Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Carbs: Are they bad?



THank you so much for this information Heather


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Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Carbs: Are they bad?

 
How to turn it OFF ... I'm still parsing that one. His main suggestion is "reduce fructose" in the video ... but he kind of goes onto all kinds of topics, so I'm getting the book to have it more organized. What I have found in my own research is the iron triggers uric acid production also, while egg and whey protein reduces it. So I'm guessing (someone will have to experiment!) that lowering fructose/sucrose ingestion would help trigger weight loss. If that doesn't work: 

-- Restricting iron ingestion (iron-enriched foods is the main problem in the US: most common starchy foods have added iron). Also black olives, molasses, etc.
-- Eating less red meat, and/or eating it when there isn't Vit C present, and preferably with whole grains/tea/milk ... stuff that blocks iron.
-- Eating more eggs and/or whey protein
-- Possibly restricting some legumes (legumes gave my Dad gout symptoms, but other sources say legumes are ok?)
-- Plenty of tea (and maybe coffee).

And also:

-- Avoiding beer (beer seems to cause high uric acid production).
-- Avoiding more than 2 glasses of wine.


He also recommends avoiding certain seafoods, notably shellfish and crab. I'm a bit iffy on that one ... shellfish don't seem to be associated with weight gain anywhere that I have seen. In theory they are loaded with purines, but the people of the world that eat a lot of high purine fish ... like the Japanese ... aren't noted for being obese. The obese Japanese -- the sumos -- notably do NOT eat as much seafood as most Japanese. And at the times I have lost a lot of weight, I was eating loads of fish. So I think there may be a protective substance in fish. But that would require more experimentation.

I am very interested in this because my Dad had gout. As I've gotten older, I've started getting joint pain, which of course everyone says is normal when you get older. It's not normal in some cultures though, so my question is "why?". Also it comes and goes, and I'm pretty convinced it has to do with dietary changes, but it's been hard to pin down. I'm fairly sure that both my Dad and Mom got way too much iron and had problems from that. I didn't put together the connection between uric acid and heart disease though. His arteries were in very bad shape, even though his diet was quite good and his cholesterol levels etc. were good.

Anyway, my current diet is more or less as above ... more eggs (2-4 a day), more green tea, no beer, less beef, less fruit. I use rice and rice crackers as my main starch, plus tortillas sometimes, plus kimchi and various green vegies. I never have done much sugar, so that's not really an issue. It seems to be working nicely so far, my joints are doing way better, my skin is super-soft, and my appetite is more in control.



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:02 AM, RickS <no3rdseat@gmail.com> wrote:
So he seems to say that eating fructose and foods that cause high uric acid levels flip the weight gain switch.  Maybe I missed it, but how does he say you turn the "switch" back off?

-Rick



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> Thanks! I ordered his book. He has a lot of ideas that no one else seems
> to have thought of yet, that actually tie together a lot of random ideas
> from all over.




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How to turn it OFF ... I'm still parsing that one. His main suggestion is "reduce fructose" in the video ... but he kind of goes onto all kinds of topics, so I'm getting the book to have it more organized. What I have found in my own research is the iron triggers uric acid production also, while egg and whey protein reduces it. So I'm guessing (someone will have to experiment!) that lowering fructose/sucrose ingestion would help trigger weight loss. If that doesn't work: 


-- Restricting iron ingestion (iron-enriched foods is the main problem in the US: most common starchy foods have added iron). Also black olives, molasses, etc.
-- Eating less red meat, and/or eating it when there isn't Vit C present, and preferably with whole grains/tea/milk ... stuff that blocks iron.
-- Eating more eggs and/or whey protein
-- Possibly restricting some legumes (legumes gave my Dad gout symptoms, but other sources say legumes are ok?)
-- Plenty of tea (and maybe coffee).

And also:

-- Avoiding beer (beer seems to cause high uric acid production).
-- Avoiding more than 2 glasses of wine.


He also recommends avoiding certain seafoods, notably shellfish and crab. I'm a bit iffy on that one ... shellfish don't seem to be associated with weight gain anywhere that I have seen. In theory they are loaded with purines, but the people of the world that eat a lot of high purine fish ... like the Japanese ... aren't noted for being obese. The obese Japanese -- the sumos -- notably do NOT eat as much seafood as most Japanese. And at the times I have lost a lot of weight, I was eating loads of fish. So I think there may be a protective substance in fish. But that would require more experimentation.

I am very interested in this because my Dad had gout. As I've gotten older, I've started getting joint pain, which of course everyone says is normal when you get older. It's not normal in some cultures though, so my question is "why?". Also it comes and goes, and I'm pretty convinced it has to do with dietary changes, but it's been hard to pin down. I'm fairly sure that both my Dad and Mom got way too much iron and had problems from that. I didn't put together the connection between uric acid and heart disease though. His arteries were in very bad shape, even though his diet was quite good and his cholesterol levels etc. were good.

Anyway, my current diet is more or less as above ... more eggs (2-4 a day), more green tea, no beer, less beef, less fruit. I use rice and rice crackers as my main starch, plus tortillas sometimes, plus kimchi and various green vegies. I never have done much sugar, so that's not really an issue. It seems to be working nicely so far, my joints are doing way better, my skin is super-soft, and my appetite is more in control.



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:02 AM, RickS <no3rdseat@gmail.com> wrote:
So he seems to say that eating fructose and foods that cause high uric acid levels flip the weight gain switch.  Maybe I missed it, but how does he say you turn the "switch" back off?

-Rick



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> Thanks! I ordered his book. He has a lot of ideas that no one else seems
> to have thought of yet, that actually tie together a lot of random ideas
> from all over.




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[fast5] Re: Carbs: Are they bad?

So he seems to say that eating fructose and foods that cause high uric acid levels flip the weight gain switch. Maybe I missed it, but how does he say you turn the "switch" back off?

-Rick



--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> Thanks! I ordered his book. He has a lot of ideas that no one else seems
> to have thought of yet, that actually tie together a lot of random ideas
> from all over.




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Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Carbs: Are they bad?



Thanks! I ordered his book. He has a lot of ideas that no one else seems

to have thought of yet, that actually tie together a lot of random ideas
from all over.


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:38 AM, RickS <no3rdseat@gmail.com> wrote:
Great link and I read your blog too.  Nice work Heather.

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2zSN0JOa8&feature=player_embedded
>
> This video is very long, and rather loaded with ideas. I think Dr. Johnson
> must do a LOT of experimenting!
>
> Anyway, I think what he is saying is important, and it ties together a lot
> of what has been said over the years in this group. Dr. Johnson has a mixed
> take on IF -- he thinks using up the glycogen and then having a time to go
> into "fat eating mode" is important, but he's also in favor of breakfast.
> But a more important point is that he's researched how "carbs" affect
> weight, and he may have the answer to my personal questions: "If carbs make
> you fat, then why are the Japanese so slim?".
>
> What he has found, basically, is that excess *fructose* causes uric acid
> levels to rise in the blood, and the rise in uric acid causes "metabolic
> syndrome". The person becomes leptin-resistant, and starts eating more and
> more, while at the same time, ATP levels drop and the person has no energy
> to exercise. When this is reversed ... by giving gout medication for
> example ... blood pressure drops and the person gets skinnier. He's
> experimented for years on animals with this.
>
> Now as to the Japanese ... starches don't metabolize into fructose. They
> metabolize into glucose, which doesn't have the same effect for most people
> or animals. So it's not just a matter of "carbs" ... specific carbs have a
> specific effect.
>
> However, if uric acid levels are high, sometimes the body can convert
> glucose to fructose. For those people, they need to avoid glucose too. So
> Barney, you might have a very good point: some people need to just go
> low-carb for some period of time, to lose the weight.
>
> According to Dr. Johnson, human beings tend to eat less-ripe fruit, which
> has more Vitamin C and less fructose. Also eating the whole fruit doesn't
> seem to have a huge effect. However, fruit juice does have a big effect,
> and just about any sugar ... including table sugar, agave, palm sugar,
> coconut sugar, molasses. Dextrose and rice syrup and Karo though, don't
> have fructose. Dates and dried fruit has lots of fructose. And of course
> soft drinks are loaded with fructose, but it's not just the HFCS pop. The
> soda made with white sugar or apple juice as a sweetener are just as bad.
> Sports drinks too.
>
> Then I started looking at other foods that raise uric acid levels. A big
> one is *beer* ... something I did identify as problematic for me with
> weight. Another is iron, which I was having problems with, partly because
> of the high-iron levels in our water and my love of good grass-fed beef.
> Beef and organ meats also raise uric acid levels.
>
> And there are foods that lower uric acid levels. One is vinegar, which has
> been associated with weight loss for some time. Another is *eggs* ... and
> recently it's been found that adding eggs to your diet can make people lose
> weight faster.
>
> --
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> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>




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Great link and I read your blog too. Nice work Heather.

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2zSN0JOa8&feature=player_embedded
>
> This video is very long, and rather loaded with ideas. I think Dr. Johnson
> must do a LOT of experimenting!
>
> Anyway, I think what he is saying is important, and it ties together a lot
> of what has been said over the years in this group. Dr. Johnson has a mixed
> take on IF -- he thinks using up the glycogen and then having a time to go
> into "fat eating mode" is important, but he's also in favor of breakfast.
> But a more important point is that he's researched how "carbs" affect
> weight, and he may have the answer to my personal questions: "If carbs make
> you fat, then why are the Japanese so slim?".
>
> What he has found, basically, is that excess *fructose* causes uric acid
> levels to rise in the blood, and the rise in uric acid causes "metabolic
> syndrome". The person becomes leptin-resistant, and starts eating more and
> more, while at the same time, ATP levels drop and the person has no energy
> to exercise. When this is reversed ... by giving gout medication for
> example ... blood pressure drops and the person gets skinnier. He's
> experimented for years on animals with this.
>
> Now as to the Japanese ... starches don't metabolize into fructose. They
> metabolize into glucose, which doesn't have the same effect for most people
> or animals. So it's not just a matter of "carbs" ... specific carbs have a
> specific effect.
>
> However, if uric acid levels are high, sometimes the body can convert
> glucose to fructose. For those people, they need to avoid glucose too. So
> Barney, you might have a very good point: some people need to just go
> low-carb for some period of time, to lose the weight.
>
> According to Dr. Johnson, human beings tend to eat less-ripe fruit, which
> has more Vitamin C and less fructose. Also eating the whole fruit doesn't
> seem to have a huge effect. However, fruit juice does have a big effect,
> and just about any sugar ... including table sugar, agave, palm sugar,
> coconut sugar, molasses. Dextrose and rice syrup and Karo though, don't
> have fructose. Dates and dried fruit has lots of fructose. And of course
> soft drinks are loaded with fructose, but it's not just the HFCS pop. The
> soda made with white sugar or apple juice as a sweetener are just as bad.
> Sports drinks too.
>
> Then I started looking at other foods that raise uric acid levels. A big
> one is *beer* ... something I did identify as problematic for me with
> weight. Another is iron, which I was having problems with, partly because
> of the high-iron levels in our water and my love of good grass-fed beef.
> Beef and organ meats also raise uric acid levels.
>
> And there are foods that lower uric acid levels. One is vinegar, which has
> been associated with weight loss for some time. Another is *eggs* ... and
> recently it's been found that adding eggs to your diet can make people lose
> weight faster.
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>




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[fast5] Re: ~~NEWBIE...........WHITE DRESS SCARES ME...LOL~~

Remember this is about a life change and not a diet. Diets fail but
when you start to understand how foods physically affect you (and can
cause inflammation which then can diabetes, arthritis, IBS, etc.) you
start to believe that *you* deserve better and it becomes easier to
eat better for your body. Because you realize you do have tons of
control over whether you get sick and fat by your food choices. This
way of life is about treating yourself better because you deserve it

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Monday, August 20, 2012

[fast5] Re: ~~NEWBIE...........WHITE DRESS SCARES ME...LOL~~

Morning Diane,

Def check out them out. Really want to break my sugar addiction. Ive heard of Paleo. Think a coworker was following that diet.

Thanks again and have a great week. :)



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> Also check out marksdailyapple.com and the whole30 (you can google
> it.) I am doing whole30 right now to get rid of my sugar demons. It is
> basically strict paleo eating for 30 days. But I am also cutting out
> fruit. Good luck
>
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Sunday, August 19, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: ~~NEWBIE...........WHITE DRESS SCARES ME...LOL~~



Yeah, I switched from my "eggs for breakfast" meal to protein shakes and smoothies, right about the time I gained all that weight! Because "everyone" said protein shakes are the way to go.


Eggs do have a lot of cholesterol in them, but there have been a number of studies lately where they fed lots of them to dieters and it didn't affect their blood lipids *at all*. (Frying eggs might not be the best way to eat them though (frying proteins at high heat can cause carcinogens ... I do fry my eggs though, just not at high heat). Anyway, the Chinese and Japanese eat loads of eggs, and they have low rates of heart disease.

As for sweets ... there is a theory that fructose triggers weight gain, and regular sugar is half fructose. So for quicker weight loss, cutting back on sugar is a good idea! 

What has worked for a number of people is to eat in "courses", like you were a rich lady being served a great meal.

First course: soup or salad (my soup and salads both contain eggs, these days). Or something else with eggs. I do use vinegar on my salads, and use sauces with vinegar in them.

Second course: protein. Fish or chicken or meat, served with lots of vegies (esp. greens)

Third course: Starches. 

Last course: Dessert. You'll find that you won't have room for MUCH dessert at this point.


Since I started eating more Asian style I typically have rice, fish, and vegies together, and I have lost my taste for sweets so I just don't do them much. Also my first and second course are a couple of hours apart, since my family likes to eat late. It is important to get enough protein though, and when a person is hungry, there is a tendency to reach for the easy starches and sugars (Chips I think, are the worst! And cookies!). So eat soup or salad when you might tend to "gorge", and get the protein in before you fill up on cookies.

After you are full, one chocolate is about all you can eat, and it makes a nice treat.




On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:50 AM, ladyjs2011 <c.douceur@yahoo.com> wrote:


Hi Heather,

Thanks! Looking forward to married life.............


You totally my mind! :) I love eggs, but people are always telling me its too much cholesterol and unhealthy. When I did eat Breakfast, would have 2 boiled eggs and that would hold me till lunch time. I guess I should've paid attention to what worked for me and not what others believed what was right for me. Ive heard about apple cider vinegar...thinking about taking the tabs before meals.

Sweets are my biggest prob and hopeful, this lifestyle will break the addiction.

Really appreciate all the advice.


 
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Also check out marksdailyapple.com and the whole30 (you can google
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basically strict paleo eating for 30 days. But I am also cutting out
fruit. Good luck

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Hello Inna,

Thanks so much for the warm welcome. Def will share my journey and success w/the group.

Wish you the best on your goal. We got this! :)



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> oh welcome to the group!!! My advice: share your success (even small one) with the group and it would help you to stay motivated and reach your goal! �My goal is to drop 10 pounds by the beginning of October, my BD, so let's keep it up!
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Hi Heather,

Thanks! Looking forward to married life.............


You totally my mind! :) I love eggs, but people are always telling me its too much cholesterol and unhealthy. When I did eat Breakfast, would have 2 boiled eggs and that would hold me till lunch time. I guess I should've paid attention to what worked for me and not what others believed what was right for me. Ive heard about apple cider vinegar...thinking about taking the tabs before meals.

Sweets are my biggest prob and hopeful, this lifestyle will break the addiction.

Really appreciate all the advice.



--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the group and this way of eating! And your upcoming nuptials!
> One advantage of Fast-5 is that you'll get more time to do wedding planning!
>
> One bit of advice that works for me: try eggs! The Margaret Thatcher diet
> is 2 eggs for breakfast, 2 for lunch, then a normal dinner, and she lost a
> fair bit of weights in a short time. Marilyn Monroe and Bruce Lee both were
> big on eggs. Eggs are a big deal in China and Japan, and they tend to be
> skinnier that Americans even when they eat more calories and get the same
> amount of exercise.
>
> What I've found is that Fast 5, starting the meal with a 2 or 3 egg omelet
> or a salad with hard-boiled eggs in it, or a soup with eggs in it, works
> like a charm. There is something magic about eggs and weight loss. Egg
> protein happens to be the most complete protein, and the yolk has the
> nutrients a person needs (including some of the harder-to-get fatty acids).
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/7111052/Margaret-Thatchers-victory-diet-28-eggs-a-week.html
>
>
>
> 2-3 hours after the "egg meal" I make dinner for the rest of the crew, and
> eat some of that too.
>
> Fish is very good protein too, and I include that as much as I can. And
> loads of greens. Vinegar at the beginning of a meal tends to do good things
> for blood glucose control, which is one of the issues in weight loss ... so
> a salad with a vinegar dressing is a great way to break the fast.
>
> Anyway, the most successful losers that have posted here seem to be the
> ones that get enough protein. If you break your fast with starches, sweets,
> or, say, fruit juice, it is easier to overeat and people tend to get
> hungrier the next day. Also some starches affect appetite differently than
> others ... for me, white rice works fine, but rice crackers tend to trigger
> my appetite.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:20 AM, ladyjs2011 <c.douceur@...> wrote:
>
> > HELLO GROUP,
> >
> > IM STARTING ON SUN AND WOULD LOVE ANY ADVICE.
> >
> > GETTING MARRIED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WOULD LOVE
> > TO DROP SOME WEIGHT. ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO FINALLY GET CONTROL OF MY
> > WEIGHT/COMFORTABLE IN MY SKIN. REMOVE THE FIXATION ON SWEETS,THE MAIN
> > REASON IM OVERWEIGHT.
> >
> > I KNOW IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE AT 1ST,BUT IM DETERMINED. THIS TIME ITS
> > DIFFERENT. I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT IVE DONE IN THE PAST, I WAS
> > LIVING A FAST5 LIFE AND WASNT AWARE. HATE BREAKFAST AND GET HUNGRY AFTER
> > 1PM. COMBINING THE FAST5 LIFESTYLE WITH LOW CARB EATING.
> >
> > 1ST GOAL:LOSE 20 BEFORE MY BDAY IN NOV
> >
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[fast5] Re: ~~NEWBIE...........WHITE DRESS SCARES ME...LOL~~



oh welcome to the group!!! My advice: share your success (even small one) with the group and it would help you to stay motivated and reach your goal!  My goal is to drop 10 pounds by the beginning of October, my BD, so let's keep it up!
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Welcome to the group and this way of eating! And your upcoming nuptials! One advantage of Fast-5 is that you'll get more time to do wedding planning!

One bit of advice that works for me: try eggs! The Margaret Thatcher diet is 2 eggs for breakfast, 2 for lunch, then a normal dinner, and she lost a fair bit of weights in a short time. Marilyn Monroe and Bruce Lee both were big on eggs. Eggs are a big deal in China and Japan, and they tend to be skinnier that Americans even when they eat more calories and get the same amount of exercise.

What I've found is that Fast 5, starting the meal with a 2 or 3 egg omelet or a salad with hard-boiled eggs in it, or a soup with eggs in it, works like a charm. There is something magic about eggs and weight loss. Egg protein happens to be the most complete protein, and the yolk has the nutrients a person needs (including some of the harder-to-get fatty acids). 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/7111052/Margaret-Thatchers-victory-diet-28-eggs-a-week.html 


2-3 hours after the "egg meal" I make dinner for the rest of the crew, and eat some of that too.

Fish is very good protein too, and I include that as much as I can. And loads of greens. Vinegar at the beginning of a meal tends to do good things for blood glucose control, which is one of the issues in weight loss ... so a salad with a vinegar dressing is a great way to break the fast.

Anyway, the most successful losers that have posted here seem to be the ones that get enough protein. If you break your fast with starches, sweets, or, say, fruit juice, it is easier to overeat and people tend to get hungrier the next day. Also some starches affect appetite differently than others ... for me, white rice works fine, but rice crackers tend to trigger my appetite.



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HELLO GROUP,

IM STARTING ON SUN AND WOULD LOVE ANY ADVICE.

GETTING MARRIED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WOULD LOVE TO DROP SOME WEIGHT. ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO FINALLY GET CONTROL OF MY WEIGHT/COMFORTABLE IN MY SKIN. REMOVE THE FIXATION ON SWEETS,THE MAIN REASON IM OVERWEIGHT.

I KNOW IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE AT 1ST,BUT IM DETERMINED. THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT. I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT IVE DONE IN THE PAST, I WAS LIVING A FAST5 LIFE AND WASNT AWARE. HATE BREAKFAST AND GET HUNGRY AFTER 1PM. COMBINING THE FAST5 LIFESTYLE WITH LOW CARB EATING.

1ST GOAL:LOSE 20 BEFORE MY BDAY IN NOV

WISH ME LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HELLO GROUP,

IM STARTING ON SUN AND WOULD LOVE ANY ADVICE.

GETTING MARRIED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR AND WOULD LOVE TO DROP SOME WEIGHT. ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO FINALLY GET CONTROL OF MY WEIGHT/COMFORTABLE IN MY SKIN. REMOVE THE FIXATION ON SWEETS,THE MAIN REASON IM OVERWEIGHT.

I KNOW IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE AT 1ST,BUT IM DETERMINED. THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT. I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT IVE DONE IN THE PAST, I WAS LIVING A FAST5 LIFE AND WASNT AWARE. HATE BREAKFAST AND GET HUNGRY AFTER 1PM. COMBINING THE FAST5 LIFESTYLE WITH LOW CARB EATING.

1ST GOAL:LOSE 20 BEFORE MY BDAY IN NOV

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Friday, August 17, 2012

[fast5] What Does It Mean to Be Fat-Adapted?

By Mark Sisson
What Does It Mean to Be Fat-Adapted? Part 1

"A fat-burning beast can effectively burn stored fat for energy throughout the day. If you can handle missing meals and are able to go hours without getting ravenous and cranky (or craving carbs), you're likely fat-adapted."

More here:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted/#axzz23nvzykEp


What Does It Mean to Be Fat-Adapted? Part 2

How do I become fat-adapted?

Ramp up your fat intake. This will spur your body to increase fat-digesting enzymes that have likely laid rather dormant. Rather than consuming any old fat you can get your hands on, I'd stick to high-nutrient fat – from pastured animals, pastured egg yolks, butter from truly grass-fed cows, red palm oil, extra virgin olive oil – and fat with interesting properties, like MCT and coconut oil (which will ramp up ketone production). It will also "train" your mitochondria to start burning fat for fuel.

Reduce your daily carb intake to about 50 grams if sedentary, 100-150 if you are highly active. Basically, you want to reduce your carb intake relative to your body's demands.

Avoid lean protein. Eat protein that has fat attached, as a focus on protein (rather than meat, which has both fat and protein) could lead to your body converting excess amino acids to glucose.

Reduce your workout intensity.

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[fast5] Dr. Mercola: Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?

Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?

Do you ever find that eating breakfast – even a "solid" breakfast like steak and eggs – makes you hungry?

You start your day off right, re-fueling after sleep, then sometime around 30 minutes to 2 hours or so later you're hungry again, as though you never even ate. It's not all in your head, and you're not alone.

Many experience a similar reaction to breakfast, and in the featured article nutritional consultant and personal trainer Martin Berkhan may have the answer to why post-breakfast hunger occurs, and what will get you on the right eating track.

This might sound surprising at first, but it actually begins with omitting breakfast altogether.

More here:
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Friday, August 10, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours



Nuts are the one food that for me, does NOT ever satiate. Once I was snacking on nuts, and gained 10 lbs in 3 weeks. So I hide the nuts and dole them out! It's good if they work for you though.


Eggs are the best for me, to calm my appetite. A close second though, is a Korean soy ferment called doenjang. It's a salty condiment that is supposed to be very good for you, and tasty. It's pretty high in protein, but also it has a lot of vitamins and who knows what that satisfies like few foods can. Some vitamins, like the B vitamins and vitamin K, are produced mainly by bacteria and yeast. One reason beer has been a stable in most cultures ... it's loaded with B! I think doenjang might have as much or more though. Easy base for making soup too.



Doenjang is rich in flavonoids and beneficial vitamins, minerals, and plant hormones (phytoestrogens) which are sometimes claimed to possess anticarcinogenic properties.[1] In Korean traditional meals, the menu has concentrated on vegetables and rice, but doenjang, which is made of soybeans, has a great deal of lysine, an essential amino acid that rice lacks. Linoleic acid (53% of the fatty acids) and linolenic acid (8% of the fatty acids) have an important role in normal growth of blood vessels and prevention of blood vessel-related illness. Unlike miso, which is usually not boiled, doenjang's efficacy still exists after boiling, in dishes such as doenjang jjigae.[2] 

Doenjang is considered one of the essential sauces of authentic Korean cuisine. However, the condiment has historically been unknown outside of Korea, although recent international articles have resulted in an increase in its popularity. A 2007 Chinese article on the "Sauces of Korea" listed doenjang and gochujang as essential flavorings, and explored the origins of the condiments, particularly focusing on Sunchang County, where most Korean soy sauce is produced. The article pointed out that doenjangdoes not contain any artificial additives and in fact has healthy amounts of essential vitamins, such as vitamin C and vitamin B12. The health benefits of doenjang are rumored to extend longevity, and this is illustrated by the fact that out of the 32,000 people in Sunchung county, eight are over 100 years old and many are over 90. The article was influential throughout China, resulting in many Chinese restaurants adding doenjang stew, modified slightly to Chinese tastes, to their menus shortly after publication. South Korea's JoongAng Ilbo covered this story in China on December 13, 2007.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doenjang
 
 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:25 AM, bradbury_x <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks everybody for your replies!

I'm doing 2-7pm now which fits in with the evening eating pattern of my partner too. It's going pretty well although I'm lucky in that I don't find it hugely difficult to avoid food up until around 12pm.

Eating protein when you come off the fast is great advice. I've lost a lot of weight in the past by fasting, and noticed this back then. For me at least, pure protein is a sledgehammer when it comes to hunger.

I'm vegan so the only real choice (short of cooking some tofu) is nuts, although with my previous weight loss I also used to eat roasted redskin almonds.

Nuts and almonds are high in calories but it's worth remembering that they satiate the appetite like nothing else. If a 500 calorie packet of peanuts keeps me going until the main evening meal then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Nuts also have quite a bit of fibre too, especially if you can eat the skins, and I like the idea of being satiated on only a small physical quantity of food — it keeps my belly empty and my digestion works only a little. Therefore I feel more nimble.

The only other thing I'd say is that chewing sugar-free gum is fine for me although I need to do this anyway to avoid bad breath because of GERD syndrome, so I guess my stomach is typically churning anyway.

 
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[fast5] Re: New member and question

stress is contributer to weight gain as well as other health problems so i always tell people don't stress about the little things. slip us are a little thing that happen on the way to perfecting our new way of eathing with the fast 5. don't worry just do better tomorrow. also, it gets easier the longer you do this.
also... when i really want something but it's outside my window, i like a cup of flavored tea. peppermint makes me think i'm having dessert!

good luck. fast 5 is a great way of life and it really works.



--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "psbrit" <staceyann1025@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> I managed to hold out until 2:52pm today - no lozenges either! I'm well proud of myself.
>
> Hope everyone has a great day!
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, stephanie.dalton12@... <stephanie.dalton12@> wrote:
> >
> > Slip Up is normal. I have found that my best way to succeed is to drink lots of water with flavoring like mio. Plain water doesn't work but the flavoring makes my body think I got something and it calms the hunger pangs. I don't know if the lozenge is ok
> >
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> > From: "staceyann1025" <staceyann1025@>
> > To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [fast5] New member and question
> > Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:31 am
> > Hello everyone! I am so excited to be a part of this community. It's weird but I haven't been this excited about a diet in a long time. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Today is my 3rd day and I've had my slip ups (that's normal, right?). Yesterday, my stomach grumbled so much that I snacked on some peanuts at 1:30 even though I was really pushing for a 3pm start. After that snack though, I didn't eat again until 4 (some blueberries) and I had dinner at 7 and snacked a bit more about 8. I know, way beyond the 5 hour mark but if it helps, I really didn't overeat either. Anyway, I'm hoping with each day I get a little better at this.
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning I woke up with a sore/scratchy throat and would like to have some sugar free lozenges. Are those ok to have before your start time?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> >
> >
> > Stacey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks everybody for your replies!

I'm doing 2-7pm now which fits in with the evening eating pattern of my partner too. It's going pretty well although I'm lucky in that I don't find it hugely difficult to avoid food up until around 12pm.

Eating protein when you come off the fast is great advice. I've lost a lot of weight in the past by fasting, and noticed this back then. For me at least, pure protein is a sledgehammer when it comes to hunger.

I'm vegan so the only real choice (short of cooking some tofu) is nuts, although with my previous weight loss I also used to eat roasted redskin almonds.

Nuts and almonds are high in calories but it's worth remembering that they satiate the appetite like nothing else. If a 500 calorie packet of peanuts keeps me going until the main evening meal then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Nuts also have quite a bit of fibre too, especially if you can eat the skins, and I like the idea of being satiated on only a small physical quantity of food — it keeps my belly empty and my digestion works only a little. Therefore I feel more nimble.

The only other thing I'd say is that chewing sugar-free gum is fine for me although I need to do this anyway to avoid bad breath because of GERD syndrome, so I guess my stomach is typically churning anyway.


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, bradbury_x <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody, I'm new here.
>
> I learned about the Fast5 diet and after a brief read through of the eBook, decided to give it a go.
>
> Although it's obvious, it appears I missed a crucial fact: that you don't break the fast until 5pm.
>
> I've been fasting until 3pm, with a cut-off of 8pm. This is just about manageable. I honestly don't think I can last until 5pm, even after training myself, and nor do I want to if I'm being honest.
>
> Does it matter when the five hours fall? I'm sure this has been answered thoroughly elsewhere but I'm having problems answers on the website.
>
> Thanks in advance for any answers.
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[fast5] Re: New member and question

Thanks!

I managed to hold out until 2:52pm today - no lozenges either! I'm well proud of myself.

Hope everyone has a great day!


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, stephanie.dalton12@yahoo.com <stephanie.dalton12@...> wrote:
>
> Slip Up is normal. I have found that my best way to succeed is to drink lots of water with flavoring like mio. Plain water doesn't work but the flavoring makes my body think I got something and it calms the hunger pangs. I don't know if the lozenge is ok
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
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> To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [fast5] New member and question
> Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:31 am
> Hello everyone! I am so excited to be a part of this community. It's weird but I haven't been this excited about a diet in a long time. :)
>
>
>
> Today is my 3rd day and I've had my slip ups (that's normal, right?). Yesterday, my stomach grumbled so much that I snacked on some peanuts at 1:30 even though I was really pushing for a 3pm start. After that snack though, I didn't eat again until 4 (some blueberries) and I had dinner at 7 and snacked a bit more about 8. I know, way beyond the 5 hour mark but if it helps, I really didn't overeat either. Anyway, I'm hoping with each day I get a little better at this.
>
>
>
> This morning I woke up with a sore/scratchy throat and would like to have some sugar free lozenges. Are those ok to have before your start time?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
>
>
> Stacey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Slip Up is normal. I have found that my best way to succeed is to drink lots of water with flavoring like mio. Plain water doesn't work but the flavoring makes my body think I got something and it calms the hunger pangs. I don't know if the lozenge is ok

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Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 7:31 am


 

Hello everyone! I am so excited to be a part of this community. It's weird but I haven't been this excited about a diet in a long time. :)

Today is my 3rd day and I've had my slip ups (that's normal, right?). Yesterday, my stomach grumbled so much that I snacked on some peanuts at 1:30 even though I was really pushing for a 3pm start. After that snack though, I didn't eat again until 4 (some blueberries) and I had dinner at 7 and snacked a bit more about 8. I know, way beyond the 5 hour mark but if it helps, I really didn't overeat either. Anyway, I'm hoping with each day I get a little better at this.

This morning I woke up with a sore/scratchy throat and would like to have some sugar free lozenges. Are those ok to have before your start time?

Thanks for your help!

Stacey



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Hello everyone! I am so excited to be a part of this community. It's weird but I haven't been this excited about a diet in a long time. :)

Today is my 3rd day and I've had my slip ups (that's normal, right?). Yesterday, my stomach grumbled so much that I snacked on some peanuts at 1:30 even though I was really pushing for a 3pm start. After that snack though, I didn't eat again until 4 (some blueberries) and I had dinner at 7 and snacked a bit more about 8. I know, way beyond the 5 hour mark but if it helps, I really didn't overeat either. Anyway, I'm hoping with each day I get a little better at this.

This morning I woke up with a sore/scratchy throat and would like to have some sugar free lozenges. Are those ok to have before your start time?

Thanks for your help!

Stacey





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Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours



I have a hard time keeping my 5 hour window due to working overnights 2 nights a week and then swing 3 nights a week...my biggest fast happens to be from when I go to bed until I get ready for work, about 8-10 hours but then I end up overeating on the 3 days I do my swing because I'm usually asleep when I do my overnights...my boss is trying to kill me!

Siera-Ana


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Subject: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours
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Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 1:08 PM

 

i am one of those that prefers an afternoon window instead of evenng. while i was following fast five i was losing slowly but losing. as soon as i started eating outside the window i started to put weight back on. so i'm back! it doesn't matter that my window is 12 noon to 5pm instead of 5pm to 10pm. i think it's even better because i hate eating that late at night, right before bed.
i always tell people to pick the window that works for you.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, bradbury_x <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Hello everybody, I'm new here.
>
> I learned about the Fast5 diet and after a brief read through of the eBook, decided to give it a go.
>
> Although it's obvious, it appears I missed a crucial fact: that you don't break the fast until 5pm.
>
> I've been fasting until 3pm, with a cut-off of 8pm. This is just about manageable. I honestly don't think I can last until 5pm, even after training myself, and nor do I want to if I'm being honest.
>
> Does it matter when the five hours fall? I'm sure this has been answered thoroughly elsewhere but I'm having problems answers on the website.
>
> Thanks in advance for any answers.
>



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[fast5] Re: Moving the five hours

i am one of those that prefers an afternoon window instead of evenng. while i was following fast five i was losing slowly but losing. as soon as i started eating outside the window i started to put weight back on. so i'm back! it doesn't matter that my window is 12 noon to 5pm instead of 5pm to 10pm. i think it's even better because i hate eating that late at night, right before bed.
i always tell people to pick the window that works for you.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, bradbury_x <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Hello everybody, I'm new here.
>
> I learned about the Fast5 diet and after a brief read through of the eBook, decided to give it a go.
>
> Although it's obvious, it appears I missed a crucial fact: that you don't break the fast until 5pm.
>
> I've been fasting until 3pm, with a cut-off of 8pm. This is just about manageable. I honestly don't think I can last until 5pm, even after training myself, and nor do I want to if I'm being honest.
>
> Does it matter when the five hours fall? I'm sure this has been answered thoroughly elsewhere but I'm having problems answers on the website.
>
> Thanks in advance for any answers.
>




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Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours



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From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:59:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours

 

The hours don't seem to make a difference for people. But the content and/or order of eating does make a difference.


What seems to work the best is to break your fast with either: 

-- A salad (lots of greens, and vinegar in the salad dressing. Vinegar does interesting things in terms of weigh loss and blood sugar control. Or soup for variety.
-- Protein. This satisfies. The best protein sources for this are eggs and fish. Of course boiled or pickled eggs and smoked salmon on a big salad is ideal! The body has a certain need for protein, and if it doesn't get it, it keeps the appetite going.
-- Make sure you get the essential fatty acids.
-- Follow the initial course with your main protein and vegies. Vegies do good stuff for ongoing satiety.
-- Follow that sometime later with starchy stuff (i.e. save dessert for last).

Eating in courses is a nice habit in any case. Enjoying the meal is another good habit. Savor it. Also good is making sure you get enough vitamins ... if you lack those, I think it increases your appetite.

Gorging on lots of starch doesn't work well at all. The body still craves "the other stuff" ... the fibers and protein, and then people get hungrier the next day. Fructose doesn't work for some people either, probably because of inability to process it correctly.




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:55 AM, bradbury_x <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Are there any differences in weight loss depending on when the five hour window falls?

I ask because the book talks about maintaining the fast that happens during sleep, but as far as I can see once you've got used to the five hour window and don't binge then you're simply reducing calories down to around 1000-1500 per day — always good for weight loss no matter what the plan!

For what it's worth I am genuinely interested in the plan for long-term calorie reduction but right now am focusing on losing weight.


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer Lupo" <gremlinpugs@...> wrote:
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> Hi. All that matters is u find a window that works for u and stick to it. The five hours can be anywhere. Some do mornings others afternoon and so on. I do evenings because of my work schedule. So I am 630-1130pm. But I generally don't eat after 8pm anyway. It is too late for me.
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> Subject: [fast5] Moving the five hours
>
> Hello everybody, I'm new here.
>
> I learned about the Fast5 diet and after a brief read through of the eBook, decided to give it a go.
>
> Although it's obvious, it appears I missed a crucial fact: that you don't break the fast until 5pm.
>
> I've been fasting until 3pm, with a cut-off of 8pm. This is just about manageable. I honestly don't think I can last until 5pm, even after training myself, and nor do I want to if I'm being honest.
>
> Does it matter when the five hours fall? I'm sure this has been answered thoroughly elsewhere but I'm having problems answers on the website.
>
> Thanks in advance for any answers.
>



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