the adjustment period can take up to 3 weeks. But I can't see myself going 3 weeks with the urge to stuff myself like this. Does it make a difference that I started 'cold turkey'?

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!



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