Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle: Re: [fast5] Re: new member intro (Ellen)

Saturday, June 6, 2009

Re: [fast5] Re: new member intro (Ellen)

From an immune perspective, wheat protein isolate is the WORST.
My Dad was vegetarian, and when he died he had many of the
classic celiac symptoms. My Mom said "well, but he doesn't eat
bread, so that can't be the problem". But, when I looked at what
he was eating, it was mostly purified wheat gluten-fake-burgers.

Anyway, it's the proteins in grains that cause most of the
issues. Humans just aren't designed to digest parts of these
proteins, and they react badly with our immune system. The
same is true of the lectins in beans, though the lectins can
be disabled by cooking or fermenting. No human has the
right enzymes to digest wheat protein fully though, and
the pieces that are left "look like" bad microbes to the
immune system, which is probably the core of the problem.

So how can a person get a healthy diet eating plant
protein, if we aren't designed to digest it? I suspect
that is a reason that Neolithic people got shorter
and less healthy when they started hunting less.
But I can't figure out a vegan diet that actually
avoids grains and legumes either. Presumably
scientists can create the essential amino acids
from scratch, pre-digested (and they have: you can
get in cans, but it's expensive).

I don't like the whole "factory farming" thing myself, so I get beef
that has been used to "mow the grass" for a few years, and we
raise our own chickens (who mow our grass!). There
is a lot of grass in our neck of the woods, and SOMEONE
has to mow it ... a cow or goat or goose or chicken or elk
is a lot better for the environment than weedkiller or
a riding mower.

Also, from an animal-rights perspective, cutting down
rainforests kills LOTS of animals, and the rainforests
are being cut down right now to plant soybeans. Lots
and lots of soybeans. So I think it's kinder to animals in
general if some people convert to using cows/goats
to keep the fire-hazard low and the grass fertilized,
and leave the rainforests alone. You can live well on
goat milk and goat cheese, and the goat doesn't need
grain at all ... just some shrubbery and milking twice
a day. Your average suburb lot could support a goat,
I think. Just think if people kept goats for pets instead
of dogs! Every kid would have milk, and no one would
have riding mowers!

One thing about Fast-5 though, to stay somewhat
on topic ... people eat LESS and cook more efficiently
on this lifestyle. So from an environmental perspective
it is very excellent.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Paul Katz<paulcats02@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Karen and Ellen
>
> Interesting about the beans. As I posted to you earlier Ellen, the grains
> elimination experimentation is certainly do-able but as far as dropping off
> beans, too, that may be tricky. I guess for protein I could eat Spirulina,
> Chlorella, and or Nutritional Yeast (which I believe are complete proteins)
> by the bucket but I have never used them as mainstays of my diet but as
> supplements in smaller amounts.
>
> Regarding the elimination diet, I've always wanted to do it (or at least
> told myself that) but it takes a lot of discipline which I haven't had
> enough available so I never got around to it... excuses excuses, perhaps the
> time is now?
>
> I have another question regarding the plant-based protein powders I partake
> of, are they still considered grain or bean even if they are just the
> protein component?
>
> Because I eat plenty of protein powders such as Wheat Protein Isolate, Soy
> Protein Powder, Pea Protein Isloate, Hempseed Protein, Flaxseed Meal, Rice
> Protein Concentrate, and Buckwheat Protein. There is also a new plant-based
> protein source on the horizon I heard about, Cranberry Protein powder made
> from Cranberry Seeds that sounds good.
>
> Ideally, I would not use that much of the above powders and meat "analogs"
> (veggie burgers, etc.) because they are definitely processed and not whole
> foods per se but I find it difficult to get protein otherwise (beans &
> grains have more carbs than protein, nuts & seeds have more than protein but
> with more fat; actually i bel;ieve all foods even fruits & veggies have some
> protein in them maybe not a whole lot though). The question may be how many
> buckets of unprocessed plant-based foods would one have to eat to get the
> protein they need?
>
> Anyhow thank you to Karen for replying to Ellen, and to Ellen for replying
> back; you have given me much food for thought!
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>