Sunday, July 12, 2009

[fast5] Re: Need to Clarify...

Great post, Heather, you bring up some excellent points.

agree to disagree, that's a good thing.

The challenge for either a vegetarian (whether for ethical or health reasons) or an omnivore who eats a mostly plant-based diet, especially one following fast 5 or any other caloric reduction appears to be how to get enough nutrition i.e protein, fats, and fiber not to mention vitamins minerals enzymes and other micronutrient stuff.

I know there are small amounts of protein in all fruits & veggies as well as varying amounts of fiber, the you have fats in fruits like avocado, olives & durian, then of course grains & beans will have protein & fiber while nuts & seeds have fats & protein plus you can eat spirulina or other algaes... but you'd have to eat a whole lot of volume, wouldn't you?

And how much can one eat in 5 hours?

As an early post said 1 big meal and a snack or two, maybe 2 moderate meals, or just graze on and off?

Personally i'd like to eat as natural and unprocessed as possible but can we get the "optimum nutrition" from eating buckets of fruits & veggies, beans, greens & whole grains?

that's why i still eat the powders and analogs...

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, we are all into everyone doing what works for them.
>
> Personally I'm also into "what works in the lab" ... some things are
> not just personal opinion, there is good science to back them up. This
> is one reason I really respect Dr. Bert. This diet, Fast-5, is not
> something he made up to make a buck. It's well-researched and he
> packaged it to make it easier to understand and follow for more
> people.
>
> So if someone here gets up and says: "I don't like eating food that is
> colored purple" ... hey, I totally respect that, it's a personal
> choice. Personally I can't stand food with certain textures, such as
> pancakes or French toast. No real reason: my brain just doesn't like
> them.
>
> If someone gets up and says "Purple foods cause cancer" though, it's
> likely to provoke a debate, because *that* is something that can be
> argued based on lab results.
>
> Vegetarianism, in web groups in general, falls somewhere between those
> two. For some people it's an aesthetic or emotional thing: they don't
> like the idea of eating what was once alive. For others, it is
> scientific: they are convinced that meat causes, say, cancer.
>
> For me personally, it's somewhere between the two. I'm convinced that
> farming is one of the big things killing lots and lots and lots of
> animals (turning rainforest into soy farms is a biggie right now:
> feeding soy to humans is bad. Feeding soy to cows is worse). And I'm
> also pretty sure that our way of raising beef right now produces a
> very unhealthy kind of beef. However, people are extrapolating from
> that, that ALL beef and ALL animal products are unhealthy. This is,
> overall, producing more and more soy production to create fake-meat
> products, because humans really can't live long on plain fruits and
> vegies, though it's a great way to lose weight. If you want to find
> the ideal diet for human beings, you need to look at the whole of
> human history, paleantology, anthropology, and even old cookbooks.
> Don't look to modern humans: our food system is seriously weird from
> an historical perspective.
>
> Anyway, I don't think anyone is offended. Some of us here are from a
> group that routinely argues these things and you can expect an
> argument (complete with references!), but it should be a good-natured
> argument. Dialog is a great thing, and it didn't go away with
> Aristotle.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM, craztrader<craztrader@...> wrote:
> > I just want to say that the things im saying on here about meat and cooking food and all are just my personal beliefs and I dont mean to offend anyone and I hope I havent. Everyone has their personal beliefs and by saying what Ive said doesnt mean that thats the way it is and everyone else is wrong, lol! I completely respect everyones beliefs and thoughts. I just read back thru my posts and it just kinda looks like Im giving that impression. I just truly feel that our bodies are not designed to digest meat and that meat is the culprit for many diseases
> > such as cancer and diebetis etc. But once again thats just me.
> > Rob
> >
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> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>


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