Monday, May 31, 2010

Re: [fast5] Re: konjac



Hee hee. Well, those people were eating other stuff besides konjac. Konjac is actually digested, so it doesn't add to bulk. Rather the reverse, actually, which is why I combine it with psyllium, which does add bulk. People who eat a lot of plant material ... much of the cellulose just isn't digestible at all. 


In the article it points out that the truly undigestible fibers ... like grain bran ... aren't really the desirable ones. What you want, ideally, are the semi-digestible polysaccharides. The best ones that I've read about (and tried) are konjac, pectin, and psyllium, in about that order. Also seaweed.


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I hear what you're saying, but two pound turds?  Good Lord!!!


 


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[fast5] Re: konjac

I hear what you're saying, but two pound turds? Good Lord!!!


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> Ha. Someone else finally figured out about glucomannan!
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/fiber-health-the-super-fi_b_594153.html
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/fiber-health-the-super-fi_b_594153.html>
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Saturday, May 29, 2010

[fast5] konjac



Ha. Someone else finally figured out about glucomannan!



  


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Thursday, May 27, 2010

[fast5] Understanding the Relationship Between Bacteria and Obesity



Understanding the Relationship Between Bacteria and Obesity

ScienceDaily (May 26, 2010) — Research sheds new light on the role bacteria in the digestive tract may play in obesity. The studies, which were presented at the 110th General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology, paint a picture that may be more complex than originally thought.

"Work currently underway suggests that an interaction between genetic factors and the composition of the bacteria that inhabit the human gut may predispose certain individuals towards obesity. These results potentially provide insight into the mechanisms by which genetics may predispose some people to obesity. They could also help pave the way towards a future in which genetic screening in conjunction with individually tailored treatments could help people at risk for obesity to maintain a healthy weight," says Margaret Zupancic, of the Institute for Genome Sciences at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, who presented one of the studies.

Zupancic and her colleagues analyzed the gut bacterial communities of lean and obese individuals belonging to the Old Order Amish of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania -- a population relatively homogenous in regard to both genetics and lifestyle. Initially they found no correlation between the composition of the gut bacteria and obesity, but when they factored in the genetic makeup of the participants, certain patterns began to emerge.

One pattern was a statistically significant correlation between whether the participant carried a given variant of the FTO gene (a gene associated with obesity) and the presence of certain bacterial groups in the digestive tract.

The researchers also found that in people with certain genetic variations in taste receptor genes, a low level of bacterial diversity in the gut correlated with a higher likelihood of obesity, while a high level of diversity correlated with a lower likelihood of obesity.

"While this work is still at a relatively early stage, results such as these could lead to applications such as probiotic or antibiotic-based treatments for obesity that could be individualized based on a person's unique genetic and gut microbial makeup," says Zupancic.

Another study from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center analyzed the gut microbes of women between 40 and 45 years of age. The researchers found a positive correlation between the population of one specific type of bacteria, Bacteroidetes, and body fat percentage in the participants.

Not all research presented at the meeting found differences in bacterial populations in the gut and obesity. One study, focusing specifically on children and childhood obesity, failed to identify any significant differences in the gut microbial communities of obese and normal-weight children.

The researchers subsequently analyzed the ability of the microbes to extract and convert dietary energy. They found higher levels of short-chain fatty acids in the feces of obese children.

"This suggests that although obese and normal-weight children have similar gut microbial communities, the gut microbes in obese children are more efficient at converting dietary substrates into energy," says Amanda Payne of the Institute of Food Health and Nutrition ETH, Zurich, Switzerland.

Short-chain fatty acids are converted into triglycerides and glucose by the liver, a process estimated to provide an additional 10% of dietary energy. The increased production of short-chain fatty acids by gut microbes in obese children could potentially supply more dietary energy, resulting in weight gain.

"While the importance of a balanced diet and regular exercise should not be discounted, our results may help contribute to the development of novel approaches in treating childhood obesity by modulating the composition and activity of the gut microbiota in order to reduce energy extraction from undigested food," says Payne.



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[fast5] Microarray analysis of high-glucose diet-induced changes in mRNA expression in jejunums of C57BL/6J mice reveals impairment in digestion, absorption.



Microarray analysis of high-glucose diet-induced changes in mRNA expression in jejunums of C57BL/6J mice reveals impairment in digestion, absorption.

Du D, Shi YH, Le GW.

State Key Lab of Food Science and Technology, Jiangnan University, 1800 Lihu Road, 214122, Wuxi, Jiangsu Province, China.

Abstract

Long term intake of high-glucose diet (HGD) may induce many diseases such as dyslipidemia, fatty liver and diabetes disease. Most of the research for molecular mechanisms of the association between HGD and the above diseases focus on the metabolism of glucose and lipid. However, there are few studies on molecular mechanism of the effect of HGD on digestion and absorption. We used HGD (containing 20% glucose) to feed C57BL/6J mice for 4 weeks, detected the expressions of 13,098 genes in jejunums of C57BL/6J mice with DNA microarray. Microarray analysis showed the expression of genes related to digestive enzyme, gastrointestinal peptide and nutrient transporters were significantly changed, which indicated that HGD induced the suppression of digestive enzyme gene expression, attenuation of alimentary tract movement and nutrient transportation. In one word, the microarray analysis suggested that HGD impaired the function of digestion and absorption in jejunum of C57BL/6J mice. We validated our microarray findings by conducting real-time RT-PCR assays on selected genes and detecting the activities of disaccharidases such as lactase, maltase and sucrase in jejunum of C57BL/6J mice.





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Tuesday, May 25, 2010

[fast5] Re: no more hot flashes????

Hi all,
thanks for the quick reply.I googled a lot and found this very interesting page.Makes sense...

http://sites.google.com/site/swabymanor/drmccleary%27sbraintrustprogramsupplementl

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Monday, May 24, 2010

[fast5] Hi! I'm new

Hi everyone!

I'm new to Fast 5, I just started yesterday and so far so good.It just really makes sense to me.I did do JUDDDD before starting this and while it worked at first but then it has stopped and it was harder for me to control myself on my Up days.For this, I don't have to worry because the choice is 0 for food and so far so good! :)


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Sunday, May 23, 2010

Re: [fast5] Re: no more hot flashes????



"Unhealthy lifestyles and genetic conditions can lead to the pancreas overproducing insulin. This excess insulin stimulates the ovaries to produce large amounts of the male hormone testosterone, which may prevent the ovaries from releasing an egg each month, thus causing infertility. High levels of insulin also increase the conversion of androgens (male hormones) to estrogens (female hormones), upsetting a delicate balance between the two and having a direct effect on weight gain and the formation of cystic follicles or ovarian cysts." http://pcos.insulitelabs.com/
 
Insulin affects so many things - and female hormones. I assume that even post-menapause insulin may still "mess" with hormone balance. Fast 5 and zero carb controll insulin. Since starting fast-5 my pms has become so much better and my periods are shorter and lighter. I only expect it to get better on zero carb.
 
this could be a reason why your hot flashes have gone away. If you search "low carb hot flashes" in a search engine you will find many people talking about how this has helped them.
 
rebecca


 
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I don't know for sure, but my own dietary expliots seem to have stopped "night sweats" for me. I don't think mine were what you call hot flashes though.
 
Asian women, it is said, do not get hot flashes. Some people attribute this to soy, but I basically think the Asian diet makes the whole metabolism work differently, in somewhat the same way Fast-5 does. I basically am doing both: my diet is more Asian than American, and that jump-started my weight loss again. (I don't do soy much though, so I don't think soy is the issue. Soy doesn't have much effect on me one way or the other).
The thing about "carbs" though is that there are a whole lot of issues with them, besides the "carbs". For instance:
 
Potatoes: Contain solanine, which is basically a toxin. Some people handle it better than others.
 
Wheat: About 1/4 of the population has an immune reaction to it, some worse than others.
 
Packaged bread/cookies: Contain a ton of additives, all of which have effects. In the US, iron is added, and the added iron might have something to do with hot flashes.
 
Fruit: contains a fair bit of Vitamin C, which causes iron to be absorbed better (again, may affect hot flashes). Fruit also contains fructose, which is not handled well by a surprisingly large number of people.
 
 
I'm not on a low carb diet, but most of my carbs come from non-enriched white rice, honey, or fruit (but I don't eat fruit with meat). This works nicely. I don't know why honey would work better than sugar, but it seems to. Plus it tastes better.
 

 
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Doris <doris.krucker@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi gys
Im on f5 for about 9 months or so.I started lowcarb high fat last sunday
because I just wanted to try it.I was curious how this works for me.
And now all my hotflashes just vanished!?
Well, I never expected this and now I wonder if it will last or if this
is just momentary.
Anyone out there got a clue?
I do love the lowcarb highfat food and I stay on it to see whats happening.
Lots of greetings from Switzerland
Doris




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Saturday, May 22, 2010

Re: [fast5] Re: no more hot flashes????



I don't know for sure, but my own dietary expliots seem to have stopped "night sweats" for me. I don't think mine were what you call hot flashes though.
 
Asian women, it is said, do not get hot flashes. Some people attribute this to soy, but I basically think the Asian diet makes the whole metabolism work differently, in somewhat the same way Fast-5 does. I basically am doing both: my diet is more Asian than American, and that jump-started my weight loss again. (I don't do soy much though, so I don't think soy is the issue. Soy doesn't have much effect on me one way or the other).
The thing about "carbs" though is that there are a whole lot of issues with them, besides the "carbs". For instance:
 
Potatoes: Contain solanine, which is basically a toxin. Some people handle it better than others.
 
Wheat: About 1/4 of the population has an immune reaction to it, some worse than others.
 
Packaged bread/cookies: Contain a ton of additives, all of which have effects. In the US, iron is added, and the added iron might have something to do with hot flashes.
 
Fruit: contains a fair bit of Vitamin C, which causes iron to be absorbed better (again, may affect hot flashes). Fruit also contains fructose, which is not handled well by a surprisingly large number of people.
 
 
I'm not on a low carb diet, but most of my carbs come from non-enriched white rice, honey, or fruit (but I don't eat fruit with meat). This works nicely. I don't know why honey would work better than sugar, but it seems to. Plus it tastes better.
 

 
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Doris <doris.krucker@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi gys
Im on f5 for about 9 months or so.I started lowcarb high fat last sunday
because I just wanted to try it.I was curious how this works for me.
And now all my hotflashes just vanished!?
Well, I never expected this and now I wonder if it will last or if this
is just momentary.
Anyone out there got a clue?
I do love the lowcarb highfat food and I stay on it to see whats happening.
Lots of greetings from Switzerland
Doris




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[fast5] Re: no more hot flashes????

Hi gys
Im on f5 for about 9 months or so.I started lowcarb high fat last sunday
because I just wanted to try it.I was curious how this works for me.
And now all my hotflashes just vanished!?
Well, I never expected this and now I wonder if it will last or if this
is just momentary.
Anyone out there got a clue?
I do love the lowcarb highfat food and I stay on it to see whats happening.
Lots of greetings from Switzerland
Doris


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[fast5] no more hot flahes????

Hi gys
Im on f5 for about 9 months or so.I started lowcarb high fat last sunday
because I just wanted to try it.I was curious how this works for me.
And now all my hotflshes just vanished!?
Well, I never expected this and now I wonder if it will last or if this
is just momentary.
Anyone out there got a clue?
I do love the lowcarb highfat food and I stay on it to see whats happening.
Lots of greetings from Switzerland
Doris

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Friday, May 21, 2010

[fast5] Re: Before And After Pictures

Oh I don't know, I think you looked better before. ;)

he he, just kidding.

Pretty dramatic change, really. Great job!

-Rick

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> I can't believe how I used to look..I've come a long way baby!
> http://www.thefastinglife.com/2010/05/whos-that-lady.html
> <http://www.thefastinglife.com/2010/05/whos-that-lady.html>
> Happy Fasting!!
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[fast5] Re: Carbs against Cardio: More Evidence that Refined Carbohydrates, not Fats, Threaten the Heart

Nice article. Good find.


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> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-against-cardio
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> Interesting that they emphazire refined carbohydrates.
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[fast5] Re: Post-break-fast wipeout and the coffee creamer question

Very interesting Heather, thanks.

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> The other common issue is an actual immune reaction to the food, esp. IgA
> and IgG reactions. IgA reactions happen in the gut, and they are the gut
> version of, say, sneezing when you get around ragweed. The IgA reaction to
> wheat is very, very common. That particular reaction is known to make one
> foggy-headed. The wheat/gut reaction causes the tight junctures in the gut
> to temporarily open, which leads to a host of other issues too. (You can
> read about Fasano's work online: google "Fasano zonulin".


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Thursday, May 20, 2010

[fast5] my testimonial (lost 20 lbs in 6 weeks)



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What I have found is that I don't digest certain starches well. Some people lack some sugar digesting enzymes. When that happens, the undigested sugars become food for bacteria or yeast, and it's their growth that causes the issues. You do want to feed your gut bacteria, but sugar and simple starches are not the correct food for them. Fructose, for some reason, is one of the sugars that many human beings have a hard time digesting. Which seems odd, because it is very common in nature.


One of the solutions for that issue is to get your stomach to empty less quickly. The two methods I know for that are 1) vinegar (dunno WHY it does that, but it does according to what I've read) or 2) konjac/glucomannan. There are probably other ways too: combining starches with protein and oils, for one. Eating salad with vinegar and oil first. Eating proteins and green vegies first. Slowing down gut motility also helps with the insulin surge.

Some foods also cause serotonin production, which just plain makes you sleepy. It's not just in insulin-sensitive people: animals will often eat and then sleep afterward. In the case of a snake, they sleep for like a week. Digestion takes a lot of work, and some of your blood supply is rerouted to your gut. Personally I think a siesta after a meal isn't a bad idea. Some foods also have tryptophan which makes you sleepy: turkey is noted for this! There are foods that do the opposite though. Fish has proteins that make you more wakeful. Turmeric too: a good curry will make you more alert.

The other common issue is an actual immune reaction to the food, esp. IgA and IgG reactions. IgA reactions happen in the gut, and they are the gut version of, say, sneezing when you get around ragweed. The IgA reaction to wheat is very, very common. That particular reaction is known to make one foggy-headed. The wheat/gut reaction causes the tight junctures in the gut to temporarily open, which leads to a host of other issues too. (You can read about Fasano's work online: google "Fasano zonulin". 

I think milk is designed by nature to be sleep-inducing too, at least for humans. The baby drinks, gets full, and zonks out, which makes babies a lot easier to schlep around on your back, which is what humans did until they invented car seats.



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Welcome.

1) An apple has a glycemic load of 6 which is low so that shouldn't be an issue.  Rice can have a medium to high glycemic load depending on the variety.  Wheat varies from whole grain wheat bread with a low glycemic load of 7.6 to white wheat bread with a high glycemic load of 25+.  So I would definitely forgo any rice or white bread while trying to lose weight (or any grains for that matter).  But if you feel like you HAVE to have some kind of bread, stick to the whole grain style.  Whole oat bread seems to have a pretty low glycemic load.  I just find that eating grains makes me crave more food.

2) I noticed that using cream in my coffee or tea had a VERY negative  effect on weight loss for me.  One tbsp is something like 50 calories.  But I can't wrap my head around using just one tbsp so I would just use what made it taste good.  To me, that was an extra 300-500 calories a day as I used to drink a lot of coffee.  Eventually I started adding brown sugar to my coffee and cream during my window, which couldn't be good for my arteries or my waistline.  I thought, "Well, it's my window, I can have what I want".  But I sat down and took inventory and figured out that I was eating and drinking WAY too many calories during my window.  So I cut out coffee, cream, beer, wine, grains, dairy, and just about anything that doesn't grow outside in nature that our paleolithic ancestors would have eaten and the weight just flew off.  But to answer your question, yes, cream made a big difference in my weight loss because I can't just have a little.  :)

Rick Stewart



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> 1)  When I break my fast, if I have certain foods, I feel pretty crappy. My heart pounds/races and my brain is extremely foggy for an hour-ish.  Much more extreme than any post-prandial slump I've ever had.
>
> So far I've correlated these foods, I *think*, to those which are high GI.  Rice, apples, and wheat so far.  So my question is...is this an insulin spike, do you think? IE, my blood sugar is low from the fast, but the food spikes insulin anyways when the food hasn't actually gotten to the blood yet, so it crashes my blood sugar? Or could it be that my stomach is just working really hard and demanding all the blood?  If I eat only my favorite break-fast (avocado and bacon and maybe fried eggs), then wait a while, I can then eat high GI foods in small quantities with no problem.
>
> Obviously this is a case of "well, don't do that then!" *grin* But I am curious whether this is an indication of my general state of health. IE, am I actually insulin resistant?
>
> 2) Everything I read says NO CREAMER WHILE FASTING!  I did well with that for a while, but eventually I caved and had creamer. And for a few weeks it didn't seem to make diddly-squat of a difference. But then the loss slowed down. I'm inclined to think that some sugar that I ate was the cause, but still, I wanted to ask...has anyone here ever personally found that adding/removing creamer changed their weight loss?
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[fast5] Re: Post-break-fast wipeout and the coffee creamer question

Thanks Rebecca! I don't suppose you have any good links for where you've been learning about the symptoms of insulin resistence? I found one list of 8 symptoms via google, but it's fairly barebones.

I have to admit, I'm sorely intrigued by zero-carb, even though I know it would be rough. (I can give up the heavy hitters, but I've become rather fanatical about my avocados and berries.) The real challenge is the spouse.

Then again, he was a pure carnivore when I met him. Hunted all his own food, no less. Never got sick, had ridiculous energy levels, lean as a whip...hmm, y'know maybe I can use nostalgia to woo him away from his fries... >:D

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Rebecca Cason <yellowcason@...> wrote:
>
> Ive been learning alot about insulin lately. One of the symptoms of high
> insulin and insulin resistance is post-meal crashes. Im sure you know about
> Pavlov's dog and how he trained them to respond to bells for dinner time.
> Most people I talk to think that that was it - that the bells mean dinner.
> But what people dont know is that the real experiment was that the animals
> secreted insulin in ANTICIPATION of the meal as well. Of course everyone is
> different. But this could be happening. Protien first, according the all
> that I have read seems to stabalize this.
> I was definatly insulin resistant but I didnt realize how much so untill I
> went Zero Carb about a week ago.
> Rebecca
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, foxchyck <foxeye@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello :) New member, though I've been following the 5-hour-window habit for
> > several months now with a lot of good things to say about this way of
> > eating. Learned a lot and am about 15 lbs lighter, 20 if you count the water
> > weight I'm less likely to tote around (though it comes back if I have the
> > wrong foods, of course).
> >
> > I have two unrelated questions for you more experienced folks.
> >
> > 1) When I break my fast, if I have certain foods, I feel pretty crappy. My
> > heart pounds/races and my brain is extremely foggy for an hour-ish. Much
> > more extreme than any post-prandial slump I've ever had.
> >
> > So far I've correlated these foods, I *think*, to those which are high GI.
> > Rice, apples, and wheat so far. So my question is...is this an insulin
> > spike, do you think? IE, my blood sugar is low from the fast, but the food
> > spikes insulin anyways when the food hasn't actually gotten to the blood
> > yet, so it crashes my blood sugar? Or could it be that my stomach is just
> > working really hard and demanding all the blood? If I eat only my favorite
> > break-fast (avocado and bacon and maybe fried eggs), then wait a while, I
> > can then eat high GI foods in small quantities with no problem.
> >
> > Obviously this is a case of "well, don't do that then!" *grin* But I am
> > curious whether this is an indication of my general state of health. IE, am
> > I actually insulin resistant?
> >
> > 2) Everything I read says NO CREAMER WHILE FASTING! I did well with that
> > for a while, but eventually I caved and had creamer. And for a few weeks it
> > didn't seem to make diddly-squat of a difference. But then the loss slowed
> > down. I'm inclined to think that some sugar that I ate was the cause, but
> > still, I wanted to ask...has anyone here ever personally found that
> > adding/removing creamer changed their weight loss?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[fast5] Re: Post-break-fast wipeout and the coffee creamer question

Welcome.

1) An apple has a glycemic load of 6 which is low so that shouldn't be an issue. Rice can have a medium to high glycemic load depending on the variety. Wheat varies from whole grain wheat bread with a low glycemic load of 7.6 to white wheat bread with a high glycemic load of 25+. So I would definitely forgo any rice or white bread while trying to lose weight (or any grains for that matter). But if you feel like you HAVE to have some kind of bread, stick to the whole grain style. Whole oat bread seems to have a pretty low glycemic load. I just find that eating grains makes me crave more food.

2) I noticed that using cream in my coffee or tea had a VERY negative effect on weight loss for me. One tbsp is something like 50 calories. But I can't wrap my head around using just one tbsp so I would just use what made it taste good. To me, that was an extra 300-500 calories a day as I used to drink a lot of coffee. Eventually I started adding brown sugar to my coffee and cream during my window, which couldn't be good for my arteries or my waistline. I thought, "Well, it's my window, I can have what I want". But I sat down and took inventory and figured out that I was eating and drinking WAY too many calories during my window. So I cut out coffee, cream, beer, wine, grains, dairy, and just about anything that doesn't grow outside in nature that our paleolithic ancestors would have eaten and the weight just flew off. But to answer your question, yes, cream made a big difference in my weight loss because I can't just have a little. :)

Rick Stewart

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> 1) When I break my fast, if I have certain foods, I feel pretty crappy. My heart pounds/races and my brain is extremely foggy for an hour-ish. Much more extreme than any post-prandial slump I've ever had.
>
> So far I've correlated these foods, I *think*, to those which are high GI. Rice, apples, and wheat so far. So my question is...is this an insulin spike, do you think? IE, my blood sugar is low from the fast, but the food spikes insulin anyways when the food hasn't actually gotten to the blood yet, so it crashes my blood sugar? Or could it be that my stomach is just working really hard and demanding all the blood? If I eat only my favorite break-fast (avocado and bacon and maybe fried eggs), then wait a while, I can then eat high GI foods in small quantities with no problem.
>
> Obviously this is a case of "well, don't do that then!" *grin* But I am curious whether this is an indication of my general state of health. IE, am I actually insulin resistant?
>
> 2) Everything I read says NO CREAMER WHILE FASTING! I did well with that for a while, but eventually I caved and had creamer. And for a few weeks it didn't seem to make diddly-squat of a difference. But then the loss slowed down. I'm inclined to think that some sugar that I ate was the cause, but still, I wanted to ask...has anyone here ever personally found that adding/removing creamer changed their weight loss?
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Ive been learning alot about insulin lately. One of the symptoms of high insulin and insulin resistance is post-meal crashes. Im sure you know about Pavlov's dog and how he trained them to respond to bells for dinner time. Most people I talk to think that that was it - that the bells mean dinner. But what people dont know is that the real experiment was that the animals secreted insulin in ANTICIPATION of the meal as well. Of course everyone is different. But this could be happening. Protien first, according the all that I have read seems to stabalize this.
I was definatly insulin resistant but I didnt realize how much so untill I went Zero Carb about a week ago.
Rebecca

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Hello :) New member, though I've been following the 5-hour-window habit for several months now with a lot of good things to say about this way of eating. Learned a lot and am about 15 lbs lighter, 20 if you count the water weight I'm less likely to tote around (though it comes back if I have the wrong foods, of course).

I have two unrelated questions for you more experienced folks.

1) When I break my fast, if I have certain foods, I feel pretty crappy. My heart pounds/races and my brain is extremely foggy for an hour-ish. Much more extreme than any post-prandial slump I've ever had.

So far I've correlated these foods, I *think*, to those which are high GI. Rice, apples, and wheat so far. So my question is...is this an insulin spike, do you think? IE, my blood sugar is low from the fast, but the food spikes insulin anyways when the food hasn't actually gotten to the blood yet, so it crashes my blood sugar? Or could it be that my stomach is just working really hard and demanding all the blood? If I eat only my favorite break-fast (avocado and bacon and maybe fried eggs), then wait a while, I can then eat high GI foods in small quantities with no problem.

Obviously this is a case of "well, don't do that then!" *grin* But I am curious whether this is an indication of my general state of health. IE, am I actually insulin resistant?

2) Everything I read says NO CREAMER WHILE FASTING! I did well with that for a while, but eventually I caved and had creamer. And for a few weeks it didn't seem to make diddly-squat of a difference. But then the loss slowed down. I'm inclined to think that some sugar that I ate was the cause, but still, I wanted to ask...has anyone here ever personally found that adding/removing creamer changed their weight loss?




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[fast5] Post-break-fast wipeout and the coffee creamer question

Hello :) New member, though I've been following the 5-hour-window habit for several months now with a lot of good things to say about this way of eating. Learned a lot and am about 15 lbs lighter, 20 if you count the water weight I'm less likely to tote around (though it comes back if I have the wrong foods, of course).

I have two unrelated questions for you more experienced folks.

1) When I break my fast, if I have certain foods, I feel pretty crappy. My heart pounds/races and my brain is extremely foggy for an hour-ish. Much more extreme than any post-prandial slump I've ever had.

So far I've correlated these foods, I *think*, to those which are high GI. Rice, apples, and wheat so far. So my question is...is this an insulin spike, do you think? IE, my blood sugar is low from the fast, but the food spikes insulin anyways when the food hasn't actually gotten to the blood yet, so it crashes my blood sugar? Or could it be that my stomach is just working really hard and demanding all the blood? If I eat only my favorite break-fast (avocado and bacon and maybe fried eggs), then wait a while, I can then eat high GI foods in small quantities with no problem.

Obviously this is a case of "well, don't do that then!" *grin* But I am curious whether this is an indication of my general state of health. IE, am I actually insulin resistant?

2) Everything I read says NO CREAMER WHILE FASTING! I did well with that for a while, but eventually I caved and had creamer. And for a few weeks it didn't seem to make diddly-squat of a difference. But then the loss slowed down. I'm inclined to think that some sugar that I ate was the cause, but still, I wanted to ask...has anyone here ever personally found that adding/removing creamer changed their weight loss?

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Re: [fast5] my story- for anyone beginning or struggling



I am so happy to hear this! ZC has made a huge change in everything in my life; not just my weight (30 lbs off, I am 5'2", 117 and 50 ) but my attitude towards life. It helps me handle stress better, I sleep great, and the blood sugar swings I used to get vanished immediately. It will be a year in June since I started and I honestly have never felt better.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Becky <yellowcason@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have been 100% on fast-5 now since March 2nd. I have NEVER cheated on it. Have I been loving it?? Yes and No. It has saved me tons of money on food and when my husband joined me on April 12th the cost of a shopping trip dropped again. My cravings for food and my self control have also taken a turn for the much much better. Great, yes, but not the reason I turned to the Fast-5 way of life.

A little about me. I am 29 and have 3 kids ages 8, 6, and 5. My weight is from pregnancy and medication (which I no longer take). I have never really exercised because of a sleep disorder which leaves me tired all the time. I have tried but if I spend my energy on exercise I can't function to take care of my kids.

I wanted to loose 35-40 pounds (I am 4foot 11inches). Started at 145 where I have been stuck for 2 years. From March 2nd through April 12th I only lost 1 pound and 2 inches off my waist and maybe my thighs were a bit thinner too, but that depended on where I measured them. So I stopped using artificial sweeteners at all, decrease my window to 3 hours (on no particular diet) and immediately dropped 3 pounds and then one more, which came back the next week, then stayed there. Stuck at 141 lbs. But come May 13, a full month later, I was still seeing no results. I was incredibly depressed and on the verge of crying all the time. It didn't help that my husband had lost 10 pounds in 4 weeks.

Sure I learned allot about myself in that time and that my body seems to like certain foods and that some foods satisfied hunger more than others, but I wasn't loosing weight. My diet was healthy - I ate my vegetables and stayed away from fast food and sugar as much as possible. I did not want to give up carbs because 1) I like them, 2) they were supposed to be good for you, and 3) I had been warned about the "dangers" of high protein and ketosis. But it seemed like that was what I was going to have to do. And I struggled with that.

Thanks to whoever it was that posted the link to the zero carb message board I was able to get real information on zero-carbing and its long term safety, ketosis, and also the impact of insulin, its function, and insulin resistance. I was also able to find over 100 pages (printed out) of "The Bear's" writings on message boards and his essay on Diet and Exercise. At first it was hard to "swallow" as I am an herbalist and trained on plants and their medicinal uses and that vegetables are supposed to be the main part of any diet if you don't want to get sick or chronic disease. Yes, this blows a big hole in my education. But that's ok....I love learning and The Bear makes sense. He is well read and knowledgeable on the subject.

I started zero carb 5 days ago and have already lost 4 pounds. I am starting to feel better emotionally and have a bit more energy which for me is completely foreign. I also noticed that my legs didn't feel shaky and weak after climbing a flight of stairs - which is a first for me as well.

I hope that those out there who are struggling, or are just beginning, take heart by reading my story. Don't give up!

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I have been 100% on fast-5 now since March 2nd. I have NEVER cheated on it. Have I been loving it?? Yes and No. It has saved me tons of money on food and when my husband joined me on April 12th the cost of a shopping trip dropped again. My cravings for food and my self control have also taken a turn for the much much better. Great, yes, but not the reason I turned to the Fast-5 way of life.

A little about me. I am 29 and have 3 kids ages 8, 6, and 5. My weight is from pregnancy and medication (which I no longer take). I have never really exercised because of a sleep disorder which leaves me tired all the time. I have tried but if I spend my energy on exercise I can't function to take care of my kids.

I wanted to loose 35-40 pounds (I am 4foot 11inches). Started at 145 where I have been stuck for 2 years. From March 2nd through April 12th I only lost 1 pound and 2 inches off my waist and maybe my thighs were a bit thinner too, but that depended on where I measured them. So I stopped using artificial sweeteners at all, decrease my window to 3 hours (on no particular diet) and immediately dropped 3 pounds and then one more, which came back the next week, then stayed there. Stuck at 141 lbs. But come May 13, a full month later, I was still seeing no results. I was incredibly depressed and on the verge of crying all the time. It didn't help that my husband had lost 10 pounds in 4 weeks.

Sure I learned allot about myself in that time and that my body seems to like certain foods and that some foods satisfied hunger more than others, but I wasn't loosing weight. My diet was healthy - I ate my vegetables and stayed away from fast food and sugar as much as possible. I did not want to give up carbs because 1) I like them, 2) they were supposed to be good for you, and 3) I had been warned about the "dangers" of high protein and ketosis. But it seemed like that was what I was going to have to do. And I struggled with that.

Thanks to whoever it was that posted the link to the zero carb message board I was able to get real information on zero-carbing and its long term safety, ketosis, and also the impact of insulin, its function, and insulin resistance. I was also able to find over 100 pages (printed out) of "The Bear's" writings on message boards and his essay on Diet and Exercise. At first it was hard to "swallow" as I am an herbalist and trained on plants and their medicinal uses and that vegetables are supposed to be the main part of any diet if you don't want to get sick or chronic disease. Yes, this blows a big hole in my education. But that's ok....I love learning and The Bear makes sense. He is well read and knowledgeable on the subject.

I started zero carb 5 days ago and have already lost 4 pounds. I am starting to feel better emotionally and have a bit more energy which for me is completely foreign. I also noticed that my legs didn't feel shaky and weak after climbing a flight of stairs - which is a first for me as well.

I hope that those out there who are struggling, or are just beginning, take heart by reading my story. Don't give up!

Rebecca


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[fast5] Re: Easy as pie

That's great! Can you tell me what your window is and what your diet is like?
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> Hello all. I just wanted to say that I have lost 26 lbs. in 13 weeks about 2 lbs. per week. Foe me I adapted to this program very well and it has been easy as pie. Don't get me wrong it has been a little diffucult at times, but for the most part it has been easy for me. I wish you all the best. I have 4 lbs. to go. ang in there!
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[fast5] Re: Starting a new phase in my life

Hi Susie! Wow, you have so much ahead of you! Good luck with all of it!

I too am getting back on the Fast-5 wagon strictly. It's been so tough for me to get back on and stay on, but I'm determined to keep doing it until I get back to where I was almost two years ago. I'm glad I can come here and look for inspiration since most everyone I know thinks this way of life is ridiculous or dangerous. If they only knew, they might be that much better off.

I'm right there with ya! ;-)

Luz

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> I posted quite a bit in February and March and was doing fantastic with FF. Then I started my final quarter of law school, which was compressed and very intense. I found that I started varying my window to try to accommodate my new schedule, and one thing led to another . . . I'm not kicking myself for the FF "vacation" because I've had a lot of external life issues during that time, and I have stuck to skipping breakfast, which is my natural preference. It's still nice to do that confident now that it's right for me, even if some days the rest of the day fell apart food-wise.
>
> So. Yesterday was my last day of class. (Yay!) I am craving the craving-free feeling I had with FF, along with the freedom from spending time and money on food during the day. I have exams next week (which I did in March on FF with great success), then a few days off, then I will be studying for the bar in late May, June and July.
>
> I'm restarting my 3-8 pm window tomorrow. I'm really excited about getting back to feeling normal again. My plan is to study for exams, (then for the bar) at the lake that is just two blocks from me or at the library when the weather doesn't permit hanging out outside. All I have to do is walk over with my study materials, camp chair and a big bottle of ice water. I don't need to pack snacks or walk back home to make lunch.
>
> I want to study at the lake because, well, I can. But I find that FF allows me to think about what I really want to do, because the focus is not on food. And I want to enjoy the beautiful summer weather, the refreshing view of the lake, and the activity that is always going on there.
>
> Re-entry will be this weekend, and I expect some discomfort, but as someone (Rick?) said recently, I will just tell that pesky dog to go lie down and wait for dinnertime. ; )
>
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[fast5] re: easy as pie



Great results!  Did you eat a certain way?  or just eat in that window whatever you wanted?  Just trying to figure it all out.
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Good luck Susie. It's nice to know that it doesn't matter if your circumstances mean you need to take a break from this way of eating as it's not like a diet where it's hard to do it again because you will be cutting out things you like. With Fast5 it's almost a pleasure to do. I haven't been doing it for long but it's so nice to not feel bloated in the daytime and have the horrid afternoon slumps I used to get from pigging out at lunchtime.

Like you say, it's so freeing not to have to pack up snacks in case you get hungry or worry about getting something for lunch, I really notice how much more time I have and although I seem to eat a lot in my window, my food bill has gone down quite considerably and I don't shop nearly as much, I was always worrying about running out of food, but now I'm not bothered as I know pretty much how much I'm going to eat in my 5 hours.

I'm not very good at drinking water so I drink diluted squash and lots of green and white tea and a couple of cups of coffee...I love my morning coffee, black of course, but that's how I've always drunk it so no hardship.

I do get hunger pangs but find if I ignore them they literally disappear in about 10 minutes. Before I would get really panicky about feeling hungry and would get quite stressed if I had nothing to eat, get shaky and feel sick. Obviously it was all in the mind as I don't get any of this. When I first started fasting I thought there is no way I can last a day of not eating, I struggled to get through a couple of hours! It's definately mind over matter.

Anyway I have rabbited on long enough. Good luck but I'm sure you won't need it. Jealous of you being able to study by a lake, how lovely.

Niki

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "susieq_az1" <susannauw2010@...> wrote:
>
> I posted quite a bit in February and March and was doing fantastic with FF. Then I started my final quarter of law school, which was compressed and very intense. I found that I started varying my window to try to accommodate my new schedule, and one thing led to another . . . I'm not kicking myself for the FF "vacation" because I've had a lot of external life issues during that time, and I have stuck to skipping breakfast, which is my natural preference. It's still nice to do that confident now that it's right for me, even if some days the rest of the day fell apart food-wise.
>
> So. Yesterday was my last day of class. (Yay!) I am craving the craving-free feeling I had with FF, along with the freedom from spending time and money on food during the day. I have exams next week (which I did in March on FF with great success), then a few days off, then I will be studying for the bar in late May, June and July.
>
> I'm restarting my 3-8 pm window tomorrow. I'm really excited about getting back to feeling normal again. My plan is to study for exams, (then for the bar) at the lake that is just two blocks from me or at the library when the weather doesn't permit hanging out outside. All I have to do is walk over with my study materials, camp chair and a big bottle of ice water. I don't need to pack snacks or walk back home to make lunch.
>
> I want to study at the lake because, well, I can. But I find that FF allows me to think about what I really want to do, because the focus is not on food. And I want to enjoy the beautiful summer weather, the refreshing view of the lake, and the activity that is always going on there.
>
> Re-entry will be this weekend, and I expect some discomfort, but as someone (Rick?) said recently, I will just tell that pesky dog to go lie down and wait for dinnertime. ; )
>
> Susie
>


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Friday, May 14, 2010

[fast5] Starting a new phase in my life

Hey Susie. Congrats with huge achievemetns. End of law school, wow. Good luck with exams and the bar.
I have the same problem. I stopped fast 5 completely about 4 months ago when I started nursing program. I gained weight and can't wait when I start it again. Next week I have 2 exams and then I'm IN. I'm kind of started already. I don't have a window yet, but I don't eat before 2-3 pm. My window would be same as yours. Summer is very soon, so we better hurry up. My biggest fear in nights since I like to eat at night. Plus my kids would be on summer break, so I know it's going to be hard, but well... I miss that feeling of freedom and my loose clothes.

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[fast5] Starting a new phase in my life

I posted quite a bit in February and March and was doing fantastic with FF. Then I started my final quarter of law school, which was compressed and very intense. I found that I started varying my window to try to accommodate my new schedule, and one thing led to another . . . I'm not kicking myself for the FF "vacation" because I've had a lot of external life issues during that time, and I have stuck to skipping breakfast, which is my natural preference. It's still nice to do that confident now that it's right for me, even if some days the rest of the day fell apart food-wise.

So. Yesterday was my last day of class. (Yay!) I am craving the craving-free feeling I had with FF, along with the freedom from spending time and money on food during the day. I have exams next week (which I did in March on FF with great success), then a few days off, then I will be studying for the bar in late May, June and July.

I'm restarting my 3-8 pm window tomorrow. I'm really excited about getting back to feeling normal again. My plan is to study for exams, (then for the bar) at the lake that is just two blocks from me or at the library when the weather doesn't permit hanging out outside. All I have to do is walk over with my study materials, camp chair and a big bottle of ice water. I don't need to pack snacks or walk back home to make lunch.

I want to study at the lake because, well, I can. But I find that FF allows me to think about what I really want to do, because the focus is not on food. And I want to enjoy the beautiful summer weather, the refreshing view of the lake, and the activity that is always going on there.

Re-entry will be this weekend, and I expect some discomfort, but as someone (Rick?) said recently, I will just tell that pesky dog to go lie down and wait for dinnertime. ; )

Susie

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[fast5] Re: Easy as pie

Awesome! Good for you!

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "canmik080" <xrman805@...> wrote:
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> Hello all. I just wanted to say that I have lost 26 lbs. in 13 weeks about 2 lbs. per week. For me I adapted to this program very well and it has been easy as pie. Don't get me wrong it has been a little diffucult at times, but for the most part it has been easy for me. I wish you all the best. I have 4 lbs. to go. Hang in there!
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Thursday, May 13, 2010

[fast5] Re: breaking the fast

Thanks, I did indeed 'google' noticed it does recommend eating veges and fruit. (which at the moment, isn't good for my liver at all) the list of recommended vegetables and fruits have been what I used to consume and would give me insane hunger cravings as well. I'll stick to the carnivore diet for now, but thank you for thinking of me.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Churyl Zeviar <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> You may also be interested in the GAPS diet. Google it. It is mainly
> broths, meat, and fermented foods at first. Many people have been healed
> of various ailments on it. I know of a few myself. It's amazing.
>
> There's an incredible yahoo group, too:
>
> GAPShelp@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 4:48 am, balloonheartednojutsu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Funny enough-- My doctor has actually suggested I go on and all
> > Meat-diet to heal My liver. (consuming fruits and vegetables, was
> > actually making me worse and causing my liver to fail) So as of
> > 12/05/2010 I've embarked upon a Carnivore lifestyle. (trialing for a
> > month) Today was the first day, in so many years where I've woken up
> > and actually had ENERGY!
> >
> > And I found my fasting was a breeze.
> >
> > I've looked through the Forum, love it and I'll be sure to join once a
> > two-week peroid is up (as is required for registration)
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Laura Semmens <lsemmens@> wrote:
> >>
> >> YEP....there are a lot of us. Check out
> >> http://forum.zeroinginonhealth.com/I've been doing this since last
> >> June. Some have been at it for years.
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, carolyn_graff <zgraff@> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > what else do you eat? are you saying that's all you eat - meat and
> >> some
> >> > dairy?
> >> >
> >> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <fast5%40yahoogroups.com>, Laura
> >> Semmens
> >> > <lsemmens@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I only eat meat and occasional dairy. I maintain my weight (117)
> >> easily
> >> > this
> >> > > way, without having to hit the gym at all.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:18 PM, <gremlinpugs@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It seems e everyone is opposite to me. Maybe it just has to do
> >> with the
> >> > > > foods you like most. I can't stand meat and dairy.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >> > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > *From: * Rebecca Cason <yellowcason@>
> >> > > > *Date: *Sat, 8 May 2010 21:43:42 -0500
> >> > > > *To: *<fast5@yahoogroups.com <fast5%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > > > *Subject: *Re: [fast5] breaking the fast
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Im the exact opposite of that. If I have vegetables or
> >> something sweet
> >> > like
> >> > > > fruit first I get really hungry and I will overeat during that
> >> window.
> >> > If I
> >> > > > have meat first (dark meat chicken actually works best for some
> >> reason)
> >> > > > I eat less and I'm in complete controll for that window. Its
> >> really
> >> > > > something you have to play around with for a few weeks. It took
> >> me
> >> > nearly 13
> >> > > > weeks to figure that out and to make sure it wasnt something
> >> else like
> >> > > > stress or "that time of the month" that was messing with my
> >> hunger.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:23 PM, <gremlinpugs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Try salad. I find if I eat higher fiber foods it helps a lot.
> >> I also
> >> > make
> >> > > >> my own soups so I usually start with those while making my
> >> main meal.
> >> > > >> Steamed broccoli with toasted almonds and apple slices work
> >> too.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >> > > >> ------------------------------
> >> > > >> *From: *"fiver4lifer" <ltran196728@>
> >> > > >> *Date: *Sat, 08 May 2010 23:32:24 -0000
> >> > > >> *To: *<fast5@yahoogroups.com <fast5%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > > >> *Subject: *[fast5] breaking the fast
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> hi all..
> >> > > >> Been on fast five about two months or so...love love love it.
> >> Every
> >> > single
> >> > > >> benefit mentioned on this site I"ve seen. I also tend to
> >> overeat in my
> >> > > >> window, but not that often and I'm just wondering if anyone
> >> has a tip
> >> > for
> >> > > >> foods that you break your fast with that might curtail
> >> appetite or
> >> > lead to
> >> > > >> less insulin spikes. I've just started trying meat and
> >> fat...like
> >> > turkey
> >> > > >> dipped in some mayo (no bread) or some other meat and then
> >> wait a bit
> >> > and
> >> > > >> then eat? I'm not sure (so new to trying this) but think it
> >> might be
> >> > helping
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Any tricks of the trade with regard to breaking the fast?
> >> THanks. I
> >> > love
> >> > > >> this forum. Your guys' messages are so helpful!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Rebecca Cason
> >> > > > Cason Naturals
> >> > > > web- www.casonnaturals.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
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