Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle: Re: [fast5] Re: new member intro....going off grains

Saturday, June 6, 2009

Re: [fast5] Re: new member intro....going off grains

How long did you try it for? If you go off grains there is a definite
"withdrawal period" for some people ... it took me 2-3 months to get my sanity
back. I didn't even stop eating ALL grains, just wheat/barley/rye.
But my brain just stopped functioning, which convinced me that
those grains, at least for some people, have a druglike effect.

Which shouldn't be too surprising because they do affect the blood/brain
barrier (and MRI scans of kids that have gluten issues show
brain changes after the kids eat gluten). Also during this
period I started getting inflamed joints, to the point I could
barely walk. This appears to happen to a fair number of people
... one research person surmised it's because the cortisol gets
down-regulated when the body isn't fighting "the enemy"
so much.

In that sort of situation, I don't actually have any answers.
Everyone I've heard talk about it just got through it
eventually and then felt a whole lot better than when
they started out.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM, claudiamb13<no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Hi Ellen
> i'm trying to get off grains myself and was wondering how you dealt with lack of energy? I tried 2 years ago and found that i was a total ZOMBIE...did you just up your fruit intake to counteract?
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> Claudia
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Ellen Ussery <ellen.ussery@...> wrote:
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>> HI
>> Pain, inflammation and arthritis do NOT "just come with age".
>>
>> When I was close to your age I too had these problems. I was also vegan. I
>> was also very tired all the time -- exhausted actually. So I tried going
>> off all grains to try to get my energy back. After three weeks the first
>> thing I noticed was that the arthritis was GONE!. I suggested my husband
>> try it too and sure enough his arthritis went away. That was about 12 years
>> ago. Every once in a while we have tried eating grains again... we found we
>> each had our own threshhold, above which we got the arthritis again.
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>> If you want to try this you would, of course have to give up being a vegan
>> for the duration of the experiment.
>>
>> I am 66 years old. I have tried every diet there is in order to deal with
>> health issue. I have found that you have to be open to try anything and
>> just see what works for you.
>>
>> By the way, I too tried many supplements to deal with my pain. They didn't
>> work for me.
>>
>> Ellen
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Paul Katz <paulcats02@...> wrote:
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>> >
>> > hello all, i am paul. i am a 46 yo vegan (i know Rita and Luz had posted a
>> > while ago back, if there were any vegans doing fast 5).
>> >
>> > quick back story on me is 12 years ago i was 70-80 pounds heavier than i am
>> > now (i was about 225 lbs, i only stand 5' 7.5"). i was a full fledged
>> > overeater, couch potato, smoker, stoner, boozer and more. there came a point
>> > where i decided i had enough of where and who i was (having been overweight
>> > since my childhood plus my brain hurt from always being under the
>> > influence); i gave up drinking & drugs, started exercising, and eating more
>> > mindfully... through activities such as yoga, meditation, martial arts,
>> > walking, running and weights, the pounds literally melted off & have stayed
>> > off for the past decade and i rediscovered myself along the way.
>> >
>> > anyway, new challenges have entered my life over the past 2-3 years: they
>> > are arthritis, pain & inflammation as well as cholesterol and prostate
>> > problems; guess they come with the turf of my age group and/or perhaps
>> > genetic predisposition... i can live with that, what would life be without
>> > occasions to rise to?
>> >
>> > regarding fast 5, i am on my 3rd month. for the most part, i follow the
>> > lifestyle 6 days a week (mon-sat per i work tues-sat) then break for a day
>> > (sunday). so far my weight has gone from 154 16%BF to 146.5 14%BF; i'm not
>> > as much concerned with the my overall weight but it;s been a dream to get my
>> > BF to single digits (even if that means 9.9%). The main reason i am fast
>> > 5'ing, in addition to getting & staying lean, the health benefits, and
>> > optimizing energy levels is because i find that the arthritis, pain &
>> > inflammation that challenge me is greatly reduced when i don't eat; of
>> > course this is a catch 22 because i can't stop eating *completely*...
>> >
>> > this brings me to a question regarding supplements: i'm going to guess that
>> > taking supplements that have minimal caloric value i.e. 5 calories or less
>> > would be fine to take during the fasting period? [image: :-/]
>> >
>> > if so, i am interested in taking systemic enzymes and or SAM-e again (i
>> > have used them in the past, always on an empty stomach that's how they work
>> > best supposedly) to kill the pain and inflammation. also i am interested in
>> > taking beta sito sterol for lowering cholesterol and for the prostate (it is
>> > also recommended to be taken away from food, too). any advice on this would
>> > be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > last, but not least, i'd be glad to answer any questions on what i do for
>> > meals, snacks, proteins, the supplements i take (i take a bunch including
>> > b12, b complex, coq, multi, glucosamine & msm, and saw palmetto & pygeum
>> > bark), and anything else regarding my 20+ years experience as a vegan,
>> > etc...
>> >
>> > paul
>> >
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