Fast-5 Diet and Lifestyle: Re: [fast5] Re: seeking guidance for Fast-5 beyond 3 weeks...

Thanks for the response! I'm not a full veggie, more so pescatarian which means I eat fish, mostly because I could never give up sushi! But I will try with sticking to protein and high fat low carb and see how it goes!

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From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:12:23 -0800

To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: seeking guidance for Fast-5 beyond 3 weeks...

Being a vegetarian might be an issue ... protein, esp. whole protein, is one of the "satiators" for human beings. Vegies are great things, and they fill one up, but they don't stick around. Vegies and fruits are mostly low fat too. Few of the vegie fats are really "good" fats: coconut oil is probably the best though.

If you have ethical considerations about eating meat, you might consider fish and/or eggs. The healthiest people s on earth tend to be fish and egg eaters (like the Japanese) and they can be very satisfying, esp. the fatty fish. The problem with a pure vegetarian diet is that the protein foods are mainly from soy and wheat gluten, both of which are kind of iffy from a nutrition point of view.

Beyond that, a lot of your struggle appears to be psychological: "feeling confined". Part of the answer to that is to realize that for the time you don't eat, you are also *free from* the need to find food, cook it, clean up. You get time back. And you are free to eat what you want in your time window.

Another answer is to find the foods that your body really *wants*. Find the things that you regard as special ... not special as in "a piece of cake" (which is really indulging a craving for sweets), but something savory that you really enjoy. For me that is often a nice soup or smoked salmon, or a big bowl of prickly pears.

And do make sure the meal has enough protein and fat. Combining Fast-5 with conscious calorie-restriction hasn't worked very well for many people. Eating salad/protein etc. in a course before the starch course works better to avoid over-indulging. Having some vinegar on the salad helps a lot too (or hot lemon tea), and I've found konjac to work well too. For starches, I think it helps your appestat if the starches are not finely-ground (i.e. steamed rice, not pastries) and sometimes if they are whole (like quinoa or millet: some whole grains are irritating though). Wheat gluten is kind of weird when it comes to the gut and appestat and is worth avoiding IMO.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:32 AM, <jenaebordato@yahoo.com> wrote:

So eating low carb has helped you stay satisfied throughout the 19 hour period? That's my main struggle right now, I'm starving the next day and its been 5 weeks. But I'm recently a new vegetarian so I find myself eating carbs all through my 5 hour window. What should I be eating?
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From: "Karen" <laurvick@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:14:25 -0700
To: <fast5@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [fast5] Re: seeking guidance for Fast-5 beyond 3 weeks...

Linda

I wish I could be an encouragement to you.

I am not on a calorie limiting diet at the moment.

In fact, eating high fat, I'm probably consuming 1700-1800 cals/day.

Now, I'm real close to my maintenance weight.

My main goal now is to control blood sugar.

But to not be hungry all day or gorge during my eating window is also very
important to me.

I am getting leaner all the time.

I'm talking, 70-80% of my calories are coming from good fat sources: egg
yolks, coconut oil, avocados, butter, heavy cream....

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From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Linda
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:21 AM
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fast5] Re: seeking guidance for Fast-5 beyond 3 weeks...

I don't have a problem with resentment of the "restriction," but I will say
that after 3 weeks I stopped losing weight. I'm still on the FF program,
but am on a severe plateau, despite limiting intake to 1400 calories per
day, always within my time window. I'm going to give it 2 more weeks, but
I'm losing faith.

Linda

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, de Vie <realdevie@...> wrote:
>
> Hello y'all
>
> This question is in particular for those who have done Fast-5 for over a
> month, although all truly helpful guidance is certainly appreciated.
>
> This is my third (well, technically fourth, but the first time was years
ago
> and I don't remember how long I tried it for) attempt at Fast-5 - it's
gone
> like this:
> ... started about 7 weeks ago, did Fast-5 for 3 weeks, and then at three
> weeks went off of it for a few days, then resumed Fast-5, did it again for
3
> weeks, and then again went off of it for a few days, and am now resuming
> Fast-5...
>
> ... One of the main reasons I stopped Fast-5 both times was that I felt
like
> I was 'over-compensating' too much in my eating during the window, in
> anticipation of the fasting-time.
> ... Another reason I ended it, at least this last time (I don't know if it
> was part of the reason for the first quit) was needing to rebel against a
> feeling of "restriction" and wanting to reject the negative belief that I
> can't just 'eat in alignment with my highest good' without some certain
food
> structure such as this...
>
> Anyway, here I am trying it again, because I do feel if I can do Fast-5
> effectively that there are many great benefits to it, some of which I was
> already experiencing, despite feeling like I was 'over-compensating' in
the
> eating-window.
>
> ... So I am seeking guidance in terms of... how to do Fast-5 effectively
> without (a) feeling like I'm restricting (which seems like setting myself
up
> for a rebel-reaction), (b) over-compensating in the eating, and (c)
quitting
> after three weeks! From the book it did seem like there is something
> particular about three-or-so weeks, and I feel like perhaps I have to
> somehow get over that hump......
>
> Your guidance is appreciated!
>
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