yes, you could not get all the nutrients.
i suppose one could be vegan and not eat grains. The combination of grains and legumes provides the complete array of amino acids found in animal protein. So if you didn't eat grains and only ate beans you wouldn't be getting complete protein.
Actually we cut out legumes the same time we cut out grains. Should have said that before.
thing is, there are lots of problems with both grains and beans. They have lectins that are problematic, as well as enzyme inhibitors, Then of course there is the gluten in wheat, rye, barley, kamut and spelt . There are so many different things one could be reacting to, and there aren't really too many reliable tests. Many people will test negative for celiac and still have problems eating gluten containing foods.
So the best thing to do is do your own elimination diet.
The other thing about grains and legumes is that they raise your blood sugar even if they are whole grain. And a large percentage of the population really cannot handle the sugar. Even if their fasting blood sugar is "normal" ( below 100), they can have high post meal blood sugars and /or high insulin levels for years. These things do a lot of damage. Cause diabetic complications before they are technically diabetic. You can read about it on www. bloodsugar10l
I eat animal protein of all kinds, animal fats , some nuts and seeds and a tiny bit of not very sweet fruit like berries. This is because I have found that all along i have also had a problem with blood sugar, unrecognized because I always had normal fasting blood sugar tests. Too bad it took till I was 66 to find out. I wish I had known how informative it could be to test your own blood sugar before and after meals for a few days. Out of whck blood sugars contribute to almost every illness there is, heart disease is a major one, mood and energy swings, even things like tendon problems and erectile dysfunction.
Getting those blood sugars under control helps enormously with out of control hunger. Adding that to Fast-5 has been amazing to me. I was always hungry all the time. Fast-5 changed that but I would still have a hard time for the last couple of hours before my window. It is very different for me on this very low carb regimen.
Ellen
Your reply interests me…
Why would you have to stop being vegan to stop eating grains?
Is it because you cannot get all the nutrients in the 'other' food options?
I'd be interesting in hearing what you DO eat.
I have been challenging myself to go grain-free (allowing oats and brown rice).
I started eating cookies made by my DD two days ago and I can already feel my wrists and hands getting tight, so I know it is the wheat (at least).
From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Ussery
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…So I tried going off all grains to try to get my energy back.
If you want to try this you would, of course have to give up being a vegan for the duration of the experiment.
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