Thursday, March 17, 2011

[fast5] Re: Hello! New Here - Question..(The Beans Trick).

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "aeryelle" <aeryelle@...> wrote:
>
> I guess I just don't understand how people continue to insist that "all you need is a deficit", when so many are struggling to lose weight and not succeeding (and not "cheating"). Frustrating!
> I also love being active, but I know (I've known) that it doesn't induce weight loss in me. I doubt it affects weight maintenance either. I was gaining weight, even as I upped my activity level; however, I was able to easily maintain my weight a 2-3 day/week activity schedule, eating generally what I wanted (including alcohol) but while intermittently fasting.
> I've been a member of my gym for over 2 years, and I've seen the same countless people sweating away on the machines/ in classes and at exactly the same weight/size (granted, I don't know how much they're eating, but I'll wager many of them are trying to "diet" in addition).
>
>
> I've actually been meaning to pick up Taubes' book. Maybe I'll do that tonight!
>


Insulin is what Taubes, Groves, Eades all boil down to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akz9B-zMS-4

Fasting lowers Insulin.

Low Carbs lower Insulin.

If you eat Grain, it's like tying your hands behind your back as far as Insulin creation.

Same with avoiding good protein sources like eggs.

How can a "veggie" mindset disallow that very good Protein food?

Many like Taubes will tell you Exercise is "spinning your wheels".

http://www.garytaubes.com/blog/

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/low-carb_index.html

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/about/

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/fat/

Barnaby


> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "RickS" <rstewart@> wrote:
> >
> > Aeryelle-
> >
> > I agree that there's much more to it than calories in/calories out. In fact, lately I've been putting it to the test by eating nothing but foods with zero carbs, I mean THOUSANDS of calories worth every day for nearly three months! My weight has stayed right at 170 on a diet of pork rinds, beef, chicken, sausage, bacon, and eggs. This diet agrees with me and it keeps my blood sugar and insulin levels right where they belong. People ask what I do to stay thin and I tell them to just cut out the starchy carbs. But they insist that it's got to be exercise that does it as I commute by bike 30 miles a day. It's really not. I rode the subway for two weeks this winter during the snow we had and I actually LOST a couple of pounds on the same diet.
> >
> > Case in point, alcohol has 7 calories per gram. Alcohol is not metabolized by the standard insulin response mechanism. It's processed by the liver directly and turned into acetate which is burned by the body as fuel. All standard metabolism of fats and carbs comes to a halt in the presence of alcohol until the alcohol has been processed and burned or stored. Once the alcohol has been converted and burned or stored, your body goes back to burning carbs or fat. Now when you drink, your body fills muscle glycogen supplies and liver glucose reserves with the stuff it's converted the alcohol into. Once fat/carb metabolism starts back up, your liver and muscles could be topped up from the alcohol and guess where all of the triglycerides/sugars remaining in your blood stream go? Right, storage on your butt.
> >
> > I'm rambling...
> >
> > My point is that the body is so complex, it's just not realistic to imagine that it's as simple as calories in/calories out. There's a huge endocrine response to different foods that determines what your body does with the calories. How you react to stress plays a big part in how you process food as well. I just finished Gary Taubes' "Why we Get Fat". It explains all of this in detail.
> >
> > Anyway, welcome to the group!
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "aeryelle" <aeryelle@> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > I know via experience that it simply can't be as cut and dry as "calories in vs. calories out", but you know so many insist that's it's as simple as that (oh, and you should eat 6x per day).
> > > It's so frustrating to hear or read: "just need to burn more than you consume", and if you're not losing weight you must be cheating or not exercising as much as you claim. I've literally had people tell me, "If I ate the way you do & exercised, I'd be a stick." Hmph!
> > >
> > > Thanks again for the responses. I'm really enjoying the daily fasting!
> > >


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